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9 Feb 2014 21:06 |
Thankyou all your help is much appreciated this really is a wonderful site xx
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9 Feb 2014 20:12 |
Caroline is mentioned here just noticed
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9 Feb 2014 20:07 |
Not the same names on this one the 1871 is right John William goes down through the generations
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9 Feb 2014 19:54 |
So I wonder if this is them in 1871 with a son Charles. They haven't noted the birth places on the original annoyingly.
1871 England Census Name: John Chamberlain Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Chamberlain Gender: Male Civil Parish: Kirton in Lindsey Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln Town: Kirton in Lindsey County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration District: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration District: Brigg ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 192 Piece: 3427 Folio: 59 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age John Chamberlain 42 Ann Chamberlain 38 William Chamberlain 11 Charles Chamberlain 9 Ann Chamberlain 7 James Chamberlain 6 Caroline Chamberlain 5 Jane Chamberlain 3 John Chamberlain 2
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9 Feb 2014 19:36 |
These chamberlains The wedding info is spot on and Aunt Annie is mentioned here However the 1881 census show Eliza's mother as 46 and 1883 marriage shows Eliza as 30 which could be right and wilsford is right
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9 Feb 2014 19:26 |
1861 England Census Name: Eliza Chamberlain Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: 1854 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Chamberlain Mother's Name: Ann Chamberlain Gender: Female Where born: Dorrington, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Ragnall County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: Registration District: East Retford Sub-registration District: Tuxford ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 57 Piece: 2417 Folio: 127 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age John Chamberlain 32 Ann Chamberlain 29 Eliza Chamberlain 7 Mary E Chamberlain 4 John W Chamberlain
John William who was witness perhaps?
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9 Feb 2014 19:25 |
1881 (possible?) CHAMBERLAIN, John Head Married M 53 1828 Ag Lab Dorrington, Lincolnshire CHAMBERLAIN, Ann Wife Married F 46 1835 Rauceby, Lincolnshire CHAMBERLAIN, Ann Daughter Single F 18 1863 Servant Out Of Situation Ragnall, Nottinghamshire CHAMBERLAIN, John Son Single M 12 1869 Ag Lab Drayton, Nottinghamshire CHAMBERLAIN, Edwin Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Wilsford, Lincolnshire CHAMBERLAIN, Henry Standlain Grand Son Single M 4 1877 Wilsford, Lincolnshire Piece: 3224 Folio: 41 Page: 13 Registration District: Sleaford Civil Parish: Wilsford Municipal Borough: Address: Village Street, Wilsford County: Lincolnshire
Chris :)
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County Lincolnshire Place Rauceby Church St Peter RegisterNumber MarriageDate 07 Jun 1853 GroomForename John GroomSurname CHAMBERLAIN GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition GroomOccupation GroomAbode BrideForename Ann BrideSurname WHITTACRE BrideAge BrideParish BrideCondition BrideOccupation BrideAbode GroomFatherForename GroomFatherSurname CHAMBERLAIN GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename John BrideFatherSurname WHITTACRE
Baptism (not sure looking at above, but fits as witness!) County Lincolnshire Place Dorrington Church St James & St John RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 01 Jan 1860 Forename John W Sex M FatherForename John MotherForename Ann FatherSurname CHAMBERLAIN MotherSurname Abode Dorrington FatherOccupation Labourer
Births Dec 1853 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- CHAMBERLAIN Eliza Sleaford 7a 350
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9 Feb 2014 19:23 |
Oh dear. Just come back from making a curry for supper tonight. If her father was John we need to go back to the beginning and re-find Eliza with a father called John a labourer.
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9 Feb 2014 19:12 |
County Lincolnshire Place Heckington Church St Andrew RegisterNumber 81 MarriageDate 10 Nov 1883 GroomForename William GroomSurname JESSOP GroomAge 30 GroomParish GroomCondition Bachelor GroomOccupation Farmer GroomAbode Heckington BrideForename Eliza BrideSurname CHAMBERLAIN BrideAge 30 BrideParish BrideCondition Spinster BrideOccupation BrideAbode Heckington GroomFatherForename Samuel GroomFatherSurname JESSOP GroomFatherOccupation Farmer BrideFatherForename John BrideFatherSurname CHAMBERLAIN BrideFatherOccupation Labourer WitnessOneForename John William WitnessOneSurname CHAMBERLAIN WitnessTwoForename Annie WitnessTwoSurname CHAMBERLAIN
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9 Feb 2014 18:56 |
In 1911 Charles's birthplace is given as Ragnall, and his YOB as c.1859:
1911 England Census about Charles Chamberlain Name: Charles Chamberlain Age in 1911: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Ragnall, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Wilsford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address: Wilsford Grantham Marital status: Married Occupation: Horse Keeper On Farm Registration District: Sleaford Registration District Number: 416 Sub-registration District: Sleaford ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Piece: 19647 Household Members: Name Age Charles Chamberlain 52 Any Chamberlain 56 Charles William Chamberlain 22 Harold Chamberlain 16
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9 Feb 2014 18:53 |
You ask about Caroline Chamberlain - I assume you mean the one in the 1871 census posted on page 1?
She is a daughter of the family. I don't know if this is the right Charles's family or not, as the census record doesn't give birthplaces for any of the family. It's only a guess, because Charles's age is right.
They may be totally unrelated to your Charles.
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9 Feb 2014 18:44 |
Samuel Jessop met his wife Emily at Wilsford
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9 Feb 2014 18:38 |
What details would you like?
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9 Feb 2014 18:32 |
I am not so sure that it was so unusual for a woman in 1914 to have beautifuil handwriting - I suppose it would really depend on her 'station' in life ??
Do you want to give the details from the letter so that we might be able to help further?
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9 Feb 2014 18:30 |
Yes this is the Eliza who wrote the letter now the Caroline Chamberlan in this census is who? The Chamberlains at Wilsford above have a grave next to the Jessops immediately above tihis and we understand they purchased the plot or the Jessop's annoyingly just can't find the connection between the two Chambelain families
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9 Feb 2014 18:21 |
1891 JESSOP, William Head Married M 37 1854 Farmer Billinghay, Lincolnshire JESSOP, Eliza Wife Married F 37 1854 Rauceby, Lincolnshire JESSOP, Samuel Son M 6 1885 Scholar Swineshead, Lincolnshire JESSOP, John W Son M 4 1887 Boston, Lincolnshire JESSOP, Frederick Son M 3 1888 Boston, Lincolnshire JESSOP, Elizabeth A Daughter F 2 1889 Boston, Lincolnshire CHAMBERLAIN, Caroline Visitor F 25 1866 Dressmaker Ragnall, Nottinghamshire Piece: 2575 Folio: 49 Page: 13 Registration District: Boston Civil Parish: Boston Municipal Borough: Boston Address: Boston West, Boston County: Lincolnshire
County Lincolnshire Place Swineshead Church St Mary RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 07 Dec 1884 Forename Samuel Sex M FatherForename William MotherForename Eliza FatherSurname JESSOP MotherSurname Abode Swineshead FatherOccupation Cottager
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
(not sure if anything relating, noticed above!)
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9 Feb 2014 18:15 |
We also find the mention of Ratcliffe Hall very interesting because the letter is written by a woman who is very articulate and well schooled beautiful writing uncommon for women in 1914
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9 Feb 2014 18:12 |
The letter is from Eliza to he son Samuel Jessop who is in the trenches Dec 1914 she writes about Aunt Annie Harold and young Charles and Wilsford
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9 Feb 2014 18:06 |
Who is the letter to and from, Enid?
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9 Feb 2014 18:05 |
??? No birthplaces listed for any of the family
1871 England Census about Charles Chamberlain Name: Charles Chamberlain Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Chamberlain Mother's Name: Ann Chamberlain Gender: Male Civil Parish: Kirton in Lindsey Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln Town: Kirton in Lindsey County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration District: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration District: Brigg ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 192 Piece: 3427 Folio: 59 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age John Chamberlain 42 Ann Chamberlain 38 William Chamberlain 11 Charles Chamberlain 9 Ann Chamberlain 7 James Chamberlain 6 Caroline Chamberlain 5 Jane Chamberlain 3 John Chamberlain 2
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