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1 Aug 2014 11:15 |
Hi Grey Ghost Yes those records you've found are the ones I have. It's pre-1861 that's the problem. The 1881 census incorrectly gives her her husband's name as Thomas instead of Joseph. Alicia
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1 Aug 2014 11:12 |
Hi Ricochet
The witnesses at the marriage were Charles Bingham and Ellen Hawley. See the marrriage record above. No age given. But her age given in censuses in 1861, 1871 and 1881 are all consistent, as is the place of birth. Alicia
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1 Aug 2014 11:07 |
Hi Andy Interestiing John Marsh idea. One problem is that for this John Marsh to be at her marriage 21 years later he would have had to survive to 102. However maybe this marriage record doesn't require him to be at the wedding or even alive. What do you think?
Record set Derbyshire Marriages First name(s) Hannah Last name Marsh Age Full Age Marital status Spinster Occupation - Marriage year 1862 Marriage day 24 Marriage month Oct Place Brampton St Thomas Spouse's name (last, first) Bingham Joseph Father's name John Marsh Father's occupation School Master Witnessess Charles Bingham/Ellen Hawley Signed Signed Residence Brampton St Thomas County Derbyshire Country England Notes -
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1 Aug 2014 10:38 |
Same family 1871 with husband as Joseph. He is recorded as an Agent for ------- Cotton and from Clay Cross, Derbys
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Wardle Road South Street, Sale, Altrincham, Cheshire, England
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Bingham Head - Male 38 1833 - Derbyshire Hannah Bingham Wife - Female 42 1829 - Nottinghamshire <<<Mansfield George D Bingham Son - Male 4 1867 - Lancashire
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1 Aug 2014 10:34 |
latching on to Andy's find
Name: Hannah Cowley Gender: Female Christening Date: 26 Dec 1828 Christening Place: MANSFIELD,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND Mother's Name: Mary Cowley Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04486-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 504077, 504078
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1 Aug 2014 10:34 |
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Hannah Cowley
Name:Hannah Cowley Gender:Female Baptism Date:26 Dec 1828 Baptism Place:Mansfield,Nottingham,England Mother: Mary Cowley FHL Film Number:504077, 504078 Andy
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1 Aug 2014 10:31 |
Hi Alicia and welcome to the GR messages boards..
This entry for 1841 caught my eye.
John Marsh despite his age is a former schoolmaster (or at least that what it looks like) He could have been father for Hannah and she later took his name.
Hannah is correct age and in correct place.
1841 England Census about John Marsh
Name:John Marsh Age:81 Estimated birth year:abt 1760 Gender:Male Civil Parish:Mansfield Hundred:Broxtow (North Division) County/Island:Nottinghamshire Country:England Street address: Occupation: View image >>>>>Registration district:Mansfield Sub-registration district:Mansfield Neighbors: View others on page Piece:859 Book:4 Folio:34 Page Number:18 Household Members: Name Age
John Marsh 81 Mary Cowley 47 Hannah Cowley 12
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1 Aug 2014 10:30 |
Is this the Hannah you refer to? She is recorded as b 1829 and being from Mansfield but the husband is listed as Thomas not Joseph
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 32, Eastnor Street, Stretford, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England
Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Bingham Head Married Male 48 1833 Agent For Sewing Cotton & Silk 4 Men 2 Boys Clay Cross, Derbyshire Hannah Bingham Wife Married Female 52 1829 Agents Wife Mansfield, Nottinghamshire George D Bingham Son Single Male 14 1867 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire Thomas E Bingham Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Brooklands, Cheshire --------------------------------------------- And the marriage you refer to?
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription Print individual transcription View image Year Of Marriage 1862 First name(s) JOSEPH Last name BINGHAM Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1862 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOSEPH BINGHAM married one of these people SARAH TURNER, HANNAH MARSH Spouse's last name - District CHESTERFIELD County Derbyshire Country England Volume 7B Page 902
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1 Aug 2014 09:56 |
Who witnessed the marriage?
Did she give her age when she married?
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Alicia
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1 Aug 2014 09:29 |
Hannah Marsh (b. c1829 Mansfield Nottingham) is my g-g grandmother. She married Joseph Bingham on 24 Oct 1862 (Parish of St Thomas, Brampton, Chesterfield Derby). She died 1882 (Manchester Lancs). Please help me find her parents and siblings.
My main source of records is FindMyPast.co.uk. From Derbyshire marriage records I know her father was John Marsh (school master in 1862). From census records after her marriage I know her birth place was Mansfield, Nottinghamshire and she was born approximately 1829.
The only pre-marriage record I have found for her is the 1861 Census. In 1861 census she is 32 and visiting Mary Read (35) who has 2 small children in Dilhorne Staffordshire. Hannah's occupation is described as "formerly lady's maid" Born Mansfield Nottinghamshire. Another visitor of similar age and also formerly lady's maid is Sarah Beddows b. 1825, Dilhorne, Staffordshire.
I can't find her in the 1851 census when she is 22. There are 18 people called Hannah Marsh born between 1828 and 1830. None of them born in Mansfield Notts.
In the 1841 census there is only one Hannah Marsh out of 7 born between 1828 and 1830 who may have been born in Nottinghamshire (recorded as not born in Devon). This Hannah is a 12 year old servant working for a Devonshire farmer, surname Harris, and staying at the property there is also a 40 yo woman called Jane Marsh (not born in Devon, no recorded occupation, last record for that household) who could be related to this Hannah.
Where should I look next to find out who the parents of my Hannah Marsh are (bearing in mind that I live in New Zealand)? Thanks Alicia :-)
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