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4 Nov 2014 08:37 |
Burial Register summary Wallace Florence Beatrice Burial date 01 November 1938 Authority London Borough of Camden Location St Pancras Cemetery (Camden)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
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5 Nov 2014 00:08 |
Hi,Having digested all the helpful info on Frank North Wallace I am hoping somebody may be able to find information about the remaining siblings I have so far been unable to find anything out about.
Henry F Wallace born aprx 1872 Mary Wallace born aprx 1873 Willie Wallace born aprx 1875 Lilian M Wallace born aprx 1884. Many thanks to anyone that has the time or ability to look up for me.
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5 Nov 2014 05:34 |
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Effie Emma Wallace
Name: Effie Emma Wallace Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 7 Oct 1877 Father's Name: Thomas William Wallace Mother's name: Emma Wallace Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 26 Aug 1877 Address:- 42 Smith Street Father occupation:- Foreman Cutter
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Lilian Mabel Wallace
Name: Lilian Mabel Wallace Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1882 Father's Name: Thomas William Wallace Mother's name: Emma Wallace Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 23 July 1882 Address:- 42 Smith St Father occupation:- Cutter
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Claude Edgar Wallace
Name: Claude Edgar Wallace Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Feb 1885 Father's Name: Thomas William Wallace Mother's name: Emma Wallace Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 25 Jan 1885 Address:- 482 Kings Road Father occupation:- Tailor
The following is NOT yours ................
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Louisa Wallace
Name: Louisa Wallace Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 29 Jun 1890 Father's Name: Thomas Wallace Mother's name: Emma Wallace Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Watney Street Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Father's occupation is Printer
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5 Nov 2014 06:24 |
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are your dates correct????
1881 Census
Name Age Thomas W. Wallace 39 Emma Wallace 36 Mary Wallace 13 b.ca 1868, Pimlico, Middlesex Henry F. Wallace 12 b.ca 1869, Pimlico Willie Wallace 6 b.ca 1875, Chelsea, Middlesx Effie Wallace 3 Frank Wallace 1 Annie Burns 18
Thomas William and Emma married in 1874 ................
Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%) Carter Emma Chelsea 1a 508 Wallace Thomas William Chelsea 1a
BUT Mary and Henry F were born in 1868 and 1869 respectively, so Thomas must have been married before
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5 Nov 2014 06:42 |
is it at all possible that Henry F and Mary were actually Emma's children before she married Thomas William?
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5 Nov 2014 06:45 |
very possible!!!
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Thomas William Wallace
Name: Thomas William Wallace Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Age: 31 Spouse: Emma Carter Spouse Age: 30 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 12 Jul 1874 Parish: St Luke, Chelsea Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: William Wallace Spouse Father: James North Register Type: Parish Register
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Thomas Bachelor Occupation:- Tailor Address:- 18 Christ Church Street Father occupation:- Coachman
Emma Widow no occupation shown Address:- 47 Flood Street Father occupation:- Builder (deceased)
Witnesses:- George North and Elizabeth Brook
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5 Nov 2014 06:55 |
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Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%)
CARTER Henry T St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 645 North Emma St Geo Han Sq 1a 645
I think this marriage for a Thomas Wallace and an Emma is incorrect ................
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emma North
Name: Emma North Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Age: 22 Spouse: Thomas Howell Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 2 Nov 1867 Parish: Holy Trinity, Paddington Borough: Westminster Father Name: Thomas North Spouse Father: Joseph Howell Register Type: Parish Register
On the image, this Thomas Wallace is a FIREMAN
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5 Nov 2014 10:27 |
This looks like Lilian in 1911
Name: Lilian M Wallace Age in 1911: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation to Head: Niece Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Wandsworth County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 468 Merton Road, Wandsworth S W Marital Status: Single Occupation: MOTHERS HELP DOMESTIC Registration district: Wandsworth Registration District Number: 26 Sub-registration district: Southfields ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 2409 Household Members: Name Age George Townsend Carter 53 Mary Anne Carter 50 Sidney George Carter 25 Stanley Townsend Carter 23 Frank Codagern Carter 18 Edward F T Carter 14 Lilian M Wallace 28
Looks like she never married. DOB matches that given on her baptism record
Name: Lilian Mabel Wallace Birth Date: 23 Jul 1882 Date of Registration: Mar 1973 Age at Death: 90 Registration district: Sutton Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 5e Page: 772
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5 Nov 2014 10:43 |
1911
Name: William Wallace Age in 1911: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Chelsea, London, England Civil Parish: Prittlewell County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 41 Lovelace Gardens, Southend On Sea, Essex Marital Status: Married Occupation: Clothier Employer Registration district: Rochford Registration District Number: 195 Sub-registration district: Prittlewell ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Household schedule number: 59 Piece: 10146 Household Members: Name Age William Wallace 36 Alice Wallace 32 Alice Ritty Wallace 12 William Alfred Wallace 9 Cecil Henry Wallace 5 Constance Nellie Wallace 4 Dorothy Wallace 1 Mary Ann Wheelcup 20
Married 12 years, 5 children born, 5 living
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5 Nov 2014 10:45 |
1901
Name: William Wallace Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Kitty Wallace Birth Place: Chelsea Civil Parish: St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Deptford, North ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 523 Folio: 78 Page Number: 51 Household schedule number: 322 Household Members: Name Age William Wallace 26 Kitty Wallace 22 Kitty Wallace 2
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5 Nov 2014 10:49 |
Name: Alice Kitty Wallace Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 9 Apr 1899 Father's Name: Willie Wallace Mother's name: Alice Wallace Parish or Poor Law Union: Deptford St Paul Borough: Lewisham Register Type: Parish Registers
Maybe?
Name: Willie Wallace Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Fulham Inferred County: London Volume: 1a Page: 613 Records on Page: Name Alice Kirton Willie Wallace
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5 Nov 2014 10:57 |
Above marriage correct?
Name: Willie Wallace Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Age: 23 Spouse: Alice Kirton Spouse Age: 19 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 10 Apr 1898 Parish: Holy Trinity Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: Thomas William Wallace <<<<<< Spouse Father: Alfred Henry Kirton Register Type: Parish Register
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5 Nov 2014 11:10 |
Henry is Henery A Carter in 1871 not Henry F?
Name: Henry A Carter Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry T Carter Mother's name: Emma Carter Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub-registration district: Belgrave ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Household schedule number: 175 Piece: 115 Folio: 69 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Henry T Carter 27 Emma Carter 26 Mary T Carter 3 Henry A Carter 2 Ernest G Carter 3 Months
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5 Nov 2014 12:30 |
Westminster Marriages Transcription (Find My Past) First name(s) HENRY TOWNSEND Last name CARTER (Bachelor occ.Tailor) Marriage year 1866 Marriage day 08 Marriage month Aug Parish St Peter, Eaton Square, Pimlico Spouse's first name(s) EMMA Spouse's last name NORTH (Spinster) Groom's age Full Bride's age Full County Middlesex Record set Westminster Marriages (Fathers, Elias Carter occ. Tailor. James North occ. Builder. Residence at Time (him) Westbourne Street (her) Hark Lane. Wits. J. Carter, Mary Ann North)
Deaths Jun 1871 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Carter Henry Townsend 27 St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 238
All England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858 - 1966 (Ancestry)
Henry Townsend Carter (Probate Year) 1875 (Death Date) 29 Jun 1871 Middlesex, England (late of 39 Westbourne Street Pimlico, was Proved by Emma Wallace (wife of Thomas William Wallace) (formerly Carter, Widow) of 47 Flood Street Kings Road Chelsea Sole Executrix. Effects under £200)
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Susan
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9 Dec 2014 08:36 |
Hi Eugenie Frank North Wallace got his middle name from his mother's maiden name North - Emma North married Henry Townsend Carter 1866 they had 3 children, Mary Townsend Carter - Henry Arthur Carter - Ernest G Carter. Emma's husband died 1871 and she remarried Thomas Wallace 12/6/1874 St Luke's they went on to have 4 children Effie,Frank,Lillian, Claude. In one of the census, I think it was 1880 it list her children from her first marriage but Thomas Wallace has entered them with his surname and not Carter. Hope this helps, Susan
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