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WW 2 dead.....updated & sorted Thank you.

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Sep 2014 12:02

You should always try to verify any info that you have been given, especially when it all seems so much like guesswork

freebmd is the site for doing that

This is Amy in 1911. I have sent a correction to FMP

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5 Parker Road South Croydon, Croydon, Surrey, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
John George Snow Head Married Male 52 1859 Margate Kent House Painter Image Transcription
Annie Snow Wife Married Female 35 1876 Battersea - Image Transcription
William Harry Snow Son Married Male 27 1884 Battersea Carpenter Image Transcription
John Alein Snow Son - Male 5 1906 Croydon Surrey - Image Transcription
Ann Alice Snow Daughter - Male 4 1907 Croydon Surrey - Image Transcription
George Frederick Snow Son - Male 1 1910 Balham - Image Transcription


Annie must have been a 2nd wife. William can't be her child

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Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 3 Sep 2014 11:24

Thank you all

Yes Jackie..... Kathleen Simmonds was my M in L.... 3 sons & 1 daughter followed.....MMN Simmons... I know for certain this is correct... I knew all that were born after Kathleen.

Thank you Margee..Chris.. Will look at that..

Tess.... Yes there was 1 other daughter but her husband was William.. known as Bill.

Now it gets complicated.....

Amy Alice Snow is I believe ( not proven) the daughter of John George Snow & Annie Gifford... This was on an outline descendent tree sent to me in Jan.2012. Unfortunately I can't remember by who...I was in a very bad place then....

It goes on to say...

1st. husband of Amy Alice Snow...Stephen Arthur Jackson.Mar. Aug. 31st 1925 Croydon.
2nd'. husband Unknown.. B. abt 1907 Eng. Mar. about 1938 Eng..
3rd. husband George Gardiner B. abt 1905 in Eng.Mar. abt. 1943 England.

No mention of any children

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Sep 2014 10:17

What a brilliant site, Chris. Thanks for mentioning it. It's in my bookmarks

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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Sep 2014 10:08

http://sites.bookofremembrance.eu/index.php?site=croydon&task=name

(Amy Alice on above, possible others?)

Chris :)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Sep 2014 09:56

Stephen and Amy's first-born's marriage

Marriages Dec 1960 (>99%)
JACKSON Arthur J WATSON Croydon 5g 166

Info about whether his father was alive or not should be on the cert

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Sep 2014 09:44

This birth would fit nicely with the death added above

Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
SNOW Amy Alice Croydon 2a 266

I've looked at freebmd, there is no record of a marriage in 1938 for Amy A Jackson

Where did you get the info that such a marriage took place?

There are births for Jackson with MMN Snow in Croydon from 1926 until 1943.

There is also a Jackson to Snow marriage in 1935, so can't say if the later births belong to that one

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Choccy

Choccy Report 3 Sep 2014 07:36


Just to clarify - even though it doesn't help your original request

are you certain Amy Alice Jackson re-married in 1938?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Amy Alice Jackson
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1907
Date of Registration: Mar 1983
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 11
Page: 2118


TessAkaBridgetTheFidget

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget Report 3 Sep 2014 03:03

If Edward and Kate had any other daughters, perhaps the husban of one of them died in WW11 and was known as Jack.

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Woodhouse and Trilloe from Herefordshire; Lockyear and Date from Somerset, Thomas and Edwards from Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire, also Argyll, Tipperary, Limerick, Cork

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Sep 2014 02:33

All of the Jacksons on the Dunkirk Memorial are listed here. None seem to match.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1&sort=name&order=asc

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Sep 2014 22:43

Correcting the marriage pairing

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
Jackson Edward Croydon 2a 391
Simmonds Kate Croydon 2a 391

One birth after 1911 in Croydon
Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Jackson Kathleen Simmonds Croydon 2a 467

There are four later ones with no D in the MMN

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Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 2 Sep 2014 15:19

Have recieved Marriage cert for Arthur S Jackson today.

Definitely not the right one... In fact could hardly be more wrong.

Age , Condition, profession , father's name etc. All Wrong.....

So sadly back to square one ..

Am waiting for death cert of James B Jackson, but that , if the correct person , will only indicate that the brother referred to as "Jack" was Arthur Stephen Jackson.

So back to.. did he die during ww2 as OH said ? ...if so... Where is he hiding.? .

I have FMP copy of ww2 deaths other ranks.. for all Jackson's.. Unless I am missing something, he is not on there..

Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 28 Aug 2014 15:10

Hi Jacqueline... No these are not his parents... They are Edward Jackson & Kate/Kathleen Simmon(d)s. Have M. cert. Also the birth/death certs for the 2 who died. 1st. & 3rd. children of 10.
Stephen Arthur was 2nd. My M in L was 6th. There is another possible death in 1917. George. ./mother Simmons.
Have ordered the Marriage cert for Arthur S Jackson that you kindly found for me & will go from there.Will take about 10 working days !! My how the price has shot up since I last ordered any.Was £7+ then
Went back to my electoral roll copy for 1939. He was registered as Arthur Stephen on there so it is looking good.

Thank you

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 15:46

Are these the parents?

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
Jackson Edward Croydon 2a 391
Pickford Kate Edith Croydon 2a 391

There are no births for Jackson with MMN Pickford in Croydon

2 children had died before 1911 census

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 15:43

Sorry to ask, but are you totally sure that this Uncle Jack was a Jackson?

Could he have been an uncle from the maternal line?

Jack was the common diminutive for John.

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Aug 2014 14:56

It looks James died as a toddler

Print individual transcription View image
First name(s) JAMES B
Last name JACKSON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1910
Age 2
Death quarter 4
Death year 1912
District CROYDON
County Surrey
Volume 2A
Page 345
Country England

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Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 14:07

Thankyou Flip.... Think I'll have to put ancestry on my xmas list.

Flip

Flip Report 27 Aug 2014 14:03

That one was from Ancestry - there is also the christening of Stephen Arthur (and they hadn't changed his name around):

Stephen Arthur Jackson
Baptism Date:14 May 1904
Archive Provided Parish:Croydon, St Andrew
Parish as it Appears:Croydon, St Andrew
Father:Edward Jackson
Mother:Kate Jackson
Reference Number:3188/1/3

Unfortunately no dob is given on register.

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Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 13:45

Flip.. Thank you...... Which sight do you use for Baptisms please.

Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 13:42

Blimey Jacqueline... Shows how slow I type.

Thank you. Silly me reversed names . of course.

The family lost 4 sons then by the looks of it.. I have confirmation of 2

Will sort through all this & send for some certs.... Thank you..

Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 13:37

Thank you Jacqueline.I only put "Known as" because that is all the information my OH can give me...Uncle Jack died at Dunkirk...!!!!
These 2 brothers not accounted for out of a family of 10 The object is to find whether just one or both brothers died in WW2 . And ultimately which one had the nick name Jack

I have no other information for Benjaman James after the 1911 census. Have looked for death & marriage. nothing.

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