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1911 census
England and Scotland Census Transcription
29 Froddington Road Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

John Marsh Head Married Male Fruiterers Assistant 21 1890 Hants Portsmouth
Lydia Marsh Wife Married Female - 21 1890 Hants Portsmouth


Edit see this was previously posted but leaving as it's easier to refer back to

Dear Friends,
Thankyou for looking at my posts.
I have gained further info today regarding Lydia of which i would like to gain more info on
Lydia Bunday married John Marsh on the 22nd March 1911 at St Mary`s Church,Fratton
Lydia`s address at that time was 8 Hereford St
Her farther was Richard Bunday, a Mariner and Johns farther was Henry Marsh, a Fruitier
Ethel Bunday, her sister was a witness.
John was living 58 Town Street.
Would like to find info on Lydia`s passing and any help would be most welcomed
Also,were there any children
Thank you for your help and support.
Glenn.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1342958

Get a copy of Lydia's death cert, and find out who the informant was

use freebmd to look for children yourself (have you ever done so?)

And if you hope for further help, tell us how you imagine Susan is connected to you,
in which decade she is alleged to have been born, and why someone thinks her birth surname was marsh

Hi Flip,
It has come from chit chat with family members,but still could be usefull to make contact if any, with possible children from Lydia as we had no idea, if this is correct she ended up in Plymouth.I will pop back when more info comes my way.
Thankyou for your time,you have once again been most helpfull.
Glenn.
P.s Susan could be a child of Lydia`s,but like you unsure at this point.

Hi Glenn,

I'm struggling to find any connections - how exactly do you think a Susan Marsh is related to you please?

If it's from a family "story" then you probably can't rely on it - you need to research your family and back it up with evidence (ie certificates if necessary) not rely on hearsay of others whose memories may be flawed.

Even if you find living descendants of Lydia Charlotte A Marsh it will only give you what they remember - or think they remember!

Hi Ricochet,
Struggling at present with getting info on Susan,but would be good if i can trace any living members of Lydia Charlotte A Marsh as they may well be very beneficial in my search.

Yours in success,
Glenn.

Some factual data would be useful

Do you even know that Susan's birth name was actually Marsh?

I, frankly, doubt it

Have you done anything about looking for info yourself using freebmd?

Hi Ricochet,
Just noticed these items you have found.
They appear to be correct especially those connected to 8 Hereford Street.
Will come back when i have more info from relative.

If you're guessing that the 1887 birth is the woman who married marsh, why is there no mention of other names (apart from Lydia) on the marriage index?

although this could be her death

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) LYDIA CHARLOTTE A
Last name MARSH
Gender Female
Birth day 3
Birth month 10
Birth year 1887
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1982
District PLYMOUTH
County Devon
Volume 21
Page 1963
Country England

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29 Froddington Road Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Marsh Head Married Male 21 1890 Fruiterers Assistant Hants Portsmouth Image Transcription
Lydia Marsh Wife Married Female 21 1890 - Hants Portsmouth Image Transcription
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First name(s) Lydia
Last name Marsh
Relationship to household head Wife
Marital condition Married
Gender Female
Age 21
Birth year 1890
Occupation -
Birth place Hants Portsmouth
Address 29 Froddington Road Southsea
Parish Portsmouth
Registration district Portsmouth
County Hampshire
Country England
Subdistrict Portsmouth and Mid Southsea
Enumeration district 14

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
95, St Vincent, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Bunday Head Married Male 56 1825 Mariner Merchant Service Landport, Hampshire Image Transcription
Sarah Bunday Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Darlington, Durham Image Transcription
Richard Bunday Son Single Male 22 1859 Mariner (Merchant Seaman) Sunderland, Durham Image Transcription
Elizabeth Bunday Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Tailoress Southsea, Hampshire Image Transcription
Charlotte Bunday Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Servant General Domestic Southsea, Hampshire Image Transcription
Reuben Bunday Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Southsea, Hampshire Image Transcription
Elizabeth A Brewer Lodger Single Female 63 1818 Formerly Ladys Maid Southsea, Hampshire Image Transcription
Hannah Oliver Lodger Widow Female 58 1823 Formerly Housekeeper (Dom Serv) Ash, Surrey

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8 Hereford St Landport Portsmouth, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charlotte Bunday Head Married Female 50 1861 - Southsea Image Transcription
Ethel Bunday Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Kitchen Work Hants Southsea Image Transcription
Mable Bunday Daughter Single Female 17 1894 Brush Work Hants Landport Image Transcription

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8, Hereford Street, Town, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charlotte Bunday Head Married Female 44 1857 Washer Portsmouth, Hampshire Image Transcription
Charlotte Bunday Daughter - Female 13 1888 Box Maker Portsmouth, Hampshire Image Transcription
Evelyn Bunday Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Portsmouth, Hampshire Image Transcription
Ethel Bunday Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Portsmouth, Hampshire Image Transcription
Mable Bunday Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Portsmouth, Hampshire Image Transcription

Glenn

You aren't helping us to help you

you have given no proven facts relating to Susan. Everything you have posted about her alleged family is conjecture

As these appear to be your grandparents, I am at a loss to know why you gave the name as Bundy


Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%)
Bunday Ethel A Ford Portsmouth 2b 1052 Scan available - click to view
Ford George Bunday Portsmouth 2b 1052

Where is Susan supposed to fit in?
Where did you get her name from?

Not sure about this, as there is another Marsh/Bundy marriage in 1914 Sailsbury.

However, Lydia Bunday/John Marsh married 1911 and are on the 1911 census - married under 1 year no children declared.

They have 1 child Lydia M in 1912, who looks to have married in 1934 to Birch.

There are 2 possible children (but mmn Bundy) in 1914 John, and 1918 Ronald L in the Portsmouth area. Is it possible Susan is a child of one of the two sons? But this is getting quite remote from your grandmother Ethel!

I can't see anything in the British newspaper archives for Richard Bunday or his drowning - although it was only a quick look.

Hi Flip,just popped in quickly to see your info,yes this appears to be correct,Ethel is my dads mother,Mabel was killed in 1939
Richard, Charlotte`s husband, i am told drowned in London docks,but unsure. He was a mariner .

Will come back later.
Thankyou,
Glenn

Mother Charlotte has been mistranscribed on Ancestry as age 22, but she is claiming to be 50, married 24 years has had 5 children 3 are still living. 2 of the children are still with her - Ethel & Mabel - so was it Lydia Charlotte or Evelyn/Evalina that has died.

Still no sign of her husband!

Added so it was Evalina Kate E who died in 1906.

How have you gone from Susan Marsh back to this family please??

So, you are going by the 1901 census for Charlotte (age 13) & her mother Charlotte - are you sure you are looking at the right family?

Lydia Charlotte A Bundy was born Q4/1887 registered Portsea. (Lydia on 1891 census) Her parents married in Q3/1887, registered Portsea - Richard Bunday and Charlotte Elizabeth Durrell.

Father is not with them in 1891 or 1901 - but mother states she was born Portsmouth in 1857 and is married.

I will come back later with more info but any further help would be so welcomed.
Yours in success,
Glenn