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Nicola

Nicola Report 10 Aug 2014 19:50

I always need help.
Been looking for the birth of John Beasley born 1880 and found a 1881 census for him (John Baseley) in Daventry aged 0, parents George and Mary Ann Baseley, other children Aaron, Phoebe,George, Julia with John the youngest.
Thinking this could be his family but found no other results to back it up?
So easy to follow the wrong trail.

Gee

Gee Report 10 Aug 2014 18:36

Nic

You're on the right trail, well done :-)

If you ever need further help, post back here

x

Nicola

Nicola Report 10 Aug 2014 18:01

great work finding the Beasley info, from that I have been able to find the Curryer's in the earlier census and the marriage of John Curryer and Caroline Pratt in 1878, Wycombe. Thanks Gins

Gee

Gee Report 8 Aug 2014 08:29

Hi Nicola

I've done some digging and I'm pretty sure that this is the marriage and parents of the above



Marriages Sep 1904

Beasely John Wycombe 3a 1751
Curryer Jane Mary Wycombe 3a 1751


Jane Mary/Mary Jane appears on censuses with parents John & Caroline up to 1901

Here she is with her husband



1911 Wales Census

Name:Jane Mary Beasley

Age in 1911:30

Estimated birth year:abt 1881

Relation to Head:Wife

Gender:Female

Birth Place:Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish:Swansea

County/Island:Glamorgan

Street address:12 Roseberry Terrace Landore N Swansea

Marital Status:Married

Years Married:9

Estimated Marriage Year:1902

Registration district:Swansea

Registration District Number:594

Sub-registration district:Llangafelach

ED, institution, or vessel:11
Household schedule number:70
Piece:32748

Household Members:


John Beasley 30 <<Northants.....Brick yard labourer
Jane Mary Beasley 30
Hilda Beasley 7 <<Buckinghamshire
Emily Francis Beasley 5 <<Buckinghamshire
Voilet May Beasley <<Oxfordshire

One child has died

Possible child that died



Deaths Dec 1907

BEASLEY Albert Lancaster 2 Wycombe 3a 459





Nicola

Nicola Report 7 Aug 2014 21:31

Related to the above I am looking for the parents of Gladys M Beasley born 1913, Alma Beasley born 1915, Margaret and Nellie Beasley born 1918, Ethel M Beasley born 1921, John H Beasley born 1923. All born in Swansea and mothers maiden name Currier, maybe more Beasley/Currier children including James Beasley who died aged 18 on a frozen lake? I have searched 1911 and BMD's with no results for a Beasley/Currier marriage?

Nicola

Nicola Report 6 Aug 2014 23:36

I have sent off for the marriage cert of John Mcmahon and Mary Foley in 1912, before I purchase his birth cert, confused about John's sister Teresa being born in Uk? and still yet to find Teresa's marriage to Mr Morland apparently in Ireland?
No doubt I will need your help again.
Thanks

Nicola

Nicola Report 2 Aug 2014 23:33

Thanks Gins again, I will send for birth cert to confirm but your info looks like this is the right family. Lesson learned family info is no more than a rough guideline.
Thanks again

Gee

Gee Report 2 Aug 2014 06:52

Hi Nicola

You would need to send for the birth certificate for John (1887) from the GRO Ireland to identify his parents

Are you sure Teresa was born in Ireland, I'm not seeing a birth for her, there is this?


Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906


Name:Teresa McMahon

Birth Date:18 Feb 1882

Baptism Date:24 Feb 1882

Parish:St Anne, Lancashire, England

Father's Name:Patritii Mcmahon

Mother's name:Maria Farrell



This looks like the parents (marriage) of the above


Liverpool, England, Catholic Marriages, 1754-1921

Name:Mariam Farrell

Marriage Date:8 Nov 1868

Parish:Oratory of St Philip Neri, Lancashire, England

Spouse's Name:Patricum McMahon

Father's Name:Edwardi

Spouse Father's Name:Joannis


Nicola

Nicola Report 1 Aug 2014 21:03

Thanks Gins for your help, i have asked the family and they don't have any more info about Theresa Birth or if there were more siblings.
They know? that she stayed in Ireland and married a Morland or similar spelling, I have spent quite a bit searching Rootsireland for john and Theresa with no results.
The most likely birth of John is the one that you found in Tulla in 1886.
Any advice you can offer me on where to go next to find their parents would be great.
Thanks again to all.

Gee

Gee Report 31 Jul 2014 06:15

Hi Nicola

Do you know when Theresa McMahon was born, roughly?

Did John (1887) have any other siblings that you know of?



Nicola

Nicola Report 30 Jul 2014 22:44

John McMahon born 1887 Ireland, married Mary Foley 1912, Birkenhead( all this info thanks to your help) John had a sister Theresa McMahon who married a Moreland(don't know correct spelling) and stayed in Ireland. Looking to find the parents of John and Theresa?
Info from family memories, so maybe well off the mark but need to check for a birth of John and Theresa birth and hopefully parents in confirm whereabouts these McMahon's came from.

Nicola

Nicola Report 30 Jul 2014 21:55

Thanks all especially Gins, can't believe I missed all that info on Free BMD.
I should know better, family memories are helpful but often well off the mark.
Have loads of info now to research.
Thanks again

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 14:37

You said John(1914) was one of five children. Here they are


England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Name:Daniel McMahon

Mother's Maiden Surname:Foley

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1916

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a

Page Number:794

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England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Name:Evelyn R McMahon

Mother's Maiden Surname:Foley

Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1920

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a

Page Number:923

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England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Name:Mary B McMahon

Mother's Maiden Surname:Foley

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1922

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a

Page Number:44

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name:Patrick J McMahon

Mother's Maiden Name:Foley

Registration Year:1913

Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume:8a

Page:911

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name:John McMahon

Mother's Maiden Name:Foley

Registration Year:1914

Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume:8a

Page:810

safc

safc Report 30 Jul 2014 13:46

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
99 Park St Birkenhead, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Callaghan Head Married Male 42 1869 Mersey Dock And Harbour Board Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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Mary Agnes Callaghan Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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James Callaghan Son Single Male 15 1896 General Labourer Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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Norah Callaghan Daughter Single Female 13 1898 - Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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William Callaghan Son Single Male 9 1902 - Birkenhead Co Cheshire
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John McMahon Boarder Single Male 24 1887 Genrl Labour Kerry Cahersiveen Resident xxxxxxxxxxx
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Thomas Callaghan Son Single Male 18 1893 Fireman Engine Man Birkenhead Cheshire

safc

safc Report 30 Jul 2014 13:44

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
49 Shrewsbury Road Oxton Birkenhead, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Richardson Head Married Male 34 1877 Branch Bank Manager Lancashire Liverpool
Image Transcription
Rachel Jane Richardson Wife Married Female 37 1874 - Lancashire Liverpool
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Rachel Joan Richardson Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Lancashire Formby
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William Richardson Son - Male 0 1911 - Cheshire Birkenhead
Image Transcription
Mary Foley Servant Single Female 25 1886 Cook Domestic Kerry Killorglin xxxxxxxxx
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Lilian Mary Harrison Servant Single Female 22 1889 Nurse Housemaid Domestic Cheshire Seacombe

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 13:42

Wonder if this is the father



Residents of a house 59 in Kildysart (Kildysart, Clare)


MacMahon Patk Joseph 51 Male Head of Family R Catholic
MacMahon Elliza 48 Female Wife R Catholic
MacMahon Mary Cate 21 Female Daughter R Catholic
MacMahon John 14 Male Son R Catholic
MacMahon Edward 13 Male Son R Catholic
MacMahon Francis 10 Male Son R Catholic
MacMahon Joseph 9 Male Son R Catholic
MacMahon Delia 4 Female Daughter R Catholic
McInerny Norah 18 Female Servant R Catholic
Patrick G K W 27 Male Lodger Church of Ireland

safc

safc Report 30 Jul 2014 13:34

Mariam Foley

Spouse

England, Cheshire Non-conformist Records, 1671-1900

marriage: 7 September 1912 Oxton, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

father: Danielis Foley
spouse: Joannem Mcmahon
other: Patritii Mcmahon



Name: Joannem Mcmahon
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Sep 1912
Event Place: Oxton, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age:
Marital Status:
Death Date:
Father's Name: Patritii Mcmahon
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Mariam Foley
Page:
GS Film number: 2149220
Digital Folder Number: 004019278
Image Number: 00196



Citing this Record:
"England, Cheshire Non-conformist Records, 1671-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KFLY-K1D : accessed 30 Jul 2014), Joannem Mcmahon and Mariam Foley, 07 Sep 1912; citing item4, Oxton, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2149220.

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 13:34

Was it the father that was born in Ireland? I'm not seeing him on any census


Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958


Name:John MacMahon

Date of Registration:
Apr-May-Jun 1886

Registration district:Tulla

Volume:4

Page:458

FHL Film Number:101061

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 13:25

Looks like all the children were born in Berkenhead

Wonder if this is Beatrice?



England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005


Name:Mary B McMahon

Mother's Maiden Surname:Foley

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1922

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a

Page Number:844


You can find them on freebmd

Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 13:11


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915


Name:John McMahon

Spouse Surname:Foley

Registration Year:1912

Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep

Registration district:Birkenhead

Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume:8a

Page:1328

Mary Foley