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11 May 2014 20:39 |
BRODIE, Robert. ASSAULTED Roundfield, Kilmartin Parish, Gamekeeper to Poltalloch, 36 in 1851 MCFARLANE, James. Slochavullain, Kilmartin Parish, Ground Officer, 64 in 1851
http://www.knapdalepeople.com/ArArichonanNameIndex.html
Re Arichonan: In 1848 the landowner terminated the leases of four of the tenant families but when police came to enforce the evictions the villagers, supported by others from surrounding townships, rioted. Eventually several were jailed.
http://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/argyll/arichonan.shtml
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Catfr2009
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11 May 2014 20:33 |
How do these Brodie's relate in???
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2014 20:26 |
Here's the family in 1851:
1851 Scotland Census about Robert Brodie Name: Robert Brodie Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1815 Relationship: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Brodie Gender: Male Where born: Arran, Island of Parish Number: 521 Civil Parish: Kilmartin County: Argyll Address: Rounfield Occupation: Gamekeeper To Poltalloch ED: 4 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 29 LINE: 11 Roll: CSSCT1851_111 Household Members: Name Age Robert Brodie 36 Elizabeth Brodie 28 Elizabeth Brodie 8 John Brodie 6 Robert Brodie 4 Margret Brodie 1 John Mclachlan 22 - assistant gamekeeper Mary McPhayden 22 - house servant James Allan 28 - plumber at new mansion
Can't find Robert & Elizabeth's marriage. This is the only feasible marriage anywhere in Scotland, but I would have expected Elizabeth to have been married in Minnigaff. And I can't find an Eliza(beth) McFarlane born in Minnigaff. On the other hand, it would give us the McFarlane connection , as James is listed as their nephew in 1881:
12/03/1842 BRODIE ROBERT ELIZA MACFARLANE/FR460 (FR460) M KILMARTIN /ARGYLL 521/00 0020 0269
(Actually, I find this fascinating. I know Poltalloch House - was beautiful, now in ruins. Built 1851-9. And there's James Allan, a plumber at the new mansion, living with the Brodies! )
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11 May 2014 19:52 |
Ahhhhh!!!! So exciting - That's got to be them!!!!!
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2014 19:45 |
I wonder if this is him, living with relatives?
1881 Scotland Census about James McFarlane Name: James McFarlane Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relationship: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow Registration Number: 521 Registration district: Kilmartin Civil Parish: Kilmartin County: Argyll Address: Nihall Cottage Occupation: Scholar ED: 5 Household schedule number: 8 LINE: 20 Roll: cssct1881_153 Household Members: Name Age Robert Brodie 53 - born "Kilbride G, Buteshire" Elizabeth Brodie 55 - born Minnigaff, Wigtownshire (it's actually in Kirkcudbrightshire) James Brodie 26 - born Kilmartin, West Indian planter James McFarlane 7 James McGilp 31 - under gamekeeper Barbara Demar 21 - general servant
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11 May 2014 19:41 |
There were 36 James McFarlanes born in Glasgow 1872-6.
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11 May 2014 19:37 |
I wonder if this could be the son James? Were he and George twins?? Though the GROS numbers aren't consecutive.
1876 MCFARLANE JAMES M KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0505
EDIT: No, he's no relation - I had a look. This is costing me a fortune - but I'm hooked!
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2014 19:19 |
Eureka!
1905 MCFARLANE GEORGE M 74 WEST KILBRIDE /AYR 620/00 0004 George died 5/1/1905 in West Kilbride. Widower of Jane Carruthers, married to Flora Baxter. Cause of Death: Tumour of bladder - 6 months. Informant: son James McFarlane, of 51 Breadalbane Street, Glasgow
So . . . possibly their marriage: 1872 MCFARLANE GEORGE CARRUTHERS JANE BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0049
Jane's death: 1876 MCFARLANE JANE CARRUTHERS F 33 KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0675
This is the birth of their son George: 1876 MCFARLANE GEORGE M KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 1112 Born 5 August 1876, at 11 Myrtle Street.
Presumably Jane died in childbirth, or shortly thereafter.
Can't tell if they had any other children. There are 641 McFarlanes born in Glasgow 1872-6, and can't search using mms. If there were others, they're not with their brother in 1881 or 1891. (ADDED: James, the informant re George's death, must be a son from the first marriage.)
In 1881 and 1891 he's living with his aunt Jeanie (nee McFarlane) and uncle: [EDIT: Just noticed, Alviegal already posted these on page 2.]
1881 Scotland Census about Geo McFarlane Name: Geo McFarlane Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relationship: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow Registration Number: 521 Registration district: Kilmartin Civil Parish: Kilmartin County: Argyll Address: Village Of Stockvultin ED: 4 Household schedule number: 46 LINE: 19 Roll: cssct1881_153 Household Members: Name Age John McVean 58 Jane McVean 57 Margt McVean 32 James McVean 21 Geo McFarlane 4
1891 Scotland Census about George McFarlane Name: George McFarlane Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relationship: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 521 Registration district: Kilmartin Civil Parish: Kilmartin County: Argyll Address: Slockvullin Occupation: Scholar ED: 4 Household schedule number: 40 LINE: 6 Roll: CSSCT1891_168 Household Members: Name Age John McVean 67 Jeanie McVean 66 George McFarlane 14
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11 May 2014 19:11 |
Jane's granddaughter has told us that her father mentioned an uncle George and uncle Jimmy who he said were his half uncles as it were so presumably these came from George's first marriage before Flora although who and where from I don't know as I haven't found any trace of them yet!
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Catfr2009
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11 May 2014 19:08 |
George married twice that much we know. I've found a possible wife by the name of Jessie with children Jessie and Alexander but whether they are right or not I don't know. We know about Flora and the two children Neil and Jane though.. Anybody have any idea who George's first wife could be? Not sure who the medallion belonged to as loads of them were called George by the looks of it!!
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rootgatherer
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11 May 2014 15:10 |
If George died died in Scotland, his death certificate may give the name of his first wife if the informant knew the details. I suspect there were children from his first marriage as the son from the second marriage was named for Flora's father which is unusual for Scots at that time.
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2014 14:40 |
George in 1851:
1851 Scotland Census about George Macfarlan Name: George Macfarlan Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Macfarlan Gender: Male Where born: Kilmartin, argyle Parish Number: 521 Civil Parish: Kilmartin County: Argyll Address: Slockvullin Occupation: Ap House Carpenter ED: 4 Page: 6 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 18 LINE: 11 Roll: CSSCT1851_111 Household Members: Name Age James Macfarlan 63 Ann Macfarlan 21 George Macfarlan 19 James Macfarlan 15 Mary A McKechnes 14 James Kerr 55 Dickson Kerr 20 John Kerr 17
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2014 14:20 |
There's this one - he's a carpenter. It doesn't say if he's single, married, or widowed. No other McFarlanes listed with him:
1861 Census of Canada about George Mcfarlane Name: George Mcfarlane Gender: Male Age: 30 Birth Year: 1831 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1861: Ramsay, Lanark, Canada West Religion: Free Church Film Number: C-1043 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age George Mcfarlane 30
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11 May 2014 14:13 |
EDIT: Oops - already posted by Alviegal.
George in 1871, but without spending more credits on SP, can't see if he was a widower then or not:
1871 Scotland Census about George Mcfarlane Name: George Mcfarlane Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Kilmartin, arengleshire Registration Number: 644/7 Registration district: Milton Civil Parish: Glasgow St George County: Lanarkshire Address: 79 Grove Street Occupation: Joiner ED: 7 Household schedule number: 71 LINE: 6 Roll: CSSCT1871_134 Household Members: Name Age Robert Marshell 40 Ann Marshall 36 Agnes Marshell 14 George Mcfarlane 38 Thomas Boyd 18 George Boyd 24 Peter Millen 21
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2014 13:32 |
I've had a look at George & Flora's marriage cert, and yes, you're right, rootgatherer, it was George's second marriage, as he was a widower(age 49). Flora was a spinster, age 38 (though she was actually 35).
George's usual address: Sea Mill, West Kilbride; Parents: James McFarlane, ground officer, deceased, and Elizabeth McFarlane, ms Bell, deceased.
Flora's address: Daltote, North Knapdale. Parents: Neil Baxter, farmer, deceased, and Mary Baxter, ms McAlpine.
So this is Flora's birth, and not the one I posted further up this page:
15/01/1850 BAXTER FLORA NEIL BAXTER/MARGARET MCALPINE FR327 (FR327) F NORTH KNAPDALE /ARGYLL 530/00 0020 0157
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rootgatherer
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11 May 2014 09:55 |
Still think it unlikely that the medal would have belonged to Jane's father. He would have been 90 in 1927. When did he die please? Was his marriage to Flora a second marriage and if so did he have children from his first marriage?
There are a few Scots born George McFalanes on the 1930 and 1940 Detroit census.
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2014 08:46 |
Perhaps he was there for the St Andrew's Society Picnic, or the Scotch Picnic, August 18th?
http://cec.chebucto.org/ClosPark/Boblo.html
That year (1927) The United Commercial Travelers held their first ever picnic at Bob-Lo. It attracted 5,000. Other picnics mentioned for that season were The United States Naturalization Bureau, The Police Lieutenants (August 8th), and The Scotch Picnic and St. Andrew's Society Picnic, both held August 18th. The Scotch Picnic drew 12.000. Events included a parade with participants in traditional costume, bagpipe contests, and sport games like the caber toss.
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2014 08:40 |
In that case I would guess the "medal" is some sort of novelty souvenir bought at this funfair:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boblo_Island_Amusement_Park
George was likely just on holiday, or visiting relatives.
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11 May 2014 06:38 |
This Bob-low?
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ffdEsKTApSoC&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=bob-low+detroit&source=bl&ots=BJYWAkuu9U&sig=rZgWjhmcTZf0rKcqy_tiEa3V9KI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zQtvU__fHMPBOKu3gaAI&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=bob-low%20detroit&f=false
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11 May 2014 00:32 |
We've finally worked out what the medal says - "Longest distance travelled Glasgow to Bob-low 18th August 1927. George McFarlane"
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