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18 Jul 2014 06:03 |
i think you could do with getting a copy of the marriage certificate for Robert Cordell/Sarah to confirm their father's names are correct before going any further back with their ancestry.
Especially as I think he was originally Henry Robert rather than Robert H - and there is another Robert H born in 1900 in West Ham. He was Robert Hector (father William) who died in 1973 - although I think he married in 1929 to an Ada, it does put some doubts as to which is the correct one.
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18 Jul 2014 04:16 |
Thanks for the PM Linda, I haven't managed to find out anything on the other 2 children, Louisa and Amelia apart from their births.
However, I wonder if one of them was later known as Marie L Cordell - who looks to have married a Mr Noakes in 1965 - does this name ring any bells?
Sarah Alice Cordell seems to disappear but is on the 1964 ER living at 9 Leggatt Road, Stratford, along with Eileen and Marie L. Then in 1965 still at the same address but Eileen is no longer with them - she's with husband in Ilford.
I think she & Robert must have split up as he lives elsewhere. Although he married as Robert H, and his death in 1970 is also as Robert Henry I think he was originally Henry Robert, born in 1902. Almost sure this is him in 1911:
Robert H Cordell Age in 1911:9 Estimated birth year:abt 1902 Relation to Head:Son Gender:Male Birth Place:Bow, London, England Civil Parish:West Ham County/Island:Essex Country:England Street address:27 High Street, Stratford, Essex Marital Status:Single Occupation:school Registration district:West Ham Registration District Number:188 Sub-registration district:Stratford ED, institution, or vessel:1 Household schedule number:12 Piece:9342 Household Members: NameAge
George T Cordell 39 Louisa Cordell 34 Margaret Cordell 17 Grace Cordell 15 Amelia E Cordell 11 Robert H Cordell 9 George T Cordell 6
And his christening:
Henry Robert Cordell Record Type:Baptism Baptism Date:5 Mar 1902 Father's Name:George Thomas Cordell Mother's name:Louisa Cordell Parish or Poor Law Union:Bromley St Leonard St Mary Borough:Tower Hamlets Register Type:Parish Registers
Born 16/2/1902 - so whoever registered his death was a bit out on his age.
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16 Jul 2014 20:34 |
I'm not very comfortable about posting living people, but I got the Cossington birth wrong for Robert A- there was no middle initial. He was registered in1921 West Ham, looks to have married in 1949 (Poplar) to a Ms Courtnell - they had 4 children, (look for them on freebmd) between 1950-59). He died in Southend in 1997 (dob 26/6/1921).
The only other child I can find is Eileen, who may have married a Mr Cash in 1963. (Haven't looked for George T as obviously connected to your cousin) Cash/Cordell appear to have had a son and daughter.
Is there a chance the other two children emigrated, not seeing any obvious marriages/deaths for them?
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16 Jul 2014 18:54 |
Hi Linda,
Welcome back to your thread - so you are actually looking to come forward from the family maybe finding the children's marriages & descendants?
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16 Jul 2014 14:45 |
sorry all have just been through the posts again started back to work on monday playing catch up so havnt been on i know im supposed to stay on for so long so i do appologise to you all i will try to be better in the future no cakes to make for the next few weeks so will have more time i did thankyou all individually but forgot to do it on the thread just getting my head round it now will do that in future xxxlyn x
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16 Jul 2014 14:36 |
thankyou everyone this is much more than i ever expected and yes you have the right tree they never moved far from bow must have been creatures of habbit would it be possible to find anything nearer our generation if thats not pushing my luck too much it has all changed on here since i was on last doing my own for which i wii be eturnally greatfull for al you help then I have my family mostley sorted but my cousin knows nothing about the cordell side thankyou all again lyn x
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13 Jul 2014 20:16 |
Hi Linda
Thank you for your message.
Can you please confirm if we are on the right track?
Prickles. x
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13 Jul 2014 12:59 |
This might be connected to the witnesses on Henry and Martha's marriage record...
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Jonathan Cossington Name:Jonathan Cossington (Bachelor) Spouse Name:Elizabeth Burden (Spinster) Record Type:Marriage Event Date:4 Sep 1828 Parish:Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Borough:Tower Hamlets Register Type:Parish Register Witnesses: Francis Birch and Jane Cossington
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13 Jul 2014 12:47 |
I have already sent Linda a pm advising her of the info on here.
Dea x
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13 Jul 2014 12:39 |
Think we really need Linda to come back with some confirmation. The death for Sarah Cordell was much later than she thought - so are we actually on the right family?? I think we are, but who knows.
I'm thinking Robert A Cossington born in 1921 was "Nobby", Ada A born in 1925 died in infancy.
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13 Jul 2014 12:30 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Cossington Name:Henry Cossington (Bachelor) Spouse Name:Martha Fletcher (Spinster) Record Type:Marriage Event Date:25 Mar 1830 Parish:Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Borough:Tower Hamlets Register Type:Parish Register Witnesses: Johnathon and Elizabeth Cossington
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13 Jul 2014 12:14 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Henry Cossington Name:Henry Cossington Record Type:Baptism Baptism Date:9 Nov 1845 Father's Name:Henry Cossington Mother's name:Martha Cossington Parish or Poor Law Union:Bromley St Leonard St Mary Borough:Tower Hamlets Register Type:Parish Registers
On the same record are siblings......Jane, Matthew and Harriet.
Mistranscribed as Cottington in 1851......
1851 England Census about Henry Cottington Name:Henry Cottington Age:13 Estimated birth year:abt 1838 Relation:Son Father's Name:Henry Cottington Mother's name:Martha Cottington Gender:Male Where born:Bromley, Middlesex, England Civil Parish:Bromley St Leonard County/Island:Middlesex Country:England
Household Members:
Henry Cottington 50 Martha Cottington 41 John Cottington 20 Jane Cottington 17 Henry Cottington 13 Matthew Cottington 10 Rebecca Cottington 8 Harriett Cottington 6 Elizabeth Cottington 3 George Fletcher 26 >>>>Brother In Law
1861 England Census about Henry Cosington Name:Henry Cosington Age:52 Estimated birth year:1809 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Martha Cosington Gender:Male Where born:Bromley, Middlesex, England Civil Parish:Bromley County/Island:Middlesex Country:England Household Members:
Henry Cosington 52 Martha Cosington 51 John Cosington 30 Matthew Cosington 21 Rebecca Cosington 19 Harriett Cosington 16 Elizabeth Cosington 13 Margaret Cosington 30
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13 Jul 2014 12:00 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Cosington (Bachelor) Lime Burner....8 Marker Street Estimated birth year:abt 1837 Age:23 Spouse Name: Emily Biscoe (Spinster) 8 Marker Street Spouse Age:21 Record Type:Marriage Event Date:19 Aug 1860 Parish:Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Borough:Tower Hamlets Father Name:Henry Cosington (Lime Burner) Spouse Father:John Biscoe (Labourer) Register Type:Parish Register Witnesses: George Parkes and Lucy Biscoe
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13 Jul 2014 11:54 |
1881 England Census about Henry Cossington Name:Henry Cossington Age:44 Estimated birth year:abt 1837 Relationship to Head:Head Spouse:Emma Cossington Gender:Male Where born:Bromley, Middlesex, England Civil Parish:Bow County/Island:London Country:England Street address:3 Bakers Alley Marital Status:Married Occupation:Gen Lab Registration district:Poplar Sub-registration district:Bow
Household Members:
Henry Cossington 44 Emma Cossington 40 Emily Cossington 20 Henry Cossington 18 John Cossington 16 Martha Cossington 14 Sarah Cossington 12 David Cossington 10 Thomas Cossington 5 George Cossington 3 Elizth. Cossington
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13 Jul 2014 11:54 |
Thanks Dea - that worked for me too. Wonder why not showing on the normal search-retorical question, it's the stupid system :-P
Added: Don't you just love the occupation? Tallow & Bone Boiler :-D
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13 Jul 2014 11:33 |
Neither could I Flip - stupid Ancestry search system !!!!!
I found it eventually by clicking on the WW1 search - top right where it says '100'
Dea x
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13 Jul 2014 11:25 |
Think you're right Dea I hadn't looked closely at that 1911 image.
Don't know what I'm doing wrong - but I can't find that military record posted by Chris on ancestry :-S
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13 Jul 2014 11:16 |
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Thomas Henry Cossington Name:Thomas Henry Cossington Birth Date:7 Feb 1908 Document Year:1916 Relationship to Soldier:Child Form Title:Information Supplied By Recruit
Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier
Thomas Cossington Self (Head) Ada Carpenter Spouse Sarah Alice Cossington Child Elizabeth Emily Cossington Child Thomas Henry Cossington Child Nellike Alice Cossington Child
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13 Jul 2014 11:06 |
I believe this is 'Lissy's baptism from above - parents THOMAS and Ada of 8 Lee St., Stratford.:
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elizabeth Emily Cossington Name: Elizabeth Emily Cossington Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 5 Nov 1902 Father's Name: Thomas Cossington Mother's name: Ada Cossington Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers Born Oct. 15th 1902.
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13 Jul 2014 10:55 |
I really think this is them on 1911:
If you look at the image igt is very messy and the details of another family had been put in and crossed through.
The other family's head was a James. BUT if you look closely the first name of Mr Cossington looks to be TOMAS (obviously spelt incorrectly.
There is a son aged 3 at the bottom and that also says TOMAS and there is a birth at that time for a Thomas Henry which would fit.
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7a Lea S Stratford, West Ham, Essex, England Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Cossington Head Married Male 30 1881 General Carman - Ada Cossington Wife Married Female 29 1882 - - Sara Cossington Daughter - Female 10 1901 Scholar - Lissy Cossington Daughter - Female 9 1902 - - Tomas Cossington Son - Male 3 1908 - - Print individual transcription View image Individual transcription First name(s) Ada Last name Cossington Relationship to household head Wife Marital condition Married Gender Female Age 29 Birth year 1882 Occupation - Birth place - Address 7a Lea S Stratford Parish West Ham Registration district West Ham County Essex Country England Subdistrict Stratford Enumeration district 1 Census reference RG14 Census reference RG14PN9342 RG78PN505 RD188 SD1 ED1 SN68 Piece number 9342 Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
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