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Could this be the family in Canada?
1911 Census of Canada about Josef Shorten
Name: Josef Shorten
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 22
Birth Date: Jul 1889
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: George Shorten
Mother's name: Trancis Shorten
Immigration Year: 1907
Tribal: English
Province: Saskatchewan
District: Regina
District Number: 214
Sub-District: Regina
Sub-District Number: 64
Place of Habitation: Strait
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Shorten 57
Trancis Shorten 49
John Shorten 22
Josef Shorten 22
Frank Shorten 14
Phylis Shorten 11
And the same family in England? As John & Joseph are twins.
1891 England Census about Joseph William Shorten
Name: Joseph William Shorten
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Shorten
Mother's name: Jemima Shorten
Gender: Male
Where born: Sprowston, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Sprowston
Ecclesiastical parish: Sprowston
Town: Sprowston
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: St Faith
Sub registration district: Sprowston
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1517
Folio: 137
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
George Shorten 35
Jemima Shorten 29
Lily Shorten 10
George Shorten 8
John Shorten 1
Joseph William Shorten 1
Elizabeth Barker 65
I might add that the Canadian census was extremely difficult to read the original. No idea what wife's name was supposed to be.
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This might explain his death:
13th March Wellington III BK158 No.199 Sqn nr Skellingthorpe Coded EX-G The aircraft was lost after the dinghy broke loose in flight, fouled the elevators and cause the aircraft to break up in flight. Sgt T.F. Hockley KIA, Sgt L.G. Vaughan KIA, Sgt L. Joisce KIA, Sgt A.G. Shorten RCAF KIA, Sgt A. McK Cormack KIA.
From this site:
http://www.bcar.org.uk/1943-incident-logs
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Go to http://maps.google.com/ and look up Shorten Lake, Division No. 18, Unorganized, SK
It's abt 10 m from SK's N boundary (i.e.,abt the same latitude as the S tip of the Mainland in Shetland), and abt 70m from the AB-SK border.
Alt: go to http://www.sasksearch.com/maps/remembrance.php
This page was created on November 10, 2006 and honours those Saskatchewan residents killed in service of Canada during WWII and Korea. In addition 11 who received the Victoria Cross are also honoured.
[To honour its war dead, SK decided to name some geographic feature after them - usually, it's a lake as SK has thousands of those.]
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hi
you can get a certificate for albert at cwgc print it free
yvonne
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*** 1911 LOOKUPS NEEDED FOR GEORGE SHORTEN & SON GERORGE PLEASE ***
On Ancestry, at http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2352 (advanced) specify Piece # = 11247
At FMP specify Keyword = Sprowston
We want George Sen b 1855 & George Charles b 1883.
In particular, I want to know how many kids their wives had, & how many are still alive.
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1901 [rg13/1833/148/20]
Name Age Where born Administrative county Civil parish Occupation
George Shorten 47 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Machinist Labourer
?????
George Shorten 18 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Agricultural Labourer
John Shorten 11 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Juvenile
Joseph Shorten 11 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Juvenile
Arthur Shorten 9 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Juvenile
Charles Shorten 6 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Juvenile
Ruth Shorten 6 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Juvenile
Frank Shorten 4 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Juvenile
Phyllis Shorten 1 Norfolk Sprowston Norfolk Sprowston Juvenile
[I couldn't guess how http://www.1901censusonline.com/ has transcribed Tremenia - Ancestry has:
Fremenia Shorten George abt 1863 city, Norfolk, England info city, Norfolk ]
1901 [rg13/1145/102/14]
Name Age Where born Administrative county Civil parish Occupation
Andrew A Sendall 26 Norfolk Kelling Berkshire St Marys Carpenter & Joiner
Lilly J Sendall 21 Norfolk Sprowston Berkshire St Marys
Ronald A Sendall 1 Berks Reading Berkshire St Marys Juvenile
1891 Census
Piece: RG12/1517 Place: Sprowston -Norfolk Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Sprowston Ecclesiastical Parish: St Margaret St Ann
Folio: 117 Page: 25 Schedule: 164
Address: -
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MELTON Barnabas Head M M 39 Ag Lab(Em'ee) Norfolk - Topcroft
MELTON Rebecca Wife M M 30 - Norfolk - Sprowston
MELTON Maryann Rebecca Dau - F 11 Scholar Norfolk - Sprowston
MELTON Ellen Emma Dau - F 9 Scholar Norfolk - Sprowston
MELTON Alice Agnes Dau - F 6 Scholar Norfolk - Sprowston
MELTON William James Son - M 3 - Norfolk - Sprowston
1881 England Census
Civil Parish: Sprowston
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Wroxham Road
Registration district: St Faith'S
Sub registration district: Sprowston
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 1935 Folio: 60 Page Number: 22
George Shorten 25 Sprowston, Norfolk, England Head M Farm Labourer
Tremenia Shorten 19 Sprowston, Norfolk, England Wife M Farm Labourer's Wife
Lilly Shorten Sprowston, Norfolk, England Daughter
[on the same page - Street address: Wroxham Road]
Martha Vandersten 59 Berkshire, England Head W
Martha Vandersten 24 London, London, Middlesex, England Daughter Silk Weaver
Thomas Vandersten 14 Sprowston, Norfolk, England Son Errand Boy
1881 England Census
Civil Parish: Sprowston
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Wroxham Road
Registration district: St Faith'S
Sub registration district: Sprowston
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 1935 Folio: 55 Page Number: 11
John Shorten 57 Trowse, Norfolk, England Head M Farm Labourer
Harriett Shorten 54 Bracon, Norfolk, England Wife M
Earnest A. Shorten 16 Sprowston, Norfolk, England Son Gardener
Herbert Shorten 14 Sprowston, Norfolk, England Son Gardener
Harriet Shorten 11 Sprowston, Norfolk, England Daughter Scholar
Everline Shorten 8 London, Middlesex, England Granddaughter Scholar
1881 England Census
Civil Parish: Kelling
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Hall Loke
Registration district: Erpingham
Sub registration district: Holt
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 1927 Folio: 87 Page Number: 17
John Ed. Sendall 33 Erpingham, Norfolk, England Head M Nursery & Market Gardener
Charlotte Sendall 33 Scotland Wife M
Ed. David Sendall 12 Thursford, Norfolk, England Son Scholar
Andrew Alma Sendall 6 Kelling, Norfolk, England Son Scholar
Rosa H. Sendall 5 Kelling, Norfolk, England Daughter Scholar
Donald J. Sendall 3 Kelling, Norfolk, England Son Scholar
Flora Elspeth Sendall 2 Kelling, Norfolk, England Daughter
1871 Census
Piece: RG10/1806 Place: Sprowston -Norfolk Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Sprowston Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 136 Page: 5 Schedule: 25
Address: -
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SHORTEN John Head M M 49 Ag Lab Norfolk - Trowse
SHORTEN Harriet Wife M F 45 Norfolk - Bracondale
SHORTEN Ellen Dau U F 26 Norfolk - Thorpe
SHORTEN George Son - M 17 Ag Lab Norfolk - Sprowston
SHORTEN Ernest Son - M 7 Scholar Norfolk - Sprowston
SHORTEN Herbert E Son - M 4 Scholar Norfolk - Sprowston
SHORTEN Mary Ann Dau - F 13 Scholar Norfolk - Sprowston
SHORTEN Harriet Dau - F 1 Norfolk - Sprowston
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Here's some BMDs:
Births
1880q3 SHORTEN Lily Tremenia St. Faiths 4b 102
1882q1 Shorten George Charles St. Faith's 4b 104
1889q3 Shorten John Thacker St. Faith's 4b 95
1889q3 Shorten Joseph William St. Faith's 4b 95
1892q2 Shorten Arthur Robert St. Faith's 4b 102
1894q3 Shorten Charlie Edward St. Faith's 4b 96
1894q3 Shorten Ruth Annie R St. Faith's 4b 96
1896q4 Shorten Frank Harry St.Faiths 4b 108
1899q3 Shorten Phillis Ivy St. Faiths. 4b 109
Births
1899q4 Sendall Ronald Alma Reading 2c 345
1901q3 SENDALL Flora Ruby Reading 2c 356
1903q4 Sendall Lily Tremenia Reading 2c 338
1905q4 Sendall Dorothy Violet Reading 2c 352
Deaths Dec 1906 (>99%)
Sendall Flora Ruby 5 Reading 2c 214
Births
1905q2 Shorten Walter George C St. Faith's 4b 95 Scan available - click to view
1907q4 SHORTEN Leonard Matthew St. Faiths 4b 91
Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
James Sarah St Faith's 4b 287
Shorten George St Faiths 4b 287
Shorten George St Faiths 4b 287
Vandersteen Tremenia St. Faith's 4b 287
I did a look up at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1416598
However, it's not fully indexed and I got no hit, so I tried the "Browse through 293,156 images" link, and followed the path:
England, Norfolk, Parish ...Record Office), 1510-1997 > Sprowston St Mary > Marriages > 1837-1888 > Image 207 of 252
and got to http://tinyurl.com/mb27u5p
[4/10/1879: George (labourer) s/o John (labourer); Tremenia d/o Charles (brushmaker); witnesses John S, Martha Jane V]
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3227143
Lily's bp 5/9/1880: http://tinyurl.com/n3r8d8k
Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
Moore Elizabeth Reading 2c 834
Sendall Andrew Alma Reading 2c 834
Shorten Lilly Tremenia Reading 2c 834
Stevens Frederick James Reading 2c 834
Berkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SHERTEN Lilly T SENDALL Andrew A Reading Holy Trinity Reading CE9/2/123
Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
Betts John Edward St. Faith's 4b 173
MELTON Alice Agnes St.Faiths 4b 173
Shorten George Charles St. Faiths 4b 173
Wright Harriet St. Faiths 4b 173
http://tinyurl.com/q3gf5t8
http://genealogy.ehealthsask.ca/vsgs_srch.aspx
Registration Number: 8300
Last Name: SENDALL
First Name: JOHN THACKER
Sex: M
Birth Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 1908 / 8 / 6
Place of Birth: REGINA
Mother LILLY SHORTEN
Father ANDREW ALMA SENDALL
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
Oddly, there's 2 hits for John & for Ellen - I suppose one is a memorial & the other a grave.
John T Shorten
Birth: 1889
Death: 1970
Burial:
Regina Beach Cemetery
Regina Beach
Regina Census Division
Saskatchewan, Canada
Find A Grave Memorial# 99045363
Ellen E Shorten (1888 - 1951)
Find A Grave Memorial# 99045349
John T Shorten
Birth: 1889
Death: 1970
Burial:
Saint Anthony's Roman Catholic Cemetery
Lake Lenore
Prince Albert Census Division
Saskatchewan, Canada
Find A Grave Memorial# 139328252
Ellen E Shorten (1888 - 1951)
Find A Grave Memorial# 139328258
Andrew Alma Sendall
Birth: unknown
Death: Mar. 12, 1936
Burial:
Hillcrest Cemetery
Weyburn
Weyburn Census Division
Saskatchewan, Canada
Plot: 044-009
Find A Grave Memorial# 64645422
Lilly T. Sendall
Birth: unknown
Death: Dec. 23, 1954
Burial:
Mountain View Cemetery
Vancouver
Greater Vancouver Regional District
British Columbia, Canada
Plot: JONES/*/02/025/0035
Find A Grave Memorial# 26291289
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearch
Ruth wed David Hoenan 17/5/1933 in Burns Lake BC
http://tinyurl.com/meyo6nc
http://tinyurl.com/lf5mdm4
http://tinyurl.com/ly8pv3d
http://tinyurl.com/kbke3yy
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Sorry - I forgot to post the Canadian stuff.
Lily came out first in mid April. Montreal probably couldn't be guarenteed to be ice-free when they booked passage for mid-April.
Ship:CANADA
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Date of Departure:1907-04-11
Port of Arrival:
Halifax, N.S.
Portland, ME
Date of Arrival:
1907-04
1907-04
Year:1907
Microfilm Reel Number:T-502
Remarks:
List Number: 645578
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:11648
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e148/e003699792.jpg
[bound for W'peg - AA is a carpenter]
Here's the Portland list
Microfilm Reel Number:T-514
Remarks:
List Number: 648769
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:40892
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e146/e003628878.jpg
[It looks like the same image, except there are disembarcation details on a slip at:
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e146/e003628849.jpg ]
George Snr came out after the UK census 2/4/1911, but before the Canadian census 1st June for 1911 thru 1921)
Ship:SARDINIAN
Shipping Line:Allan Line Steamship Co.
Port of Departure:
London, England
Le Havre, France
Date of Departure:
1911-04-19
1911-04-21
Port of Arrival:
Quebec, Que.
Montreal, Que.
Date of Arrival:
1911-05-06
1911-05
Year:1911
Microfilm Reel Number:T-4774
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:5574
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e143/e003568486.jpg
I couldn't find any pssages for John/Joseph/Arthur, and I've not seen Charles anywhere after 1901.
AG has dodgy transcriptions, but their display's handy
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Saskatchewan / Regina / 64 Regina / page 29
34 39 Sandall Andrew M Head M Sep 1876 35
35 39 Sandall Lily F Wife M Jul 1881 30
36 39 Sandall Ronald M Son S Nov 1900 11
37 39 Sandall Lily F Daughter S Oct 1903 8
38 39 Sandall Dorothy F Daughter S Nov 1905 6
39 39 Sandall John M Son S Aug 1908 3
40 40 Sherteus George M Head M Aug 1854 57
41 40 Sherteus Tanassia F Wife M Aug 1862 49
42 40 Sherteus John M Son S Jul 1889 22
43 40 Sherteus Josef M Son S Jul 1889 22
44 40 Sherteus Frank M Son S Aug 1897 14
45 40 Sherteus Phylis F Daughter S Aug 1900 11
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002102867.pdf
Ruth a=16 is missing - I can't find her elsewhere.
1916
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21943/pdf/31228_4363972-00740.pdf
[Jos Geo Trem Ruth Phyl - 2275 Reynolds]
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21943/pdf/31228_4363972-00578.pdf
[John Ellen + 2kids - 845 Rae
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21941/pdf/31228_4363970-00197.pdf
[Andrew is an inmate in the Provincial Asylum at T43 R16 W3M - occup = carpenter]
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21943/pdf/31228_4363972-00114.pdf
[addy= T16 R12 W2M - 1921 adds S30 to this]
Anyone can search 1921 and get images for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
Since the transcriptions are lengthy, I've omitted them
1921 Census of Canada about Joseph Shorten
Year of Immigration: 1910
Frank Shorten 24
1921 Census of Canada about Ruth Annie Shorten
Phyllis Joy Elvin 21
1921 Census of Canada about George Shorton [note spelling]
Section Number: 2275 Reynolds St Regina
Iremania Shorton 60
Ruth Shorton 26
[so Ruth is double counted, & George is still at his 1916 addy]
1921 Census of Canada about John Theodore Shokten [note spelling]
1921 Census of Canada about Lily Sandall [note spelling]
Year of Immigration: 1907
[Ron is a=21 not 31 as mistranscribed]
1921 Census of Canada about Victoria De Vachet [note spelling]
I can't find Arthur, Charles nor George Jnr in 1921. George Jnr is probably still in England, but I've seen no trace of Chas since 1901. Art returned to England with the CEF for WW1 - he could have stayed there.]
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx
Name: SHORTEN, ARTHUR
Regimental Number: 86681
Date of Birth: 01/04/1892
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/093428a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/093428b.gif
[attested 12/11/1914 - his nok is his dad G Shorten @ 2275 Reynolds- George & Tremenia's 1916 addy
Arthur's attestation is stamped 5th Field Artillary Brigade CEF and
also stamped Brigade Amm Col 5th FA Brigade
The Amm Col serving the 5th CFA Bde was the 2nd Div Amm Col, which also served the division's other CFA Bde - the 6th.
Canadian FA Bde's had three 18 pounder batteries (inc 18th Batty), & one 4.5" howitzer battery - all batts had 6 guns (4 guns pre-1916)]
86681 was an 18th Batty # and the Ammo Col was supposed to be raised in W'peg, so I'm a bit puzzled here - one really needs to see Art's record.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e038/e000945161.jpg
[In 1914, MD 10 covered SK, MB & ON (W of Thunder Bay - or whatever it was called back then).]
The 18th batt was raised in Regina.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/Documents/artillery.pdf
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/Documents/divisional%20ammunition%20column.pdf
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/020152_e.html
Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
Shorten Arthur Robert St. Faith's 4b 102
Name: SHORTEN, FRANK
Rank: SPR
Regimental Number: 2009515
[no image]
LAC are digitizing WW1 service records - Shorten is near the end of the alphabet, so it'll be abt a year for these guys, but come back later and there should be a free link to the WW1 service record.
Once you know Arthur's unit for sure, you can check that unit's War Diaries.
Most arty batts didn't keep WDs - that would be done at the brigade level.
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/020152_e.html
I had a look for Albert's RCAF service file at:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/second-world-war/second-world-war-dead-1939-1947/Pages/search.aspx
but no luck.
No PDF file available
Surname:SHORTEN
Given Name(s):ALBERT GEORGE
Age:20
Date of Birth:05 Jan 1923
Date of Death:13 Mar 1943
Rank:Warrant Officer Class II
Unit:Royal Canadian Air Force
Force:Air
Service Number:R102169
Reference:RG 24
Volume:28642
Extra Information:Son of Joseph William and Victoria Marie Clementine Shorten, of Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Item Number:32446
I didn't know abt this:
"Library and Archives Canada has started to add digitized copies of the files to the database.
For files not yet digitized, you can order copies."
There's more details at:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/second-world-war/second-world-war-dead-1939-1947/Pages/files-second-war-dead.aspx#e
So again, check next year.
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Re: "have her full name as Victoria, Maria, Clementine Shorten"
I'm assuming (without any idea of its truth) that her name was Victoria de Vocht.
I know in England, abt 3% of marrs are between 1st cousins, and abt 25% of those are children of 2 brothers, so have the same surnames. but it is unusual (it happened once in my family, though)..
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/land/land-grants-western-canada-1870-1930/Pages/land-grants-western-canada.aspx
Name:Harry DeVocht
Part:NW
Section:30
Township:16
Range:12
Meridian:W2
Folio:117
Liber:907
Microfilm Reel Number:C-6669
Item Number:73739
The above indicates Harry paid his $10 filing fee, and filed a homestead claim.
He had to live on his land 6m of the year, erect a dwelling, and get 30 acres under crop.
Noe I know:
LIBER DATES REEL NUMBER
907 July 16, 1921 - Aug. 02, 1921 C-6669
So Harry proved his claim (i.e., complied with the requirements), and was granted letters patent (i.e., title) in the summer of 1921.
He got 160 acres identified as S30NW T16 R12 W2M on the Dominion Survey.
Land on the prairies is identified by a grid system.
Township measures the northing in 6 m chunks from the US border, and Range masures the (usually) westing from the meridian to the east in 6 m chunks (from the 2nd meridian or longitude 102deg W here; 3rd M=106deg; 4th M=110deg=AB-SK border).
Within the 6 x 6 m block so defined, there are 36 sections numbered in an odd (but consistent) way, so S31 is in the NW corner and S30 is immediately S of that).
Each section is divided into quarters - Harry claimed the NW quarter of his section, which was 9m W and 11 m N of the Montmartre PO.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Land_Survey#Sections for how sections are numbered.
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Saskatchewan / Regina / 10 Township 17 in ranges 17 / page 14 split view
8 103 Norman John M Head M Jun 1873 38
9 103 Norman Sarah F Wife M Feb 1874 37
10 103 Norman Margaret F Daughter S Feb 1897 14
11 103 Norman Edward M Son S Aug 1899 11
12 103 Norman Alice F Daughter S Nov 1902 9
13 103 Norman John M Son S Jul 1904 6
14 103 Norman Veronica F Daughter S Oct 1907 4
15 103 Norman Gerald M Son S Aug 1908 2
16 103 Norman Francis M Son S Jun 1910 11/12
17 103 Shorten Patty F Employee S Jun 1894 17
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002101968.pdf
[so this is Ruth in S16 T17 R19 W2M - i.e., a couple of miles WSW of town]
This could be Arthur:
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Elgin East / 6 Bayham / page 1 split view
43 10 Firby Thomas W M Head M Oct 1849 62 01
44 10 Firby Mandy F Wife M Aug 1847 64 01
45 10 Firby Robert W M Son S May 1869 42 01
46 10 Firby Annis F Daughter S Jul 1877 33 01
47 10 Shorten Arthur M Domestic S Apr 1892 19
1921 Census of Canada about Thos W Firby
[This gives the 1921 addy as Sp Lot 5 Con 8 (i.e., South part of Lot 5 in Concession 8), Bayhem Twp, Elgin Co Ontario]
Bayhem Twp is at the midpoint of the N shore of L Erie]
Settlement in Ontario followed a different pattern.
After the American Revolution, Britain was anxious to populate possible US invasion routes.
Mostly, the crown sold land for settlement, but land was given free to Revolutionary refugees, and also to former British veterans of that war, and of the war of 1812.
Britain also sold land cheap to former servicemen, as they would be useful additions to the militia.
Counties were divided into townships of abt 80sq m. There was more of a sense of urgency than with the prairie survey, so townships were surveyed individually, or in groups of 2-4, and as soon as the survey was done, land was opened for settlement.
A township was usually split into 1.25 m wide concession strips, and the strip divided into 0.25m wide lots, so a full lot would be 200 acres, but they were usually split into halves.
Conditions (soil-weather) were better in Ontario than the prairies, so 100ac usually made a viable farm.
Homesteading requirements usually called for a larger %-age of land under crop, but the land was often forested, so clearing the land was a lot tougher (but timber gave a useful income source), so time to prove was often 10y.
There is no obvious way to identify a given lot without a map, but fortunately, concession maps are online for S Ont at:
http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/Countyatlas/SearchMapframes.php
A word of caution - maps are note always oriented in the standard way, and sometimes there's no compass rose, so pay attention to orientation as you drill down at this site.
http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/Countyatlas/images/maps/townshipmaps/elg-m-bayham.jpg
does have a compass rose, and N is at the right-hand edge.
The site also lists some grants given to Firby's.
Full record for Firby, Robert
Last Name Firby
First Name Robert
Post Office Corinth
Township Bayham
County Elgin
Atlas Date 1877
Concession and Lot Lot size
VII, 112 200
VIII, 1 100
VIII, 5 100
IX, 1 100
IX, 2 50
IX, 3 25
IX, 4 100
100
Full record for Firby, T.
Last Name Firby
First Name T.
Township Bayham
County Elgin
Atlas Date 1877
Concession and Lot Lot size
IX, 3 100
Full record for Firby, Walker
Last Name Firby
First Name Walker
Nativity Canada
Business Farmer
Year Settled 1844
Post Office Corinth
Township Bayham
County Elgin
Atlas Date 1877
Concession and Lot Lot size
IX, 2 100
X, 2 50
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