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Hi Eugenie
Frank North Wallace got his middle name from his mother's maiden name North - Emma North married Henry Townsend Carter 1866 they had 3 children, Mary Townsend Carter - Henry Arthur Carter - Ernest G Carter. Emma's husband died 1871 and she remarried Thomas Wallace 12/6/1874 St Luke's they went on to have 4 children Effie,Frank,Lillian, Claude. In one of the census, I think it was 1880 it list her children from her first marriage but Thomas Wallace has entered them with his surname and not Carter.
Hope this helps,
Susan

Westminster Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) HENRY TOWNSEND
Last name CARTER (Bachelor occ.Tailor)
Marriage year 1866
Marriage day 08
Marriage month Aug
Parish St Peter, Eaton Square, Pimlico
Spouse's first name(s) EMMA
Spouse's last name NORTH (Spinster)
Groom's age Full
Bride's age Full
County Middlesex
Record set Westminster Marriages
(Fathers, Elias Carter occ. Tailor. James North occ. Builder. Residence at Time (him) Westbourne Street (her) Hark Lane. Wits. J. Carter, Mary Ann North)



Deaths Jun 1871 (>99%)
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Carter Henry Townsend 27 St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 238


All England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858 - 1966 (Ancestry)

Henry Townsend Carter (Probate Year) 1875 (Death Date) 29 Jun 1871 Middlesex, England
(late of 39 Westbourne Street Pimlico, was Proved by Emma Wallace (wife of Thomas William Wallace) (formerly Carter, Widow) of 47 Flood Street Kings Road Chelsea Sole Executrix. Effects under £200)

Chris :)

Henry is Henery A Carter in 1871 not Henry F?

Name: Henry A Carter
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry T Carter
Mother's name: Emma Carter
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 115
Folio: 69
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry T Carter 27
Emma Carter 26
Mary T Carter 3
Henry A Carter 2
Ernest G Carter 3 Months

Above marriage correct?


Name: Willie Wallace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 23
Spouse: Alice Kirton
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Apr 1898
Parish: Holy Trinity
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Thomas William Wallace <<<<<<
Spouse Father: Alfred Henry Kirton
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Alice Kitty Wallace
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Apr 1899
Father's Name: Willie Wallace
Mother's name: Alice Wallace
Parish or Poor Law Union: Deptford St Paul
Borough: Lewisham
Register Type: Parish Registers



Maybe?

Name: Willie Wallace
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 613
Records on Page:
Name
Alice Kirton
Willie Wallace

1901

Name: William Wallace
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Kitty Wallace
Birth Place: Chelsea
Civil Parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 523
Folio: 78
Page Number: 51
Household schedule number: 322
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wallace 26
Kitty Wallace 22
Kitty Wallace 2

1911

Name: William Wallace
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Chelsea, London, England
Civil Parish: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 41 Lovelace Gardens, Southend On Sea, Essex
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Clothier Employer
Registration district: Rochford
Registration District Number: 195
Sub-registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 10146
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wallace 36
Alice Wallace 32
Alice Ritty Wallace 12
William Alfred Wallace 9
Cecil Henry Wallace 5
Constance Nellie Wallace 4
Dorothy Wallace 1
Mary Ann Wheelcup 20

Married 12 years, 5 children born, 5 living

This looks like Lilian in 1911

Name: Lilian M Wallace
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 468 Merton Road, Wandsworth S W
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: MOTHERS HELP DOMESTIC
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: Southfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 2409
Household Members:
Name Age
George Townsend Carter 53
Mary Anne Carter 50
Sidney George Carter 25
Stanley Townsend Carter 23
Frank Codagern Carter 18
Edward F T Carter 14
Lilian M Wallace 28

Looks like she never married. DOB matches that given on her baptism record


Name: Lilian Mabel Wallace
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1882
Date of Registration: Mar 1973
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Sutton
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5e
Page: 772

???????????????

Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%)

CARTER Henry T St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 645
North Emma St Geo Han Sq 1a 645




I think this marriage for a Thomas Wallace and an Emma is incorrect ................



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emma North

Name: Emma North
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Age: 22
Spouse: Thomas Howell
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Nov 1867
Parish: Holy Trinity, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Thomas North
Spouse Father: Joseph Howell
Register Type: Parish Register


On the image, this Thomas Wallace is a FIREMAN

very possible!!!



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Thomas William Wallace

Name: Thomas William Wallace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Age: 31
Spouse: Emma Carter
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Jul 1874
Parish: St Luke, Chelsea
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: William Wallace
Spouse Father: James North
Register Type: Parish Register


from image:-

Thomas
Bachelor
Occupation:- Tailor
Address:- 18 Christ Church Street
Father occupation:- Coachman

Emma
Widow
no occupation shown
Address:- 47 Flood Street
Father occupation:- Builder (deceased)

Witnesses:- George North and Elizabeth Brook

is it at all possible that Henry F and Mary were actually Emma's children before she married Thomas William?

?????????????????


are your dates correct????


1881 Census

Name Age
Thomas W. Wallace 39
Emma Wallace 36
Mary Wallace 13 b.ca 1868, Pimlico, Middlesex
Henry F. Wallace 12 b.ca 1869, Pimlico
Willie Wallace 6 b.ca 1875, Chelsea, Middlesx
Effie Wallace 3
Frank Wallace 1
Annie Burns 18



Thomas William and Emma married in 1874 ................

Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
Carter Emma Chelsea 1a 508
Wallace Thomas William Chelsea 1a



BUT Mary and Henry F were born in 1868 and 1869 respectively, so Thomas must have been married before

????


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Effie Emma Wallace

Name: Effie Emma Wallace
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 7 Oct 1877
Father's Name: Thomas William Wallace
Mother's name: Emma Wallace
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 26 Aug 1877
Address:- 42 Smith Street
Father occupation:- Foreman Cutter



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Lilian Mabel Wallace

Name: Lilian Mabel Wallace
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1882
Father's Name: Thomas William Wallace
Mother's name: Emma Wallace
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 23 July 1882
Address:- 42 Smith St
Father occupation:- Cutter



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Claude Edgar Wallace

Name: Claude Edgar Wallace
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Feb 1885
Father's Name: Thomas William Wallace
Mother's name: Emma Wallace
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 25 Jan 1885
Address:- 482 Kings Road
Father occupation:- Tailor




The following is NOT yours ................

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Louisa Wallace

Name: Louisa Wallace
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Jun 1890
Father's Name: Thomas Wallace
Mother's name: Emma Wallace
Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Watney Street
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father's occupation is Printer

Hi,Having digested all the helpful info on Frank North Wallace I am hoping somebody may be able to find information about the remaining siblings I have so far been unable to find anything out about.

Henry F Wallace born aprx 1872
Mary Wallace born aprx 1873
Willie Wallace born aprx 1875
Lilian M Wallace born aprx 1884.
Many thanks to anyone that has the time or ability to look up for me.

Burial Register summary
Wallace
Florence Beatrice
Burial date 01 November 1938
Authority London Borough of Camden
Location St Pancras Cemetery (Camden)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(from above)

Chris :)

For births marriages and deaths 1837-c1960 you can use

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Both of these sites offer a 14 day free trial if you want to try them yourself.

If you need Scottish records then

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For parish records pre 1837 you can try

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which is also free to use.

You can always ask on here. People only to willing to do lookups for you.



Andy

Andrew, Alviegal & Potty thank you all so much for all the information. I was so wrong about his death in 1916 AND his wife, let alone THREE of them!
So weird, all the areas, North London, Hoxton,Essex...all so close to home.

Can I ask what sites you use and recommend for your info, just that there are so many and it works out so expensive to subscribe to all.

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Frank N Wallace


Name:Frank N Wallace (with Ada S Wallace)
Year:1952
County or Borough:Hendon
Ward or Division/Constituency:South Division
Street address:18 Edgeworth Avenue
Reference Number:
MR/PER/C/0876


Here 1947-1957

Andy

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Florence Beatrice Wallace

Name:Florence Beatrice Wallace (with Frank North Wallace)
Year:1918
County or Borough:Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency:St Pancras
Street address:
15 Chalk Farm Road


At this address until at least 1938.

Andy

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Edward Morrish
Name: Edward Morrish
[Edwin Morrish]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 27
Spouse: Eliza Sedgwick, widow
Spouse Age: 38
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Jul 1890
Parish: St John, Hoxton
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Edward Morrish, house decorator
Spouse Father: Henry Pearn Sedgwick (Henry Pearce Cooper), house decorator
Register Type: Parish Register


Her first marriage.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Eliza Cooper
Name: Eliza Cooper
Spouse: Alfred Stephen Sedgwick
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Dec 1870
Parish: Christ Church, Hoxton
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Henry Pearce Cooper, paper hanger
Spouse Father: David Sedgwick, sawyer
Register Type: Parish Register