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1851 census transcription details for: Blairdardie Colliery, Blairdardie Colliery, East Kilpatrick
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National Archive Reference:
RG number:
Piece: 500
Folio: 28
Page: 8
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: East Kilpatrick
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Blairdardie Colliery, Blairdardie Colliery, East Kilpatrick
County: Dunbartonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CAIRNS, Robert Head Married M 51 1800 Coal Miner
Ireland Derry
CAIRNS, Bridget Wife Unmarried F 45 1806 Miner's Wife
Ireland Derry
CAIRNS, Robert Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Coal Miner
Ireland Derry
CAIRNS, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 13 1838 Colliers Daughter
W Kilpatrick, Dumbarton
CAIRNS, James Son Unmarried M 8 1843 Scholar
W Kilpatrick, Dumbarton
CAIRNS, Charles Son Unmarried M 6 1845 Scholar
W Kilpatrick, Dumbarton
CAIRNS, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 4 1847
W Kilpatrick, Dumbarton
CAIRNS, Francis Son Unmarried M 1 1850
W Kilpatrick, Dumbarton
FLANIGAN, Mary Visitor Unmarried F 45 1806 Power Loom Weaver
Ireland Derry


1861 census transcription details for: Blairdardie Row, New Kilpatrick
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 500
Folio: 0
Page: 6
Reg. District: New Kilpatrick
Sub District:
Parish: New Kilpatrick
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Blairdardie Row, New Kilpatrick
County: Dunbartonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CAIRNS, Robert Head Married M 55 1806 Coal Miner
Ireland
CAIRNS, Bridget Wife Married F 48 1813
Ireland
>>CAIRNS, James Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Coal Miner
New Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire
CAIRNS, Charles Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Coal Miner
New Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire
CAIRNS, Francis Son M 12 1849 Coal Miner
New Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire


1871 census transcription details for: 58, Whitelaw Street, Maryhill
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 622
Folio: 3A
Page: 30
Reg. District: Maryhill
Sub District:
Parish: Maryhill
Enum. District: 3A
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 58, Whitelaw Street, Maryhill
County: Lanarkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CAIRNS, Bridget Head Widow F 63 1808 Ireland
>>CAIRNS, James Son Unmarried M 27 1844 Ironstone Miner Duntocher, Dunbartonshire
CAIRNS, Francis Son Unmarried M 21 1850 Ironstone Miner N Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire

Ela, You should invest in some credits for Scotlandspeople as it is much cheaper to research Scottish ancestors as Scottish certificates give more information. I think that it is possible that James's wife Margaret Cairns died in 1922. The chances are that his children moved to Lincoln too.

rootgatherer.

Just want to say thank you for all the census imformation on the family,

email's are flying backwards and forwards between myself and interested family members. :-)

Eilleen.

I thought so at one time ,

but I managed to trace that guy , and it was not him :-|

I believe I found his family tree and got in touch with them.

Eilleen.

This 'could' be the disappearence of your man ??


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about James Dickie
Name: James Dickie
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1903
Departure Date: 16 Oct 1930
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Olympic
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Olympic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 131346
Master: C E Warner


His address was 10 Athelstone ? Road, Knightwood, Glasgow.

He said he was a engineer and was en route to Peru ?

Is this around the right time for his disappearence?

Dea x

Yes, I do have the marriage cert,

all lie's , it was a bigamous marriage,

but ..... I must not go in to that :-D

why not

she said she was a widow , they both did , they both lied , both previous partners

were still alive, :-| or at least Charles wife was, James Dickie ( still could be under the patio )

Eilleen

Do you have the marriage cert of Rose to Charles? It should give her marital status at the time ie divorced. or. widow

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Thank you for your interest in my search.

Rose Barton did marry James Dickie in 1925, and from then onwards I am fully

stocked with the family coming forward in time,

apart from the disappearance of James Dickie around the time of his wife Rose's

affair with Charles Winifred Lanes, but that is another story :-S ( maybe went to work in Canada, or more likely ended up under the patio )

The folks on here have amazed Me with their help, and I have lots to add to my

branches,

I still have to find when James Dickie came to Lincoln, so going to the library to

trawl through the electoral registers .

must get a list together of questions now nead to try and get answered :-D

and work out how many certificates I need to order .( the much needed new

washing machine will have to wait )

Eillen.

Not seeing a death for Rose but this looks a strong possibility

Name: Rose Dickie
Spouse Surname: Lanes
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1942
Registration District: Lincoln
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 1678
Find Spouse: Charles W Lanes

Ties with her birth year

Name: Rose Lanes
Birth Date: 15 Jun 1908
Date of Registration: Jul 1994
Age at Death: 86
Registration District: Lincoln
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Register Number: C45C
District and Subdistrict: 6191C
Entry Number: 267

Daughter married as Lanes look on FreeBMD for the marriage

.?
Name: James Dickie
Birth Date: abt 1902
Date of Registration: Mar 1948
Age at Death: 46
Registration District: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 316

Name: James Dickie
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1902
Date of Registration: Dec 1972
Age at Death: 70
Registration District: Gateshead
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 2081

If this is Rose she would have been a young bride

Name: Rose Barton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1908
Registration District: Lincoln
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 492

Could this be the son

Name: James Dickie
Spouse Surname: Barton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1925
Registration District: Lincoln
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 1197
Find Spouse: Rose Barton

One daughter

Name: Rosemary Dickie
Mother's Maiden Surname: Barton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1927
Registration District: Lincoln
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 759

Maybe lucky here but the marriage of George and Helen will name her parents to be sure.

1861

Name: Helen Wilson
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Wilson
Mother's Name: Catrine Wilson
Gender: Female
Where born: Stair, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 604
Registration District: Mauchline
Civil Parish: Mauchline
County: Ayrshire
Address: Loan
Occupation: Narnesher Box Mauef
ED: 6
Household Schedule Number: 3
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1861_88
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Wilson 61 A. Lab., b. Mauchline
Catrine Wilson 61 b. Mauchline
Catrine Wilson 21
Helen Wilson 17

1851

Name: Robt Wilson
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Cathrine Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Mauchline, Ayrshire
Parish Number: 604
Civil Parish: Mauchline
County: Ayrshire
Address: Blackland
Occupation: Agricultural Laborer
ED: 2
Page: 15 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 39
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1851_135
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Wilson 50
Cathrine Wilson 50
Cathrine Wilson 11
Helen Wilson 8

1841

Name: Robert Wilson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Stair
County: Ayrshire
Address: Crosshill
Occupation: Ag Lab
Parish Number: 614
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Wilson 40
Catherine Wilson 40
Margaret Wilson 12
John Wilson 10
Isabella Wilson 7
Catherine Wilson 1

1861

Name: George Dickie
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Matthew Dickie
Mother's Name: Christanie Dickie
Gender: Male
Where born: Tarbolton, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 604
Registration District: Mauchline
Civil Parish: Mauchline
Town: Mauchline
County: Ayrshire
Address: Loudoun St
Occupation: Snuff Box Maker
ED: 8
Household Schedule Number: 73
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1861_88
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Dickie 53 b. Tarbolton, Sawyer and Joiner
Christanie Dickie 52 b. Auchinleck
Matthew Dickie 20
George Dickie 17
Jean W Dickie 14
Janet Stevenson 10 Niece, b. Paisley



(Wonder if the Snuff boxes that George was making were Mauchline ware? They'd be worth a few bob now)

1851

Name: George Dickie
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Mathew Dickie
Mother's Name: Margaret Dickie
Gender: Male
Where born: Tarbolton, c ayr
Parish Number: 619
Civil Parish: Tarbolton
Town: Tarbolton
County: Ayrshire
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Page: 45 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 192
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_139
Household Members:
Name Age
Mathew Dickie 45
Margaret Dickie 47 b. Kilwinning
John S Dickie 15
Margt Dickie 12
Mathew Dickie 10
George Dickie 8
Jane Dickie 4


1841

Name: Matthew Dickie
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Tarbolton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Village Of Failford
Occupation: Hone V Strap M
Parish Number: 619
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Dickie 30
Margaret Dickie 30
Hugh Dickie 13
Ann Dickie 10
John Dickie 5
Margaret Dickie 3
Matthew Dickie 6 Mo

Cumera Machine Man is probably mistranscribed and should be Camera Machine Man

Roy

Well, just to make your head buzz even more..........William's father George was born in Ayrshire and there are quite a few Dickies in that area. And loads of Wilsons (his mother's maiden surname) in Ayrshire too.

On earlier census George is listed as a Fancy Box maker, so just guessing it is probably some sort of wood turning machine?

The marriage certificate was available online from Scotlandspeople. You can look on there for William's birth and his pafrents marriages and deaths. £7 for 30 credits. 1 credit to view search results and 5 to view / download certificate.

I do not know what time you friendly bunch go to bed :-)

but my eye's are sore and my head is buzzing ,

bet I do not get much sleep, the Dickie's will be muddling my brain.

massive thank you , see you in the morning <3

Eilleen.

Well found Alviegal, I just wasn't seeing Maggie with her family on Ancestry - maybe mistranscribe.

rootgatherer. wow :-D

A question , what would be a Cumera Machine Man .

going to re- read what has been found to open up this family to Me , after 6 years of

looking . :-0