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brummiejan
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17 Apr 2014 11:42 |
You really need to just confirm the death record so there is no ambiguity. Not this one? I know it's Lancashire!!
Name: George Taylor Birth Date: 20 Nov 1896 Date of Registration: Dec 1970 Age at Death: 74 Registration district: Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10e Page: 95
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brummiejan
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17 Apr 2014 11:45 |
When and where did George marry the first time? Jan
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2014 15:52 |
He died 1970 march but at that time we did not know how old he was and were he was born so the registra told us to guess, so we did and it was wrong. Sorry Cathy
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2014 15:54 |
George Taylor married the first time Wandsworth 1937 Cathy
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Mavis
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17 Apr 2014 18:11 |
If you have a copy who are the witnesses please
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patchem
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17 Apr 2014 18:20 |
Are you saying he was 41 before he first married?
Sorry, still cannot see his death - where was it registered?
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patchem
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17 Apr 2014 18:25 |
This marriage? George E Taylor Spouse Surname: Fielder Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1937 Registration district: Wandsworth Inferred County: Surrey Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 915
or George J Taylor Spouse Surname: Spurr Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1937 Registration district: Wandsworth Inferred County: Surrey Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 1118
or George R Taylor Spouse Surname: Harries Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1937 Registration district: Wandsworth Inferred County: Surrey Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 1275
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brummiejan
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17 Apr 2014 18:39 |
Catherine. you say:
'He died 1970 march but at that time we did not know how old he was and were he was born so the registra told us to guess, so we did and it was wrong'
What was wrong? Where did he die? Who did he marry?
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2014 19:18 |
George Taylor died 10 March 1970 Wharfdale. Yes he was 40yrs when he first married, thats IF she was his first wife I have found no proof of that, but 40yrs it could be. Yes he married Mary Spurr and the witnesses were R C West and his wife M E West. They were also my husbands god parents, but they never signed there first names. He called himself George James at one time, but his wife found out it wasnt his name, he was just George. Cathy
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patchem
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17 Apr 2014 20:11 |
How does she know that he was not George James, but just George?
Did he say that he had added a middle name since he was named by his parents?
This death? George James Taylor Birth Date: 21 Nov 1904 Date of Registration: Mar 1970 Age at Death: 65 Registration district: Wharfedale Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2d Page: 2240
Added: You said that his birth date was guessed at, which would explain the discrepancy in birth years?
Copied over from previous page: 'Unfortunatly as we didnt know at the time anything about his details we were told to guess, so the death certificate is no help at all, as its wrong.'
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brummiejan
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17 Apr 2014 21:10 |
Yet another question! How do you know the George on that school record is him? Jan
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Catherine
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17 Apr 2014 22:29 |
Yes my husbands mother found out he was just George by birth ( I dont know how ) and that he was 40yrs when he married her, I wish we had asked more now but it happens; and its not till you realy need to find something, that its usualy too late when you cant get the answers ....... I wish I had asked ... . How do I know this is George Taylor on the school records, because it matches what my husbands mother told us the birth date was right and the fathers name was right. Also its the only time we have found the right birth date, all others have been march September july etc, we have never found any other, and he did say he went to St Micheals school, and he lived Lambeth. Cathy
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Mavis
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17 Apr 2014 22:47 |
Nealdon Street is a street within Stockwell Green - Lambeth
The George Taylor - father James birth date 21st Nov 1896 is more than likely George Henry Taylor birth date 21st Nov 1897 who died 1977 Maidstone.
George Henry Taylor - Lambeth district Mar Q 1898 - birth not reg. till the end of Dec 1897 so was in Mar Q 1898
your George may be this one of Battersea which comes under Wandsworth
1901
James Taylor 44y Labourer birth NK Mary Taylor 39y -------------- " ---- " Mary J Taylor 18y ------------- " ---- " Joseph Taylor 13 y ---------- " ---- " Edward Taylor 9y ------------ " ---- " George Taylor 5 y ----------- " ---- "
1911 Rashleigh Street
James Taylor 53y Labourer born Chelsea Mary Jane 49y ------ born Chelsea Edward 18y ----- born Battersea George 15y ----- born Battersea
married 32y 6 children 5 alive
Battersea St Phillips 5th May 1879 James Taylor 21y Labourer - Queens Road -father Stephen -Bricklayer Mary Jane Page 19y Ironer - 5 Ingrame? father William- Policeman
James Taylor mark X - Mary Jane Page signed
witnesses Jane Taylor X - Edward Taylor
George Taylor born 26th March 1896 Baptised 28th Sep 1896 St Peters Battersea to James and Mary Jane Taylor Builders Labourer
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brummiejan
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17 Apr 2014 23:01 |
Have you considered this one? Not sure how you would prove it was yours though!
1901 England Census Name: George Taylor Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: J G Taylor Mother: Ellen Taylor Birth Place: Stockwell, London, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Herne Hill County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 48 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 431 Folio: 174 Page Number: 37 Household schedule number: 230 Household Members: Name Age J G Taylor 40 Ellen Taylor 32 Ellen Taylor 9 George Taylor 7 Mabel Taylor 5 William Taylor 2 Robert Taylor 1
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18 Apr 2014 06:45 |
You "know" he was married three times so were numbers two and three after he married Mary Spurr?
What status did he give on the 1937 marriage?
What age on the marriage?
That Wharfdale death - is it the correct one? If so, there's an eight year discrepancy
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patchem
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18 Apr 2014 07:54 |
You said that he was 40 when he married your husband's mother (the 1937 marriage presumably). But this was his first marriage. So why was it your family who registered his death, not his third wife?
Were all 3 wives in contact, did they have any further information about him?
Thank-you
Does your husband not know the names of his godparents R C and M E West?
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Catherine
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18 Apr 2014 21:13 |
George Taylor died 1970 Wharfedale. George Taylor married Mary Spurr 1937 stating he was 28yrs. In 1938 when my husband was born, Mary found out he was 40yrs when they married. Wife No 2 and 3 were the same lady, he stated he was 43yrs 1948 then in 1952 he again married her and he stated he was 49yrs. As far as we know the 1937 was his first 1st marriage, but we would not be suprised if this was not so, but we have no proof one way or anoughther. When George Taylor died in 1970, we were asked by his wife to do all the arangments, she knew no more than we did. Cathy
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19 Apr 2014 07:37 |
OK so guessing 1948 marriage was in Rotherham and he has a middle initial of G
1952 marriage was in Oldham
Is wife 2/3 still alive?
What makes you think he was actually born in London?
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patchem
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19 Apr 2014 08:28 |
The school admission says that previously he was at Hackford R* - have you looked for those records?
Added: This is of no help, but of general interest, and I like the definitions of poverty on the Poverty map: http://ovalhistory.co.uk/a-guide-to-each-street-in-my-project/hackford-road/
Hackford Road school -file missing or unfit for consultation (as is Stockwell)? http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=074-lcc_12-2&cid=1-1-1-957#1-1-1-957
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Catherine
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20 Apr 2014 20:06 |
2nd and 3rd mar/ Annie Lamborne, was in Wharfedale were he died. We do not know if he was born London or not, but he alway;s spoke with a London accent, that never changed even t hough he spent the years after he moved to Yorkshire, but that does not mean he was born a Londoner, there is nothing like children for picking up accents. I thought that may be the case, with both Hackford Rd School and Stockwell as I have been looking for them. I have one address that he lived at but I am not sure when - sometime between 1937 - 1940 35 Grandvel Road, and we know they lived above a fish and chip shop, also in that time period in Tooting ? but that address we dont know. Thank you for all your reply's I do appreciate them, my husband would so love to know who his family were, and he is now well into his 70s and not in good health so thank you all. Cathy
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