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Marriage of Edmund Stiles and Elizabeth Westley

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JANICE

JANICE Report 21 Mar 2014 15:22

Edmund Stiles was born in London 1865 and died in Walsall 1944. Elizabeth was born in Walsall 1870 and died in Walsall 1946 I can find them on all the census's but have been unable to find a marriage for them. On the 1911 census it states they have been married for 21 years. Help with finding a marriage for them would be much appreciated. I am also trying to trace the death of Edmund's father also
Edmund Stiles born in Kempsey, Worcestershire in 1838 married Elizabeth Jones in London in 1862, they had three children Edmund, Margaret and Emma. The last record I can find of him is the 1881 census age 43 living with a Fanny Stiles as his wife but I believe he was still married to Elizabeth and Fanny was actually Cousen nee Earnshaw
Can anyone help me please
Janice

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:30

Look for BMD records at..............

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:33

For INFO

1901 census

Person: STILES, Edmund Address: 67, Mill Street, Walsall

STILES, Edmund Head Married M 36 1865 Groom (Domestic)
London VIEW
STILES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 30 1871
Walsall, Staffordshire VIEW
STILES, William Son M 4 1897
Walsall, Staffordshire VIEW
STILES, Margaret Daughter F 9 1892
Walsall, Staffordshire VIEW
STILES, Ellen Daughter F 7 1894
Walsall, Staffordshire VIEW
STILES, Hilda M Daughter F 3 1898
Walsall, Staffordshire VIEW
STILES, Elizabeth Mother Widow F 59 1842 Monthly Nurse
Carmarthenshire, S Wales

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:39


1881 census


Person: STILES, Edmd Address: 419, Strand, St Martin In The Fields


STILES, Edmd Head Married M 43 1838 Theatrical Manager
Kempsey, Worcestershire VIEW
STILES, Fanny Wife Married F 44 1837
Kirkburton, Yorkshire VIEW
STILES, Lydia Daughter Single F 11 1870
Huddersfield, Yorkshire VIEW
STILES, Freddy Son Single M 8 1873
Huddersfield, Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Ellen Step Daughter Single F 15 1866
Huddersfield, Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Lewis Step Son Single M 22 1859 Watchmaker
Kirkburton, Yorkshire

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 21 Mar 2014 15:39

Reggie we are looking for the marriage ... I,ve tried BMD and it doesnt show yet!!


Janice the name could be spelt differently

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:42

1871 census

Person: STILES, Edmund Address: Gloucester Road St Mark Place, Cheltenham

STILES, Edmund Head M 30 1841 Worcestershire VIEW**********Occupation: Carpenter
STILES, Lizzie Wife F 30 1841 Carmarthenshire VIEW
STILES, Margret Daughter F 7 1864 London VIEW
STILES, Edmund Son M 5 1866 London VIEW
STILES, Emma G Daughter F 2 1869 Gloucestershire VIEW
CROOK, Eliza Boarder F 37 1834 Gloucestershire VIEW
CROOK, Arthur Boarder M 7 1864 Gloucestershire VIEW
CROOK, George Boarder M 2 1869 Gloucestershire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:45

STILES Emma G STILES STILES JONES 1868 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 60 284

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:49

Perhaps he followed his father's example!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:49

1871 census

Person: COUSEN, Lewis Address: Birks Mill, Almondbury, Huddersfield

COUSEN, John Isaac Head M 39 1832 Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Fanney Wife F 36 1835 Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Lewis Son M 12 1859 Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Mary Hannah Daughter F 10 1861 Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Thomas Son M 8 1863 Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Sam Son M 6 1865 Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Ellen Daughter F 5 1866 Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Lydia Daughter F 1 1870 Yorkshire VIEW
COUSEN, Harry Son M 0 1871 Yorkshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:51

Interesting that LYDIA appears as both Cousen and Stiles

I can't think that Edmund was her father, in spite of the census info


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Mar 2014 15:55

Janice's Edmund in 1881 - with his mother

Name: Edmund Stiles
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship to Head: Son
Mother: Elizabeth Stiles
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Court 5 House Duncalf St
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2826
Folio: 95
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Stiles 39, Wife, Married
Edmund Stiles 15
Amy G. Stiles 12

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:55

Deaths Jun 1874 (>99%)
Cousen Harry 3 Huddersfield 9a 250

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:58

Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
Cousen Fred Huddersfield 9a 341

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 15:59

Where did you find out the maiden name of the woman claiming to be married to Edmund jnr?

JANICE

JANICE Report 21 Mar 2014 16:00

Hello Reggie.
Do you think I have gone wrong somewhere along the line and they are not the same Edmund Stiles I did not think there was a marriage for Edmund and Fanny
and that the children listed on the 1881 were not Edmunds children but were John and Fanny Cousen children. On the 1882 census for Elizabeth Stiles it shows her as still married.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 16:08

Deaths Jun 1875 (>99%)
Cousen John Isaac 43 Huddersfield 9a 268

JANICE

JANICE Report 21 Mar 2014 16:10

Hello Reggie Elizabeth Westley is my gt grandmother and had the information from my late mother.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 16:11

There is no marriage - as far as I can see - for Edmund and Fanny.

As Elizabeth was still alive in 1901, that isn't surprising......

There was a lot of 'funny business' going on !

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 16:23

What documentary proof did your mother offer for the maiden name?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2014 16:28

I can find Lewis in later censuses, and this for Ellen

Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
COUSEN Ellen Huddersfield 9a 529
KAYE Henry Huddersfield 9a 529

...............but, of the others from 1881, I can see no trace.

Perhaps someone with younger eyes will have more luck.............