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adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 15:42

just looking at the siblings now who they marrid when they died

then will move on to

robert george entwistle 1868 grandfather to the siblings

i want to look at roberts children also :)

I'm off to work soon till late but thanxx for your help and time :)

Dea

Dea Report 6 Aug 2014 15:37

I am just out for an hour or so too but will catch up when I get back.

Adelle - whatever other info you need on this family - just post on this thread and we will have everything together so that we can help you.

You will be able to find it under 'my threads' to the left of the board.

Dea Xxx

adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 15:25

thank you the first lot of info was brill but a lot to take in :) thanxxxx

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Aug 2014 15:20

In case you're still wondering about whether Ellen was Mary Ellen's surname or not -

Ellen was her middle name. She was Mary Ellen Peck, then married George Entwistle.

If you look at Dea's useful roundup of all the information people had posted on your earlier threads (see page 1 of this thread), you'll see their marriage record.

adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 15:20

:) funny coz I'm adelle and ppl call me ada x thank you will look for marriages and deaths now x :-)

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Aug 2014 15:17

That's good Dea :-)

so that accounts for all 11 children. I'm just off out but I think Ada was one of the children who had died by 1911.

adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 15:08

from my nanas memory hearing the names she remembers albert defiantly apparently he was a reallllyyy lovely man :) flossie maybe <3 <3 <3 so lovely thank you guys can't thank you you enough xx :-D :-D

Dea

Dea Report 6 Aug 2014 15:06

The other one was Joseph !!!


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Joseph Entwhistle
Name: Joseph Entwhistle
Parish: Holbeck, St John and St Barnabas
Baptism Date: 9 Oct 1895
Father's Name: George Entwhistle
Mother's name: Mary Ellen Entwhistle

He was christened at the same time as Charles William, Robert George, and Annie.

Dea Xxx

EDIT - OOOps - I see RR has beat me to it (my browser keeps whiting out !!! Grrrrrrrrrr ).

Anyway, at least this confirms it.

Dea x

adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 15:04

so if i look for deaths of all the children i should see a result :-D

adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 15:01

thankyou so much nana will be over the moon :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Aug 2014 14:59

Possible missing child?

Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
Entwistle Joseph Holbeck 9b 319

Deaths Sep 1896 (>99%)
Entwistle Joseph 2 Holbeck 9b 196

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Aug 2014 14:55

10 of George and Mary Ellen's children ( from the 1901 and 1911 census) one presumably was born and died between the censuses.

Charles w Entwistle
George r Entwistle
Annie Entwistle
Ada Ellen
Edith Entwistle
William Entwistle
Flossie Entwistle

James Entwistle
Albert Entwistle
Alice Entwistle

Dea

Dea Report 6 Aug 2014 14:54

There seems to be :

Charles William born c1884
George Robert born c1886
Annie born c1888
Ada Ellen born c 1890
Edith, born c 1891
William born c 1897
Florence born c 1899
James born c 1904
Albert born c1906
Alice born c 1909

One still missing - I will take another look.

Dea x

adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 14:44

brilliants <3 its george roberts children that was confusing me theres 11 but 8 that survived but couldn't find an understanding of who his children were

we know james walter entwistle who married lily resulting in Barbara

then i think there was alice born bradford
albert edward 1906/1904 born in leeds
florrie or florrance
william

(mother and farther) george married mary ellen

who were the other children?
and there mother what was her last name was it ellen or is that her middle name / ? t

thank you for your help so far ;-)

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Aug 2014 14:33

The marriage certificate of Lily and James will give you her age and father's name to confirm, but i think this is probably her in 1911

1911 England Census about Lily Leadsford
Name: Lily Leadsford
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 20 Victory Street Leeds
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School
Registration district: Holbeck
Registration District Number: 502
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 27194
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Leadsford 26
Ethel A M Leadsford 27
Lily Leadsford 5
Richard Leadsford 1

yes it is

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about Lily Leadsford
Name: Lily Leadsford
Birth Year: abt 1906
Marriage or Bann Date: 14 Apr 1925
Parish: New Wortley, St Mary of Bethany
Father's Name: Thomas Leadsford
Spouse's Name: James Walter Entwistle
Spouse's Father's Name: George Robert Entwistle

adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 14:33

brilliant so then go to the household ?

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Aug 2014 14:29

This is a good way to learn how to use Freebmd,

you look for a marriage you are sure of

Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%)
Entwistle James W Leadsford Bramley 9b 649
Leadsford Lily Entwistle Bramley 9b 649

adelle

adelle Report 6 Aug 2014 14:21

Barbara entwistle
1930
leeds north yorkshire
mother lily leadsford 1906
dad james w entwistle married in leeds

so the census will tell me more than yes please any help is helpful :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 6 Aug 2014 14:17

A good place to start is from the last census, 1911, that tells you the total number of children born and number of those surviving. With luck you can work out who has died from the previous census detail. then you can look for deaths on Freebmd.org.uk , it is a really good site and easy to use when you have practiced a bit :-)

Dea

Dea Report 6 Aug 2014 14:15

OOOps - I didn't see you there Adelle.

The plan would be to start with your nana and work back steadily from her, keeping to parents and grandparents etc. to begin with.

Once you are sure that you have all those correct, then you can start to explore the siblings, one by one, working backwards and forwards on each of them individually.

Only then should you attempt to follow the families of the spouses etc.

Do you want us to make a start for you from your Nana ?

Dea x