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3 Dec 2014 00:00 |
Order English and Welsh certificates from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ They will cost you £9.25 each inc world wide P&P. All credit and debit cards accepted.
You will have to register for free, then you are able to apply for the certs. Use the info from the index, and nothing more. When it says 'Is the gro reference number known' tick the Yes box
Name: Norah J Cottle Spouse Surname: Camden Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919 Registration district: Worcester Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume Number: 6c Page Number: 375
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Helen
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2 Dec 2014 23:24 |
Hi thanks for getting back to me you'll have to excuse me I'm quite new to this how do I order the marriage certificate? If she did knock a few years of her age then that runs in the family my Mother is always trying the same trick! My uncle has used the site in the past and has a paper copy of a family tree my Nan started before she passed away. I've contacted him and I'm waiting for him to get back to me. I only know her middle initial is J. My Mum's name is Jane and her sister is Julie so I did wonder if one of them had been named after her. I'm going in to hospital tomorrow so please don't think I'm ignoring you if you don't hear back from me for the next few days. Hopefully my Uncle will be able to help out with the middle name.
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rootgatherer
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2 Dec 2014 23:05 |
Thanks for coming back Helen.
The details you have given above for the marriage is actually the information from the GRO marriage index. You really need to order the marriage certificate to find the name and occupation of her father that she gave when she married.
Index ref. for her death
Name: Norah J Camden Birth Date: abt 1898 Date of Registration: Jun 1945 Age at Death: 47 Registration district: Worcester Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 135
Remember that the information regarding age on a death certificate is only as good as the informant's knowledge. If Norah was a wee bit older than her husband she may well have knocked a couple of years off her age for the sake of appearances.
As far as the Irish connection is concerned, I did check the Irish indexes for a birth but didn't see one. I would agree though that Norah is a more common given name in Ireland. Perhaps she was named for a Grandmother or Great Grandmother as, if we have the correct Norah neither of her parents seem to be born in Ireland.
Do you know what your Norah's middle name was please?
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Helen
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2 Dec 2014 21:01 |
Norah Cottle died in 1945 I believe she was killed in a road accident. The records show she was born in 1898.
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Helen
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2 Dec 2014 20:51 |
Hi all sorry I'm new to the site had a very Helpful message from Cynthia and now know how to check for replies. Thanks again Cynthia. NORAH J
Last Name COTTLE Gender Female Year 1919 Spouse CAMDEN Image Quarter 4 Country England County Worcestershire District WORCESTER District Number Registry Number Volume 6C Page 375 Line Number 64 This is the info off the marriage certificate. Her name was definitely Norah as I know this from my late Nan. After speaking to my Mum last night she thinks there my be an Irish connections with Norah Cottle.
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Cynthia
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1 Dec 2014 13:09 |
Hello Helen and welcome to the Community boards.
(This was Helen's first post - I'll let her know how to find her replies... ) :-)
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rootgatherer
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1 Dec 2014 09:27 |
Pity Helen didn't stay online for a wee bit. I just hope that is the correct family after all your work ladies :-)
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1 Dec 2014 00:46 |
1881..Still living with parents...
Name: Bessie J Ridd Age (Original): 19 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1862 Birthplace: Challacombe, Devon, England Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Marital Status: Single Address: Dairy 7 Russell Place Event Place: Ss James And Paul (United Out), Gloucestershire, England Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 2485 / 54 Page Number: 18
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1 Dec 2014 00:43 |
Name: Bessie Julia Ridd Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 9 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Challacombe, Devonshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Barnstaple Sub-District: Parracombe Parish: Challacombe County: Devonshire
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1 Dec 2014 00:42 |
1871 Census....
Richard Ridd Self M 43 Challacombe, Devonshire Julia Ridd Wife F 46 East Down, Devonshire William Henry Ridd Son M 18 Challacombe, Devonshire Mary Grace Ridd Daughter F 17 Challacombe, Devonshire John Charles Ridd Son M 11 Challacombe, Devonshire Bessie Julia Ridd Daughter F 9 Challacombe, Devonshire
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MargaretM
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1 Dec 2014 00:39 |
So she married Henry Tanzell and the girls now have Henry's surname and Laura J. is going by her second name Julie. Percival must also be the son of George & Bessie.
1911 England Census about Bessie Tanzell Name: Bessie Tanzell Age in 1911: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Challacombe, Devon Civil Parish: Bristol County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: 13 Walpole St, Bristol Marital Status: Married Years Married: 2 Estimated Marriage Year: 1909 Registration district: Bristol Registration District Number: 319 Sub-registration district: St Philip and St Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 263 Piece: 15002 Household Members: Name Age Henry Tanzell 63 Bessie Tanzell 49 Julia Tanzell 17 Amy Tanzell 16 Percival Tanzell 5
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MargaretM
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1 Dec 2014 00:30 |
Remarriage of Bessie?
Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COTTLE Bessie Julia Bristol 6a 426 DOWSING Frederick Bristol 6a 426 GOLDING Ellen Bristol 6a 426 TANZELL Henry Bristol 6a 426
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MargaretM
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1 Dec 2014 00:27 |
Possible death of George?
Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COTTLE George Joseph 41 Bristol 6a 58
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MargaretM
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1 Dec 2014 00:21 |
1891 England Census about George Colston Cottle Name: George Colston Cottle Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Julia Cottle Mother's name: Elizabeth Cottle Gender: Male Where born: Bristol Civil Parish: St Philip and St Jacob Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Barton Regis Sub registration district: St Philip ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1980 Folio: 57 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age George Colston Cottle 23 Julia Cottle 25 Elizabeth Cottle 63 Arthur Cottle 11 Mera E Cottle 1
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PricklyHolly
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1 Dec 2014 00:20 |
7 children born to the Camden/Cottle marriage.
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MargaretM
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1 Dec 2014 00:14 |
Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COTTLE George Joseph C Bristol 6a 2a RIDD Bessie Julia Bristol 6a 2a
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Eringobragh1916
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1 Dec 2014 00:11 |
Name: Sidney George Cottle Gender: Male Christening Date: 19 Jan 1897 Christening Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Birth Date: 27 Jun 1896 Father's Name: George Jpseph Cottle Mother's Name: Bessie Julia
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MargaretM
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1 Dec 2014 00:01 |
Could the enumerator have mis-heard her name as Laura instead of Norah?
1901 England Census about Laura J Cottle Name: Laura J Cottle Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: George J Cottle Mother: Bessie J Cottle Birth Place: Bristol Civil Parish: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: Easton St Mark County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 09 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2388 Folio: 160 Page Number: 30 Household schedule number: 179 Household Members: Name Age George J Cottle 35 Bessie J Cottle 38 Myra G Cottle 11 Henry A Cottle 10 Laura J Cottle 8 Amy C Cottle 7
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Eringobragh1916
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30 Nov 2014 23:32 |
Baptism and Marriage of parents.... Norah Julia Cottle
George Joseph Colston Cottle England Births and Christenings Name: George Joseph Colston Cottle Gender: Male Christening Date: 12 May 1867 Christening Place: St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England Birth Date: 10 Mar 1867 Father's Name: George Cottle Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02085-8 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1596780 , Reference ID: item 2 p 32
George Joseph Colston Cottle
mentioned in the record of George Joseph Colston Cottle and Bessie Julia Ridd Name: George Joseph Colston Cottle Birth Date: 1864 Age: 23 Spouse's Name: Bessie Julia Ridd Spouse's Birth Date: 1862 Spouse's Age: 25 Event Date: 22 Aug 1887 Event Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England Father's Name: George Cottle Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Ridd
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M17278-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1596484 , Reference ID: p14 cn28
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rootgatherer
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30 Nov 2014 23:11 |
I wonder if she was a little older than she let on?
Name: Norah Julia Cottle Baptism Date: 10 Jul 1894 Baptism Place: Bristol, St Simon, Gloucestershire, England Father: George Joseph Colston Cottle Mother: Bessie Julia Cottle FHL Film Number: 4242595
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