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Australia - James Sim 1882 & 1904 father and son

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Kerrynk

Kerrynk Report 10 Mar 2014 07:18

Thank you so much, I have been searching for his death certificate number so I can now purchase it. His first wife was Eleanor Bates and he had 3 children to the marriage, Eleanor died in 1913. James emmigrated to australia and also bought over Beatrice and her children (including one child of james/Beatrice another James.

James was also the son of George and Jane Sim

I also had the details that he was born abt 1882 in south shields so that date is great. I have another problem with the same family but will put it out there on another thread

Once again thank you all so much for all your help
Kerryn

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Mar 2014 14:55

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1911 England Census about James Lim
Name: James Lim
[James Sim]
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 7 Rothwell St Salford
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dock Labourer
Registration district: Salford
Registration District Number: 465
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 24053
Household Members:
Name Age
James Lim 39
Eleanor Lim 31
Eleanor Jane Lim 11
Annie Lim 8
James Lim 6



England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Eleanor Bates
Name: Eleanor Bates
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1899
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 17
Records on Page:
Name
Eleanor Bates
Rose Ann Clarke
James Sim
Edward Woods




England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Eleanor J Sim
Name: Eleanor J Sim
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1913
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 187


Looks like James waited until all his children were grown up before he emigrated.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Mar 2014 14:50

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UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about James Sim
Name: James Sim
Gender: Male
Age: 53
Birth Date: abt 1872
Departure Date: 3 Feb 1925
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name: Moreton Bay
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Moreton Bay' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Australian Commonwealth Line
Master: J Mason


Last address in UK: 4 Mona Terrace, Ashton on Mersey.
Occupation: Labourer.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 9 Mar 2014 13:46

1901
Name: James Sim
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Jarrow, Durham
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Salford
Sub-District: Regent Road
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Ordsall In Salford St Clement
Civil Parish: Salford
District/Parish/County: Lancashire


Roy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 9 Mar 2014 13:17

1881??
James Sim
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relationship to Head: Son
Mother: Jane Sim<<<<married husband at sea
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle On Tyne

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country:England

Street address: 18 Cellar Boundary Street E
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3595
Folio: 85
Page Number:47
Household Members:

Name Age
Jane Sim 35
Wm. Sim 16
John Sim 14
George Sim 11
James Sim 9
Cath. Sim 7
Jessie Sim 5
Lilly Sim 3
Mary Sim 1

Ancestry link this record to both the birth i posted above and this one, But the one below is listed as born Wooler as per glendale registration district

Name: James Sim
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1871
Registration district: Glendale
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b Page: 383


Roy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 9 Mar 2014 13:05

As we no ages on deaths can often be wrong

Births Jun 1871
SIM James S. Shields 10a 747

Jarrow is in South Shields registration district

Roy

Gee

Gee Report 9 Mar 2014 12:32

Nice find Det

A tree at Ancestry has that date for the death too

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Mar 2014 11:57

????

Deceased Details
Cemetery Geelong Eastern Cemetery
Location EAS-COE-11-807-179
Section Church Of England
Row 11
Grave 179
Register # 17192
Surname Sim
Given Names James
Service Date 21 Jan 1941
Date of Birth
Date of Death 20 Jan 1941
Age 68 Y

Assuming the age is correct, this person was born c1873
http://mapping.gct.net.au/Mapping/Default.aspx

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Mar 2014 11:56

???? YOB way out:

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Jas Sim
Name: Jas Sim
Death Place: Geelong, Victoria
Age: 69
Registration Year: 1941
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 15657
Estimated birth year: abt 1872

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Mar 2014 11:47

Search on this link for his DC - using the parameters 1940-1942 (in case your years were off) there are 2 results. You have to pay to view, then order/download the certificate at an extra cost.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Mar 2014 11:39

[Content deleted, as wrong information.]

Gee

Gee Report 9 Mar 2014 11:28

Was he married before he married Beatrice?


This couple show on the UK 1911 census



Marriages Dec 1905

SIM James Thirsk 9d 873
WAIN Jane Thirsk 9d 873



1911 England Census


Name:James Sim

Age in 1911:31

Estimated birth year:abt 1880

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Birth Place:Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish:York

County/Island:Yorkshire-East Riding

Country:England

Street address:26 Cambridge St Holgate Rd York

Marital Status:Married 5 years

Occupation:Upholsterer

Registration district:York

Registration District Number:517

Sub-registration district:York West

ED, institution, or vessel:3

Piece:28427

Household Members:


James Sim 31
Jane Sim 36
Thomas Wain 12
Thomas Francis Bell



Kerrynk

Kerrynk Report 9 Mar 2014 10:56

I am trying to find the death information on my grandfather James Sim. and any further information the death cert has.He was born in 1882 in Jarrow, England and did in 1941 in Geelong Victoria I think. If I can find a reference number I will order his death certificate. He married Beatrice Deakin (Armstrong) in Australia
Thanks Kerryn