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Wow thank you so much for all the research that's been done over the last couple of days. I'm sure LeiLanie will be really grateful too.

Chris

Name: Clara Irene Kingsland
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1909
Date of Registration: Apr 2001
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: South Hams
Inferred County: Hampshire
Register Number: 7
District and Subdistrict: 4171
Entry Number: 23



Surname First name Date of probate Probate number Date of death Document type Registry

KINGSLAND CLARA IRENE 19 June 2001 708739 23 April 2001 Grant and will Bristol

Name: Clara I Wall
Spouse Surname: Shepherdson, George R
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1937
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 584


Name: Able Seaman George Russell Shepherdson
Death Date: 3 Aug 1940
Cemetery: Plymouth Naval Memorial
Burial or Cremation Place: Plymouth, Plymouth Unitary Authority, Devon, England
Has Bio?: N


Rank:Able SeamanService No:D/J 107545
Date of Death:03/08/1940 Age:33
Regiment/Service:Royal Navy H.M. Submarine Thames
Panel Reference: Panel 38, Column 2.
Memorial:PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of William and Harriet Shepherdson; husband of Clara Irene Shepherdson, of Ivybridge, Devon.

Name: Clara I Shepherdson
Spouse Surname: Kingsland, Albert R
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1941
Registration district: Plympton
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 705

Name: Harriet Louise Wall
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 208


Name: Harriet L Wall
Spouse Surname: Kingsland, Gordon
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1923
Registration district: Plympton
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 489


Name: Harriet L Kingsland
Birth Date: abt 1899
Date of Registration: Jun 1968
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 726

Name: Dennis N J Cudlip
Mother's Maiden Surname: Wall
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1922
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 810


Surname First name Date of probate Probate number Date of death Document type Registry

CUDLIP DENNIS NORMAN JOHN 29 March 2006 2104850 20 February 2006 Grant and will Bristol

Name: Ida May Wall
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 260


Name: Ida M Wall
Spouse Surname: Cudlip, John R T
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Tavistock
Inferred County: Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 859


Name: Ida May Cudlip
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1896
Date of Registration: Jan 1992
Age at Death: 95
Registration district: Honiton
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 1445

Walter Wall was in South Africa from 6th June 1900 to 8th April 1901, so just missed being on the 1901 UK census.

Think you are correct there Choccy as there is no matching birth for her if she was actually 16. It does say she is the daughter of Ellen who was too young to have a 16 year old daughter.

I think that is probably Florence Ivy Wall on the 1901 census and should read 6 years, although does say 16 on original.

1901

Name: Ellen Wall
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Truro, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Plymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2096
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Wall 28, Soldier's wife
Florence J Wall 16
Ida M Wall 4
Harriet L Wall 2

1881 England Census


Name:Walter Wall

Age:14

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867

Relationship to Head:Son

Father:William Wall - Coal Miner

Mother:Harriet Wall

Gender:Male

Where born:Paulton, Somerset, England
Civil Parish:High Littleton
County/Island:Somerset
Country:England

Street address:Broomhill

Occupation:General Labour

Registration district:Clutton
Sub registration district:Clutton

ED, institution, or vessel:8


Piece:2427
Folio:109
Page Number:17


William Wall 47 - Devon
Harriet Wall 38 - Wells, Somerset
Mary Wall 17 - Paulton
Alfred Wall 15 - Paulton
Walter Wall 14 - Paulton
William Wall 13 - Paulton
John Wall 9 - Paulton
Clara Wall 7 - Paulton
Louis Wall 4 - High Littleton
Henry Wall 2 - High Littleton

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2427; Folio: 109; Page: 17; GSU roll: 1341584.

Oh, well found Choccy. I couldn't find that record on Ancestry. Had posted this census, then deleted it as I couldn't follow it up!

1911

Name: Walter Wall
Age in 1911: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Paulton, Somerset
Civil Parish: Plympton St Mary
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 4 Lamorna Place, Underwood, Plympton, Devon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 18
Estimated Marriage Year: 1893
Occupation: Railway Labourer
Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Registration District Number: 275
Sub registration district: Plympton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 12917
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Wall 45
Ellen Wall 40
Ida Wall 15
Lowis Wall 13
Edith Wall 9
Clara Wall 1

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s) WALTER

Last name WALL (Occupation - Engine Driver)

Birth year 1868

Birth parish NEWTOWN
Birth town BRISTOL
Birth county SOMERSET
Birth country ENGLAND

Service number 8325

Regiment Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)

Document Type Attestation

Attestation year 1886

Attestation Day 12
Attestation Month 7
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months 8

Attestation Corps Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)
Attestation service number 8325
Discharge Corps Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)

Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 6152
Box Record Number 74
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

Father - William Wall of Newtown, Paulton, Bristol

>>>>>Married to ELLEN GILBERT at the Registry Office, Devonport, on 25th December 1892

Maybe?

Name: Ellen Gilbert
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 763

Records on Page:
Name
Ellen Gilbert
Eleanor Smith
Walter Wall

Hi LeiLanie,

Thank you for your messages. The photo is my nan on my mums side, no connection to the Munn family.

I cannot understand why we cannot find a death record for Henfrey either, it's so frustrating. I've tried looking for an obituary for Dennis to see if we can find living family to try and get an answer but haven't come across one.

What was William Walter Wall's occupation on Florence's birth certificate, it may help us to find them in the census.

Chris

I have a copy of Henfrey's wife's birth certificate.
Florence Ivy Wall. Father is William Walter Wall 1870. Mother was ellen Gilbert 1871. I have tried to do some research but there are sooo many Walls in the Devon area.

William Ealy Munn died in 1906 and Emma remarried William Dawson and they lived in Leicester. There were two more Munn children from Wm and Emma.. Horace b1900 and Frederick 1902.
When Emma married Dawson the young frederick was living with them. Frederick married lillian May Bale in 1922 and I found one child, Arthur b1924. I found 6 children born to Arthur and wife Edith.

Winifred came to Toronto and apparently attended Jarvis Collegiate and then did the Mothercraft nursing training and worked as a nanny.

Does anyone have an idea why there would be no public death record for Henfrey?

The Church of England Homes for Waifs and Strays, whose headquarters are at Old Town Hall, Kennington Road, S.E. 11, shelter 4,630 children in 108 English and Welsh homes with two Canadian branches.

http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/15th-december-1928/34/christmas-appeals

(from google search, above, not sure if below would hold anything, Admissions wise!. LMA)

http://jubilation.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/children/lists/eryehome.html

(her Arrival 1929)


http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/visiting-the-city/archives-and-city-history/london-metropolitan-archives/family-history/Pages/default.aspx

Chris :)

(from 1911)

Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Munn Winifred K Ottaway Bury 8c 1255
Ottaway Evelyn W Munn Bury 8c 1255


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1915
MUNN Winifred Kate OTTAWAY Evelyn Walter Bury Register Office or Registrar Attended Bury RM/126/78

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/a/r/Julie-Harper-Hampshire/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0010.html


(was his Brother Harold Ewart Munn, Death 1916?)

29 January 1909 - Northampton Mercury - Northampton, Northamptonshire

KETTERING.
Harold Ewart Munn, shoe hand, Kettering, charged with stealing two pairs of boots, the property of Albert Cecil Hulett, at Kettering, was sent to a Reformatory School for three years.


1901 (Find My Past)
William Munn Head Married Male 34 1867 Boot Finisher Pytchley, Northamptonshire, England
Emma Munn Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Ada Munn Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Henfrey Munn Son Single Male 10 1891 - Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Harry Munn Son Single Male 8 1893 - Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Harold Munn Son Single Male 6 1895 - Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Winifred Munn Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Irthlingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Dick Munn Son - Male 1 1900 - Kettering, Northamptonshire, England
Ellen Loames Boarder Single Female 16 1885 Boot Closer Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Street Havelock Street
Town Kettering
Parish Kettering
Country England
County Northamptonshire
Municipal ward Northern
Registration district Kettering
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 1448
Folio 91
Page 20


Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
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Munn Harry William Wellingbro' 3b 135


Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
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MUNN Harold Ewart Wellingborough 3b 153


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1914
MUNN * Emma DAWSON Wiliam Bury Register Office or Registrar Attended Bury RM/123/140

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Hi Lonnie

welcome to the Boards.


That does add some information, I am sure Chrissie will look on here soon, she's often around.


This looks like your mother's passage to Canada



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Winifred Munn

Name: Winifred Munn
Gender: Female
Age: 15
Birth Date: abt 1914
Departure Date: 17 May 1929
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Regina
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Regina' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Line
Official Number: 140596
Master: E Davies


Looking at the image .....................

Waifs and Strays Party (Juvenile Rate)

c/o Church of England Homes for Waifs and Strays, Kensington, London, SE (or SC)

travelling 5 to a cabin


the party seems to be under the possible guidance of May (or Mary) Quatermans, c/o same address, who travelled for £10 ....... she was only 17 but had a cabin to herself


All going to Quebec, and all the girls intended for Domestic work, the boys for Farming

I can clarify some issues. Henfrey was my grandfather but I too am looking for info on his death and also his wife Florence Ivy. My mother Winifred Ivy came to Canada at age 15 as an orphan after the death of her grandmother Emma Dawson (Munn) nee Neville. Henfrey had a long list of siblings Ada was the oldest and the only one mom remembered. Mom was born at the barracks in Devonport and it appears there was a younger brother Dennis but she never mentioned him to us. I didn't have any military info on Henfrey other than his regiment. Winifred had four children all born in Toronto and I am the oldest. LeiLanie 1939, Virginia 1940 deceased, david 1942, Norman 1945. I am hoping the 1921 census is released in my lifetime.
Lonnie Sparkes. Orillia. Ontario. Canada