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This then would seem to be the Louisa Hurwood nee Pearce.................. Now Hearn !!!......


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Double House, Horse and Groom Yard, Shoreditch, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Arthur Hearn Head Married Male 40 1851 Carman & Contractor Surrey, England
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Louisa Hearn Wife Married Female 33 1858 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England
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Thomas Taylor Servant Single Male 20 1871 Carman St George in the East, Middlesex, England

Dea x

SO........ This is the Arthur Hearn(e) she married in 1883:


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
34, Stoke Newington Road, Hackney, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Arthur Hearne Head Married Male 30 1851 Licenced Victualler Brixton, Surrey, England
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Jared Hearne Brother Single Male 24 1857 Drapers Assistant (Unemployed) Brixton, Surrey, England
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Elizabeth Warren Servant Single Female 26 1855 Barmaid Hackney, Middlesex, England
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Charles Stevanes Barman Single Male 23 1858 Barman (Is) Hackney, Middlesex, England

Dea x

Well - A definate connection (of some sort) here :-S :-S :-S - Thanks Mo <3

It is interesting to note that on Louisa's marriage to John Hearn, she is a widow and her father is WILLIAM Pearce, a Glass Stainer !!!

I can see this is going to be another long and confusing day !!! ;-) :-D

Dea Xxx

Maureen's post can mean only one thing...

Louisa Mark 1 (Pearce) left John Hurwood and married bigamously (as a widow which she wasn't) to Arthur Hearn in 1883.

So sometime - and judging by the births of Arthur and Florence - Louisa Mark II (Churchill) assumed the mantle of Mrs Hurwood until John died and she remarried to Edward Plumb

:-0

Jude

Gosh...I brought snacks and water for this one! :-D ;-) <3 <3

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Edward Plumb
Name: Edward Plumb
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 37
Spouse: Louisa Harwood
Spouse Age: 36
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Mar 1899
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Stephen Plumb
Spouse Father: Henry Harwood
Register Type: Parish Register
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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Louisa Hurwood
Name: Louisa Hurwood
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Age: 27
Spouse: Arthur Hearn
Spouse Age: 34
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jun 1883
Parish: St James, Clerkenwell
Borough: Islington
Father Name: William Pearce
Spouse Father: John Hearn
Register Type: Parish Register

I know...keep working..

Moxx

Good Morning
I am going to try an look at this again
Dea
when Arthur married Harriett in 1909 he named John Hurwood as his father!!
if that is Louisa on the census born 1856 could she have gotten away with saying she was 36 when she married Edward Plumb??? to make matters even more confusing on the marriage cert her father is William Pearce a glazier but on her marriage cert to Edward her father is Henry Churchill carpenter ????

ChristinaS
that is exactly what I was thinking could she have had both children as a result of an affair?? John was 44 when he died of alcoholic poisoning !!!!!

I will see what today brings thankyou for all your help and pointers

Arthur Hick* father may not be on the baptism but, another man may be named, even a grandfather

It's still worth getting the birth certificate

Arthur married Harriett Ellen Boby in 1909 - It would be interesting to see who he named as his father when he married (if anyone) ??


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Harriett Ellen Boby
Name: Harriett Ellen Boby
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Edmonton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 1222
Records on Page:
Name
Harriett Ellen Boby
Frederick Hearmon
Arthur Hurwood
Grace Fayers Lockwood

Dea x

Yes, that age would make more sense for the marriage.

My reason for thinking she's also Louisa Pearce with John Hurwood on the 1881 is that Florence Hurwood was Broomstick's Gt..grandmother. So she has traced back to her.

If the Louisa on the 1881 and 1891 were the same person - why would she register her children, born 1884 and 1886, under a different name, and say their father's name was Arthur?

Could this be Louisa Pearce before her marriage ?? - It would make her old enough to marry in 1874 and her father William is a Glazier !!


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clarendon Street, Pancras, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Pearce Head - Male 47 1824 - Somerset, England
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Mary Ann Pearce Wife - Female 37 1834 - Surrey, England
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Elizabeth Pearce Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Surrey, England
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Louisa Pearce Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Middlesex, England
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Mary S Pearce Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Middlesex, England
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Susan Pearce Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Middlesex, England
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William F Pearce Son - Male 7 1864 - Middlesex, England
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Lucy Pearce Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Middlesex, England
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John Barratt Boarder - Male 29 1842 - Middlesex, England
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Henry Wells Boarder - Male 18 1853 - Middlesex, England
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Edward W Pearce Son - Male 17 1854 - Middlesex, England

Dea x

I think you've found it there Gins. So I wonder if that means the father won't be named after all.

Could this be the birth that Mavis posted


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906


Name:Arthur Hick Born Queen Charlotte Hospital

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:2 Aug 1884 DOB Aug 1st

Mother's name:Louisa Hick No father named

Parish or Poor Law Union:St John´s Wood St Mark

Borough:Westminster

Register Type:Parish Registers

and me ................ :-S :-(

Dea x

Me too :-D

I need to come back to this later and write it down- I'm more confused than when I started!

I don't think she is. I think that's Louisa Pearce. :-S

I still think that she is Gritty ! ;-)

Dea x

According to my albeit limited research is the one I have thinking along is Lousia Pearce but now I am not sure because as you follow this through John dies in 1898 and Louisa goes onto marry Edward plumb in 1899 then on the 1901 census arthur is on there as Arthur Churchill hurwood stepson
I think I threw a spanner in because I received a birth cert for florence anne same date of birth as my gt nan but mother listed as Louisa Churchill née hicks father Arthur Churchill so who knows :-D

so are we saying that the Louisa on the 1881 census below, isn't Louisa Churchill? Sorry- I don't want to confuse things, just trying to get it straight.

John Hurwood
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Louisa Hurwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth (I S), Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Street address: 22 Albion St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: French Polisher
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 230
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hurwood 27
Louisa Hurwood 19 born Chapel Grove, Middlesex, England Artists Model (Art Service)

Ok I will send for the cert to see what that says
That way we may know one way or the other thanks
Will check back in the morning :-)