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I might be clutching at straws here.........

Gemma states on her tree that Francis had a brother Henry who was baptised at the same time.

Could this possibly Francis as Frank with brother Henry...

???

1911 England Census
about Frank Brindle
Name:Frank Brindle
Age in 1911:6
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1905
Relation to Head:Inmate
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Southampton, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Portsmouth
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Street address:
Parish of Portsmouth Children's Home, St Mary's Road, Kingston, Portsmouth
Registration district:Portsmouth
Registration District Number:90
Sub-registration district:Kingston and East Southsea


Henry Brindle 4
Frank Brindle 6


Edit:...There are no appropriate births registered for a Frank or Henry Brindle.

I bet it's them!

Louisa Bundle 33
Eileen Bundle 1/12 Portsmouth Hampshire

Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Brindle Eileen Portsmouth 2b 494

Hmmm, interesting Astra.

Posted above PH. She is in the workhouse in 1911.

Name: Louisa Bundle
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Parish of Portsmouth Workhouse,St Marys Road, Kingston, Portsmouth
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Housemaid Domestic
Registration district: Portsmouth
Registration District Number: 90

You have probably viewed it already but.........

A tree on Ancestry has the parents of Francis Albert as....

Henry Charles Cox 1879 Cork Ireland and Louisa Brindle 1879 Brighton

They didn't marry until 1917...

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Louisa Brindle Name:Louisa Brindle
Spouse Name: Henry Cox
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1917
Registration district:Portsmouth
Inferred County:Southampton
Volume Number:2b
Page Number:1016

Perhaps that is why Francis's mothers name was not on the birth cert?

Oddly........Louisa Brindle appears as a servant on the 1901 census and then there is no sign of her on the 1911 as Brindle or Cox.

It's a shame that we can't seem to find Francis Albert on the 1911 census.

Sooo maybe Henry, Louisa and Francis are together somewhere.........but where?

I just found a tree on Ancestry that has details of the Grainger/Cox family. They married in 1946 but began having children in 1934

His father Henry Charles Cox born 1879 Ireland
Mother Louisa Brindle born 1879 Brighton

Married in 1917!

In 1911 Louisa is in the Workhouse in Portsmouth with a daughter Eileen but there is no sign of a Francis.

Chris, I appear to have posted on there last year-yes that was me. At that time I hadn't ordered the certificate.

She was born in 1907 in Itchenor, West Sussex

The marriage certificate was ordered via the GRO. Doesn't give a dob. Just says 1904. Doesn't give a place of birth, but I remember seeing something at West Sussex records office saying Southampton birth. Father on certificate was Henry Cox, basket weaver. Doesn't give a mothers name. I did, however then decide to contact the Southampton archives who provided a date of birth, a baptism date and a potential mother, Louisa. They are just guesses on my ancestry tree. Would love to be able to confirm everything, but with nothing much on the marriage certificate it's not helpful. It is possible that he remarried, which is why I'm hoping there is someone on here that is descended from him through another marriage, as my great nan only had one child.
I was very young when my great nan and nan died. Can remember my great nan never left her bed. My nan died in London. Last time I saw her was in hospital and she had some toys for me and my sister. Sadly my younger siblings never got the chance to meet them. Strange the things you remember. Still haven't met anyone that beats my late nans cheesy mash!

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 ( Find My Past)
First name(s) ANNIE
Last name COX
Gender Female
Birth day 3
Birth month 6
Birth year 1907
Death quarter 3
Death year 1990
District CHICHESTER
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 18
Page 1467

(not sure if above, seems to be query also on below)

http://boards.ancestry.com.au/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=8844&p=localities.britisles.england.ssx.general

Chris :)

You could do with getting the actual marriage certificate, rather than just the bmd index to see who his father was and what his age was - that way we may be able to confirm the correct birth.

Added: but I see this has already been suggested.

Think this is the birth to go with Prickles death:


Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cox Francis Albert Southampton 2c 4

Is this your Great Nan's birth please?
(There's no image available so can't see mmn)


Name: Annie Ainger
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1915
Registration district: Westhampnett
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 357


Not seeing a birth to match the death that Prickles has posted.

Marriages Mar 1946 (>99%)
Grainger Norah C Cox Portsmouth 2b 1211

Possible child in 1949

TO Francis A Cox
Possible death for him above

and her possible death

Name: Norah Cecilia Cox
Birth Date: Oct 1913
Date of Registration: Feb 1986
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1033

You have his date of birth on your tree on Ancestry as 28/11/1904

So have you considered this

??


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Francis Albert Cox Name:Francis Albert Cox
Birth Date:26 Nov 1904
Date of Registration:Apr 1985
Age at Death:80
Registration district:Portsmouth
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:20
Page:565

Name: Anie Ainger
Spouse Surname: Cox, Frances A
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration district: Westhampnett
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1067
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Do you have the marriage certificate for his full name, age and father's name and occupation please?

Am looking for more on Francis Albert Cox. He was my great grandad. He was born in 1904 possibly in Southampton and married my great nan, Annie Ainger, in around 1931 in West Sussex (have been unable to find the church as the certificate just says Westhampnett district). My great nan and my nan (Babara Eileen Vivien Cox) died around 1992, within a very short time of each other. We know he carried on working in Chichester at the bus station, but he supposedly ran off with another woman. Would love to know where he went, whether he had any other children, got remarried etc as have been unable to find a divorce record etc.
He was a kitchen porter and then a chef, presumably the same cafe/restaurant. Possibly the same one as my great nan worked in.
They lived in Brightview Cottage in Wittering. For some reason, around the time that he ran off, the family purchased the cottage. Maybe the 2 were connected somehow? Would be great to find out. The West Sussex records office doesnt have much on him.