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1911 census transcription details for: 33 Prospect Row Woolwich

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN2870 RG78PN98 RD30 SD2 ED13 SN193
Reg. District: Woolwich
Sub District: Woolwich
Parish: Woolwich
Enum. District: 13
Address: 33 Prospect Row Woolwich
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
SUTER, John Richard Head Married M 39 1872 Coal Porter Woolwich Kent
SUTER, Christina Wife Married 19 years F 38 1873 Woolwich Kent
LINDSAY, Aleander Nephew Single M 23 1888 Coal Porter Plumstead Kent
SUTER, John Edward Son Single M 17 1894 Coal Porter Woolwich Kent
PIXTON, Albert Boarder Single M 17 1894 Coal Porter Woolwich Kent

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Marriages Jun 1893

King Susan Annie M W.Ham 4a 32
Nutland James W. Ham 4a 32
Nutland Janes W. Ham 4a 32
Spratt Christina Elizabeth W. Ham 4a 32
Suter John Richard W. Ham 4a 32

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Nelly Maud Lindsay Name:Nelly Maud Lindsay
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1889
Registration district:Woolwich
Inferred County:London
Volume:1d
Page:1233

Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
COWING Robert Milburn Coventry 6d 1052
LINDSAY Nellie Maude Coventry 6d 1052


Household transcription
1911 census


Person: COWING, Nelly Maud
Address: 110 Orchard Road Plumstead

COWING, Robert Milburn Head Married M 32 1879 Town Postman Plumstead Kent VIEW
COWING, Nelly Maud Wife Married3 years F 21 1890 Plumstead Kent VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 2908
Reference: RG14PN2908 RG78PN100 RD30 SD4 ED4 SN233
Registration District: Woolwich
Sub District: Plumstead East
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Plumstead
Address: 110 Orchard Road Plumstead
County: London

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Civil Registration event: Death

Name: LINDSAY, Patrick A
Registration district: Brighton
County: Sussex
Year of registration: 1950
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 82
Volume no: 5H
Page no: 123

Patrick in 1901

1901 census transcription details for: 19, Sladedale Road, Plumstead

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 574
Folio: 117
Page: 17
Reg. District: Woolwich
Sub District: Plumstead East
Parish: Plumstead
Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District: St Mark
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 19, Sladedale Road, Plumstead
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LINDSAY, Patrick Head Married M 34 1867 Blacksmiths Forge LabourerWoolwich
LINDSAY, Ellen Wife Married F 27 1874 Scotland
LINDSAY, Alexander Son Single M 13 1888 Plumstead
LINDSAY, Nellie Daughter Single F 11 1890 Plumstead

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Patrick Alexander Lindsay Name:Patrick Alexander Lindsay
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1896
Registration district:Woolwich
Inferred County:London
Volume Number:1d
Page Number:2196

Records on Page:

Ellen Dixon
Patrick Alexander Lindsay

Patrick on the 1901..

He seems to have a new wife Ellen born in Scotland.

1901 England Census
about Nellie Lindsay Name:Nellie Lindsay
Age:11
Estimated birth year:abt 1890
Relation to Head:Daughter
Gender:Female
Father:Patrick Lindsay
Mother:Ellen Lindsay
Birth Place:Plumstead, Kent, England
Civil Parish:Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish:St Nicholas
County/Island:London
Country:England
Registration district:Woolwich
Sub-registration district:Plumstead East
ED, institution, or vessel:17


Household Members:

Patrick Lindsay 34 (Blacksmiths Forge Labourer)
Ellen Lindsay 27 Scotland
Alexander Lindsay 13
Nellie Lindsay 11

1891 census transcription details for: 28, Glenister Street, East Ham

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1341
Folio: 161
Page: 29
Reg. District: West Ham
Sub District: East Ham
Parish: East Ham
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns N Woolwich
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 28, Glenister Street, East Ham
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LINDSAY, Alex Head Married M 25 1866 Labourer Woolwich, Kent
LINDSAY, Nellie Wife Married F 21 1870 Tailoress Palmstead, Kent
LINDSAY, Alex Son M 3 1888 Palmstead, Kent
LINDSAY, Nellie M Daughter F 1 1890 Palmstead, Kent


For Palmstead read Plumstead!!!

Perhaps Mum was having an off day re who was born when!

1881 census transcription details for: 14, Mount St, Woolwich

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 747
Folio: 112
Page: 19
Reg. District: Woolwich
Sub District: Woolwich Arsenal
Parish: Woolwich
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 14, Mount St, Woolwich
County: London, Kent
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LINDSAY, Mary Head Widow F 48 1833 No Occupation Ireland
LINDSAY, Alexander Son Single M 21 1860 Laborer In Iron Works (Mfr) Woolwich, Kent
LINDSAY, Samuel Son Single M 14 1867 Woolwich, Kent

PricklyHolly, Thank you for James Dymott's birth

Rose

ArgyllGran if it is not too much of a cheek to ask..is it possible to find

Samuel Lindsay born 1859 page 596 vol 1d..Last census 1881

Alexander Lindsay (think he was born Patrick A) his mother appears to have mixed up their ages on the 1881 census! Havent been able to find them since.

Did either marry?

Thank you

Rose

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about James Dymott Name:James Dymott
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:7 May 1854
Baptism Place:East Wickham,Kent,England
Father:Stephen Dymott
Mother: Mary Ann
FHL Film Number:992529

From FMP - a mixture of Ellen/Ellyn and Linzey/Lenzer as per the 1871 from Argylgran. Really does show how names were distorted, no wonder some can never be found!! At least Alexander's age was as per original.

1871 census transcription details for: Howard's Buildings, Woolwich

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 778
Folio: 14
Page: 22
Reg. District: Woolwich
Sub District: Woolwich Dock Yard
Parish: Woolwich
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Howard's Buildings, Woolwich
County: London, Kent
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LINZEY, Alexander Head M 42 1829 Ireland
LINZEY, Mary Wife F 40 1831 Ireland
LINZEY, Ellen Daughter F 16 1855 Kent
LINZEY, Margaret J Daughter F 14 1857 Kent
LINZEY, Lucy Daughter F 9 1862 Kent
LINZEY, Samuel Son M 12 1859 Kent
LINZEY, Patrick A Son M 4 1867 Kent

AryllGran Thank you so much for all the census information. Will need to order Elinor's birth certificate to confirm parents and if it is she, you have now provided me all the information I need, wow!!

Thank you so much for your help

Rose

1871, for the record:


1871 England Census about Ellyn Lenzer (I think the census clerk has written Linzey, on the image)
Name: Ellyn Lenzer

Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alexander Lenzer
Mother's name: Mary Lenzer
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Woolwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Woolwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Woolwich Dockyard
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 141
Piece: 778
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Lenzer 32 (actually 42 on image) - labourer in factory
Mary Lenzer 40
Ellyn Lenzer 16 - factory girl
Margaret J Lenzer 14
Lucy Lenzer 9
Samuel Lenzer 12
Patrick R Lenzer 11

Depends who the informant was, Rose, and whether they knew the spelling of her birth name.
Or maybe the registrar's idea of how it should be spelled.

Stuart, yes this is the family.

Argyllgran didnt notice that marriage! Would she really have become Helonora on death cert?

Thank you

Rose

1891 England Census about Ellen Deynott
Name: Ellen Deynott
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Deynott
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead, East
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 539
Folio: 42
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
James Deynott 36
Ellen Deynott 35
Florence E Deynott 11
Edith E Deynott 10
Stephen J Deynott 8

Alexander and Mary appear to have married in Greenwich RD and the other 2 children's births registered there. I cannot see an Elinor/Eleanor Lindsay in the 1861 census nor a death between 1855 and 1861. So I would suspect the Elinor birth.

If you order the certificate for Elinor from GRO and say you don't know the reference number then there is the option to complete parents details. If incorrect then the certificate will not be despatched to you and your money will be refunded I believe.

Can't see her in 1871 census

1911 England Census about James Dymott
Name: James Dymott
Age in 1911: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Father
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wickham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Plumstead
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 11 Helen Street, Plumstead
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: BORO COUNCIL LABORER
Registration district: Woolwich
Registration District Number: 30
Sub-registration district: Plumstead West
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 2884
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Henry Stannard 31
Edith Ellen Stannard 30
Herbert Edward Stannard 5
George Thomas Stannard 3
James Dymott 56

1901 England Census about Ellen Dymoth
Name: Ellen Dymoth
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: James Dymoth
Birth Place: Woolwich, London, England
Civil Parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 573
Folio: 58
Page Number: 42
Household schedule number: 299
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dymoth 46
Ellen Dymoth 45
Edith Dymoth 20
Stephen Dymoth 18