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Adam MORTON b.1826 Darvel SCO & Janet YOUNG to CAN

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Glenys

Glenys Report 18 Mar 2014 11:16

Thanks for mgnv for supplying Directory info
and to Gins - Robert Edward MORTON d. A April 1891 and is in the Glenwood Cemetery in Flint, Genesse MI. Found him there yesterday on FindaGrave:
Morton, Robert E 119706229
b. Jun. 2, 1850 d. Oct. 7, 1891 Glenwood Cemetery
Flint
Genesee County
Michigan, USA

and his wife Sarah Jane MORTON is in the same cemetery.

Why a name change from Herbert Adam MORTON to Adam Dyson MORTON? Would his (1891) death cert. give his date of birth rather than just his age? Curious as I cannot locate his death Herbert's cert. or any other info on him.

Adam Dyson MORTON youngest sibling, Joy Fay MORTON was just 4 years of age when her mother died and 6 when he father died and is enumerated with her Uncle back in Brampton in the 1891 census.

Would there have been a naturalization cert. issued? Canada / America and then America / Canada??

still looking for a living relative.....

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Mar 2014 10:35

I agree with Gins that Herbert Adam became Adam Dyson. One wonders why and where did the name Dyson come from?

Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2014 07:38

Herbert and Adam are the one and same person!


Name: Herbert Adam Marton
Mother: Sarah Jane Trueman
Father: Robert E Marton
Birth: 10 May 1874 - Peel <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Name: Adam Dyson Morton
Mother: Sarah Morton
Father: Robert Morton
Birth: abt 1875 - Ontario <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<DOB 10 May 1874
Death: 30 Mar 1938 - York, Ontario, Canada


I have been looking at this for a possible death for Robert E Morton?

Can't see this person on any records in the area of MI, thinking the R has been mistranscribed to an 'L'

Maybe the informant entered the wrong details (in respect of his marital status) at the registration of his death?



Michigan, Deaths and Burials Index, 1867-1995


Name:L. Morton

Birth Date: abt 1850

Birth Place:Scotland

Death Date:7 Oct 1891 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Death Place:Borg..., Kalamazoo, Michigan

Death Age:41

Occupation:Contractor

Race:White

Marital Status:Married

Gender:Male

FHL Film Number:984130

mgnv

mgnv Report 18 Mar 2014 05:41

I was hoping to find him in 1911 - at least we'ld get his birth month, but...

Toronto city directory
1914
https://archive.org/stream/torontodirec191400midiuoft#page/n1188/mode/1up
[Morton Adam D rms 519 Dovercourt road]

1912
https://archive.org/stream/torontodirec191200midiuoft#page/1052/mode/1up
[Morton Adam D h Beatrice]

1908
https://archive.org/stream/torontodirec190800midiuoft#page/n887/mode/1up
[Morton Adam D, insp Bell Tel Co 123 Bay l 681 Church]
[Church is a blk E of yonge - 681 must be around Bloor]

Glenys

Glenys Report 18 Mar 2014 00:47

OK - it's a new day in South OZ - Tuesday. After spending many hours I've been unable to locate a birth entry for Adam Dyson MORTON. He is with his parents on the 1880 census:
Adam D. Morton
Son
United States Census, 1880
birth: 1874 Canada
residence: 1880 Flint, Genesee, Michigan, United States

His marr. entry:
Name Adam Dyson Morton
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 28 Apr 1903
Event Place Brampton, Peel, Ontario, Canada
Age 28

and his Death Cert has:
Name: Adam Dyson Morton
Death Date: 30 Mar 1938
Death County or District: York
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875

We have proven that
Herbert Adam MORTON was b. 10 May 1874
Adam Dyson MORTON was b. between May 1874 & when brother
Charles Joe Forese MORTON on 1 Nov 1876 all . Brampton ONT CAN

So we have a window of between Feb 1875 & Feb 1876.

Adam Dyson MORTON was living in Michigan until his father (Robert Edward MORTON) died in 1891 when he returned to Brampton CAN and lived briefly with his Uncle (James Alexander MORTON). Would he have been on the USA SSI (Social Security Index)? If so, are we able to access it and what info would it give re birthdate?

Clutching at straws - and still looking for a living relative.....

Glenys

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Mar 2014 16:35

Right, Gins, I stand corrected. I only looked at the death record, should have checked birth record.

Gee

Gee Report 17 Mar 2014 15:42

MArgee

Looks like a different family


Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913

Name:George Dunn Martin

Date of Birth:16 Apr 1872

Gender:Male

Birth County or District:Peel

Father's Name:Robert Martin <<Merchant

Mother's name:Elizabeth Upshall

Archive Name:Archives of Ontario

Archive Series:MS929

Archive Reel:7



Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913

Name:Emma Martin

Date of Birth:16 Apr 1872

Gender:Female

Birth County or District:Peel

Father's Name:Robert Martin

Mother's name:Elizabeth Upshall

Archive Name:Archives of Ontario

Archive Series:MS929

Archive Reel:7


MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Mar 2014 12:50

Glenys, Herbert Adam's birth is registered but if he was a twin Adam Dyson's birth would be registered at the same time and it wasn't.

Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913
about Herbert Adam Marton Name: Herbert Adam Marton
Date of Birth: 10 May 1874
Gender: Male
Birth County or District: Peel
Father's Name: Robert E Marton
Mother's name: Sarah Jane Trueman
Archive Name: Archives of Ontario
Archive Series: MS929
Archive Reel: 16


MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Mar 2014 09:46

Is this a set of twins born to your Robert? There's a death registration in Brampton for Emma Marton died 16 April 1872, died same day as born and George Dunn Marton died 23 April 1872, aged 7 days. Father was Robert Marton for both.

Edit: Ignore this, Glenys, see Gins' post.

Glenys

Glenys Report 17 Mar 2014 03:24

1861
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4391951_00017.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4391951_00018.pdf
[owns 1 cow & 2 pigs]
[The nominal census day was 14/1/1861 in Ont/Quebec - age is supposed to be age next b'day - it seems to be judging by Robt & Gennet Jnr.

There's a 5 y o Christian Black present pob=Upper Canada (i.e., Ont) - no idea who she is]

NOTE:A Christian BLACK is buried in the same plot as Adam & Janet MORTON in the Brampton cemetery as is a Helen BLACK. Have to find a relationship here!

Glenys

Glenys Report 17 Mar 2014 01:50

Hi mgnv, many thanks. If you look at my last post - it shows the births of 2 babies (Herbert Adam & Adam Dyson), born same day - twins. I suspect that one died shortly after birth. Thanks for looking for my MORTON's whose surname is spelled as MARTON on quite a few certs.

They also have twin cousins - Morton Woods MORTON and John G. W. MORTON born 12 Nov 1882 Wingham, Huron, ONT CAN. Cannot find any more on this John but wonder if he died 1923 in Nova Scotia. Am looking into it.

Glenys

Glenys Report 17 Mar 2014 00:41

Again Margee, thanks.

Herbert Adam & Adam Dyson MORTON are twins (well at least they are born on the same day :-D) and as they both have Adam in their names maybe one died at birth, I guess only their birth certs will identify that.

Now I have these brothers, the issue of James Alexander MORTON & Jessie Helena (nee WOODS) MORTON:
Morton Woods MORTON b. 12 Nov 1882 Wingham, Huron, ONT CAN d. 4 Jun 1939 Vancouver, British Columbia, CAN a bank manager
m. Lula Maude HARDY m. 27 Nov 1909 British Columbia, CAN b. c1885 Patterson, ONT CAN d. 29 Jan 1960 Vancouver CAN
[daughter of Henry Romaine HARDY and Emma Calista O'CARR]

John G.W. MORTON b. 12 Nov 1882 Wingham, Huron, ONT CAN

I cannot locate any issue for Morton (Mort.) MORTON & his wife Helena so we have another line completed.

Also cannot locate any further info on John G.W. MORTON b. 12 Nov 1882 at Wingham.

Must be your bedtime by now.

mgnv

mgnv Report 17 Mar 2014 00:32

Although some of these censuses relate to other folk on your OP, I've not bothered to sort them out.

Jas A
1911 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001994015.pdf [immig 1852]

Adam Snr
1911 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002012446.pdf

Woods
1911 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002012489.pdf

The census nominal day was within a day of the UK's 1871-1901. For 1906-1921, it was in June.


http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html
1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON HURON (East/Est) (#73)
Subdistrict: Wingham (Town/Ville) G-2 Page 3
Image: View the image with: split screen
11 27 Morton J A M Head M Aug 14 1848 52
12 27 Morton Jessie H F Wife M Aug 31 1856 44
13 27 Morton John G W M Son S Nov 12 1882 18
14 27 Morton Ica Fay F Niece S Feb 17 1886 15
15 27 Woods Eliza A F Mother in Law W Jun 12 1820 80
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000071544.pdf
Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000071539.pdf
[P3L11 addy=9 Shuter St]


1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON PEEL (#103)
Subdistrict: Brampton (Town/Ville) A-3 Page 9
Image: View the image with: split screen
15 97 Mortan Adam M Head M Aug 4 1826 74
16 97 Mortan Jennet F Wife M Nov 29 1825 75
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000093780.pdf
Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000093769.pdf
[P9L15 addy=?? Isabella St]

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON YORK (West/Ouest) (#131)
Subdistrict: Toronto (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No. 6 G-2 Page 14
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6508
Image: View the image with: split screen
31 143 Handy Henry M Head M Dec 4 1851 50
32 143 Handy Emma F Wife M Oct 17 1859 42
33 143 Handy Hugh M Son S Mar 20 1882 19
34 143 Handy Mable F Daughter S Nov 26 1884 17
35 143 Handy Lulu F Daughter S Oct 24 1886 15
36 143 Handy Grace F Daughter S May 5 1889 12
37 143 Handy Margret F Daughter S Jul 16 1896 5
[On line 31, the value for the surname field is "Handy", the suggested correction is "Hardy".]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z003/z000119404.pdf
[Note yob is usually miscomputed]
Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z003/z000119389.pdf
[P14 L31 addy=86 Dunn St]



1891
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148163-00457.pdf
[NB View Record Caroline Truesdale[Caroline Morton] name,name township, Peel, Ontario abt 1866 location info
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148146-00502.pdf
[Morton W a=8 is only kid present]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148128-00109.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148128-00110.pdf
[Lula's sibs incl Mabel - probly the witness at her marr]

1881
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008186715.pdf
[Brampton, Peel Co]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e329/e008204083.pdf
[Wingham, Huron Co]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008195567.pdf
Henry R & Emma - no kids]
1880 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MWS7-XHH
Affiliate Film Number: 0579
Image Number: 00391
https://archive.org/stream/10thcensus0579unit#page/n389/mode/1up [magnify 4 clicks, then save]

1871
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396752_00355.pdf

1861
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4391951_00017.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4391951_00018.pdf
[owns 1 cow & 2 pigs]
[The nominal census day was 14/1/1861 in Ont/Quebec - age is supposed to be age next b'day - it seems to be judging by Robt & Gennet Jnr.
There's a 5 y o Christian Black present pob=Upper Canada (i.e., Ont) - no idea who she is]

1851
Piece: SCT1851/658 Place: Walston -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Walston Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Walston
Folio: 670 Page: 15 Schedule: 61
Address: Henchelend
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MORTON Adam Head M M 24 Teacher Ayrshire - Loudoun
MORTON Janet Wife M F 25 Renfrewshire - Lochwinnoch
MORTON James Son - M 2 Lanarkshire - Walston
MORTON Robert Son - M 9m Lanarkshire - Walston
MORTON Robert Y Nephew - M 2 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
YOUNG Samuel Nephew - M 11 Scholar At Home Lanarkshire - Glasgow
YOUNG James Brolaw U M 27 Farmer's Son Renfrewshire - Lochwinnoch
YOUNG Marion Sislaw U F 21 Farmer's Daughter Renfrewshire - Lochwinnoch
Page: 670/16 CLARK Hugh - - M 13 Scholar Midlothian - Edinburgh
MCINNES William - - M 14 Scholar Midlothian - Edinburgh

mgnv

mgnv Report 17 Mar 2014 00:32

I don't think Morton had any kids.
You could go thru the city directory, and see if any pop up:
http://www.vpl.ca/bccd/index.php

Right now, for free 1921 image, search at
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
1921 Census of Canada
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Hamilton West
District Number: 88
Sub-District: Ward No 3
Sub-District Number: 10
City, Town or Village: Hamilton
Street or Township: 86 Heckriver St
Municipality: Ward 3

Morton Morton 38 Ontario Head M Manager (Bank)
Lula Morton 35 Ontario Wife M


http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/KeywordGenealogy
has Lula's m.cert & d.cert online (and free) - the other BC certs are not digitized yet - periodically rechecck if you don't have them.

BC births are closed for the shorter of post-1903/120 years.
I note that Lula's d.cert informant isn't any off-spring, but her executors.

Re your OP:
3 Morton Woods MORTON b. 12 Nov 1882 Wingham, Huron, ONT CAN
3 John G.W. MORTON b. 12 Nov 1882 Wingham, Huron, ONT CAN

I don't think Morton had a twin bro - I think they're the same guy.
Note there's only one of them on 1891 and on 1901.

I can't find Morton in 1911 - I think they should be in District 12 (Vancouver) Subdistrict 76
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp
images:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001942808.pdf
thru
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001942864.pdf
This enumeration seems quite disorganized - I didn't find anyone living at 1070 Haro.
I now think he might be listed as 21 Merrill, but I couldn't face going thru it again.
[In 1910 Morten M W is acct Bank of Hamilton, lvs 21 Merrill Mansions.
The street index part shows this is an apt bldg at 1070 Haro, just W of Burrard (so right downtown), on the SE corner with Thurlow)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Mar 2014 23:02

I don't know about Herbert Adam Morton, Glenys. He doesn't show up on the 1880 census with parents and Adam D., aged 6. I can't find any record of him.

Edit: Sorry, guess this is his birth, mis-spelled again as Marton:

Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913
about Herbert Adam Marton Name: Herbert Adam Marton
Date of Birth: 10 May 1874
Gender: Male
Birth County or District: Peel
Father's Name: Robert E Marton
Mother's name: Sarah Jane Trueman
Archive Name: Archives of Ontario
Archive Series: MS929
Archive Reel: 16


Glenys

Glenys Report 16 Mar 2014 21:39

Thanks Margee - I did not have 1921 census (which perpetuates the mis-spelling of our surname), now I also have his occupation. It appears that there were no children to the marriage of Adam Dyson MORTON & Jessie Lye nee WOODS.

Yes, Emma WOODS is mother-in-law to Adam Dyson MORTON.

Adam Dyson MORTON had 3 siblings - Charles died as an infant; Herbert Adam MORTON b.10 May 1874 in Brampton I have not found anywhere else and Joy Fay MORTON b.17 Feb 1885 in Flint, Genesee, MI USA passed 28 Sep 1936 in Toronto, CAN seemingly unmarried. Her name has been recorded as Ica Fay, Ivy Fay, Icy Fay and when I found her death as Joy Fay (all MORTON).

So, unless I can find Herbert Adam MORTON survived infancy and married this line will come to a dead end and I'll have to move on to Uncle James Alexander MORTON for descendants.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Mar 2014 12:34

Do you have this, Glenys?

1921 Census of Canada
about Adam Dyson Marton Name: Adam Dyson Marton
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birth Place: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Jessie Woods Marton
Father Birth Place: Ontario
Mother Birth Place: Ontario
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: York West
District Number: 145
Sub-District: Toronto (City, part)
Sub-District Number: 59
City, Town or Village: Toronto
Street or Township: 50 Gothic
Municipality: Ward 7
Occupation: Car Inspector
Income: 2600
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Dyson Marton 46
Jessie Woods Marton 42
Emma Woods 67

Emma is mother-in-law.


Glenys

Glenys Report 16 Mar 2014 11:35

Llittle wonder I could not find Sarah MORTON's death! Recorded as Sara MARTON (maiden name TURMAN), as found by Gins.

And Robert MORTON's death has been found - 7 Oct 1891 in Flint, Genesee, MI USA with their burials in the Glenwood cemetery in Flint. Still not sure if they share a grave with 2 tombstones or are in separate graves.

Robert & Sarah MORTON's children were very young to have lost both parents, they returned to Canada to live with Uncle James, their father's brother and his family.

Still searching for a living relative.

Glenys

Glenys

Glenys Report 16 Mar 2014 11:11

To Gins, Chris & Margee - many thanks for your help, the tips given have led me to more info on my MORTON family in both Canada & Michigan. Still searching for a living rellie though.
I am very grateful.
Glenys

Gee

Gee Report 14 Mar 2014 08:03


Michigan, Deaths and Burials Index, 1867-1995

Name:
Sara Marton
[Sara Turman]

Birth Date:abt 1853

Birth Place:Canada

Death Date:1 Sep 1889

Death Place:Flint City, Genesee, Michigan

Death Age:36

Occupation:Housekeeper

Race:White

Marital Status:Married

Gender:Female

Father Name:Wm. Turman

Mother Name:Elizabeth Lurman

FHL Film Number:1018929


Not seeing a death reg for Robert?