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26 Aug 2014 14:12 |
Name: William Wright Butlin Registration Year: 1838 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Loughborough Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 15 Page: 137 Records on Page: Name William Bonser William Wright Butlin William Orringe Ann Orton Julia Crowther Trentham
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26 Aug 2014 14:05 |
1861
Name: William W Butlin Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: 1814 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Julia C Butlin Gender: Male Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Camborne Ecclesiastical parish: Camborne St Martin Town: Camborne County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Camborne ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 152 Piece: 1583 Folio: 45 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age William W Butlin 47 Curate Julia C Butlin 45 William H Butlin 22 ******* James T Butlin 19 Henry T Butlin 15 Julia F Butlin 13 Edward F Butlin 8 Mary Ann Trentham 41 Louisa Clarke 44 Elizabeth Thomas 24 Mary Cock 29 Eliza Coren 11 Robert Crocker 40
*****Billy Butlin's grandfather. So on the surface, if there is a relationship it looks pretty distant.
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26 Aug 2014 12:33 |
This site has Billy Butlin's parents and grandparents - you will need to trace back from that to see if you can find a connection:
http://www.butlinsmemories.com/other/billybutlin.htm
"William Heygate Colbourne Butlin was born in Cape Town, South Africa on 29th September 1899. His father, who was the son of a clergyman, had been sent to this hot and humid climate as he was what was then known as a "remittance man" "
There is a tree on Ancestry for him.
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26 Aug 2014 12:04 |
To rootgatherer & greyghost you have both been superb with my quest, did not expect to find all this. Here is one for you though as you bothe seem to love the detective work, My Gran always said that her mum who was also Maria Butlin (1900) with her grandad Clarke Butlin (1864-1939)were in someway related to the one and only Billy Butlin, we always passed it off as a family joke, but who knows.........
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26 Aug 2014 11:52 |
Thanks rootgatherer. Can't find a marriage though or Abigail's death. I wonder if she wasn't dead as I can't find a marriage for George and Mary either.
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26 Aug 2014 11:45 |
Great find Greyghost :-D
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26 Aug 2014 11:40 |
George with parents Clarke and ?Abigail in 1841
England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Russel Street, Stepney, Middlesex, England
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Clarke Butling Male 25 1816 - Customs Officer, not born in County Abyeal Butling Female 25 1816 - George Butling Male 3 1838 - George Butling Male 20 1821 - Plumber Mary Kightley Female 50 1791 - S Longland Female 20 1821 - James Godwin Male 20 1821 Middlesex Elizabeth Godwin Female 25 1816 Middlesex Elizabeth Godwin Female 1 1840 Middlesex
First name(s) Clarke Last name Butling Gender Male Age 25 Birth year 1816 Birth county - Street Russel Street Parish or township Stepney City or borough - Town Mile End Old Town, Upper County Middlesex Country England Registration district Stepney Archive reference HO107 Piece number 712 Book number 15 Folio number 19 Page number 3
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26 Aug 2014 11:40 |
Once again guys many many many thanks, well chuffed with all this !
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26 Aug 2014 11:38 |
Name: Clark Butlin Gender: Male Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1849 Baptism Place: All Saints Church, Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England Father: Clark Butlin Mother: Mary Butlin FHL Film Number: 919442 Reference ID: 380
Pity it doesn't give a maiden surname for Mary
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26 Aug 2014 11:19 |
Name: Clarke Buttlin Gender: Male Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1816 Baptism Place: Harpole, Northampton, England Father: Eli Buttlin Mother: Mary Buttlin FHL Film Number: 6127683
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Jacqueline
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26 Aug 2014 11:17 |
Maria was born in Belfast
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26 Aug 2014 11:16 |
1851
Name: Clarke Butlin Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Butlin Gender: Male Where born: Harpole, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Sculcoates Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Kingston upon Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 36 Piece: 2361 Folio: 646 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Clarke Butlin 35, Tailor Mary Butlin 37 Clarke Butlin 1 John Wells 8 John Skawson 33
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26 Aug 2014 11:15 |
Or this one ?
1861 Scotland Census about James Johnston Name: James Johnston Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relationship: Son-in-law Spouse's name : Agnes Johnston Gender: Male Where born: Cupar, fifeshire Registration Number: 644/8 Registration district: Anderston Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 21 Washington St ****** Occupation: Cabinet Maker ED: 4 Household schedule number: 72 LINE: 6 Roll: CSSCT1861_108 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Smith 60 Margaret Smith 23 James Johnston 27 Agnes Johnston 26
Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Barony; ED: 4; Page: 15; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1861_108.
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26 Aug 2014 11:14 |
paul
The names of maria's parents have already been provided for you!
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26 Aug 2014 11:14 |
Mmmm - too easily tempted
???? Am looking at this - not finding a marriage, could this be George's father with a second partner
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Grimston Street, Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Clarke Butlin Head Married Male 35 1816 Tailor b Northamptonshire, Harpole Mary Butlin Wife Married Female 37 1814 - b Clifton, York Clarke Butlin Son - Male 1 1850 - b Hull John Wells Nephew - Male 8 1843 - b York John Strawson Lodger Unmarried Male 33 1818 Tailor
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26 Aug 2014 11:13 |
Her's George's Dad in 1861
Name: Clarke Ballin Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ballin Gender: Male Where born: Harpool, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Hull St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Humber ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Piece: 3587 Folio: 26 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Clarke Ballin 45, Temperence Hotel Keeper Mary Ballin 46 John C Booth 42 John Anderson 26 John H Pennister 22 Joseph Crabtree 58 Eliza Boothby 17 Mary Ann Merriman 20 Mary Watkin 17
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26 Aug 2014 11:13 |
I'm sure Paul will be delighted with the info you've found, which confirms my earlier assumption about the woman's maiden name
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26 Aug 2014 11:12 |
Could this family be a connection?
1861 Scotland Census about Rebecca Johnston Name: Rebecca Johnston Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 644/8 Registration district: Anderston Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 59 Washington St ********** ED: 5 Household schedule number: 52 LINE: 12 Roll: CSSCT1861_108 Household Members: Name Age Rebecca Johnston 68 David Johnston 18 Elizabeth Johnston 20
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26 Aug 2014 11:11 |
Thank you all so very much, all I need to do now is trace Marie Johnston's parentage !
Thanks everyone :)
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26 Aug 2014 11:06 |
Oh, well done Greyghost! I'm pretty confident that that is the correct marriage. Scots and Irish just loved naming their children for Grandparents.
I was out of credits myself or I would also have been tempted to look at that.
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