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ArgyllGran
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6 Feb 2014 18:06 |
In 1911 James is in the workhouse, described as former house decorator, also listed as married:
1911 England Census about James Kendall Name: James Kendall Age in 1911: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Male Birth Place: Cocknow, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Edmonton County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Edmonton Union Workhouse, 77 Bridport Road, Upper Edmonton Marital status: Married Occupation: Formerly House Decorater Registration District: Edmonton Registration District Number: 132 Sub-registration District: Edmonton ED, institution, or vessel: 56-59 Piece: 7406
His death: England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about James Kendall Name: James Kendall Birth Date: abt 1843 Date of Registration: Dec 1918 Age at Death: 75 Registration District: Edmonton Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 1392
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6 Feb 2014 17:55 |
This appears to be the same family in 1881, although James is a paperhanger, not a hairdresser. His age is 39 on the image, not 29.
1881 England Census about James Kendell Name: James Kendell Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary A. Kendell Gender: Male Where born: Coochnol, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Tottenham County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 8 Woodville Grove West Marital status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Paperhanger Registration District: Edmonton Sub-registration District: Tottenham ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1385 Folio: 30 Page Number: 54 Household Members: Name Age James Kendell 29 Mary A. Kendell 28 - Leeds, Yorkshire Mary A. Kendell 10 Alice M. Kendell 6 Arthur J. Kendell 4 William J. Kendell 2 Frederick J. Kendell
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ErikaH
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6 Feb 2014 15:36 |
I'm sorry, but you are wrong, Philip, about the wife of JAMES - or someone is
...........have you actually done any research yourself?
Look at the info provided by people on this thread......then re-think
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6 Feb 2014 14:54 |
I think you should look at the James Kennell I posted about, Iam sure they are one in the same.They have same birth year and place of birth.
1851 there is a Fanny kennel 1847 grandaughter and I think this is her . Fanny Walton kennell 1847 Hardingstone Northamptonshire baptised by Mary 25/12/1848 in Cogenhoe.No husband shown so Mary looks to be single. V15 P 262.
James Kennell 1843 Hardingstone V15 P 262.
1851 name Kennell 1841 same family Cannall with daughter Mary born @ 1826.
1851 Mary Kennell in Infirmary as a patient.
James kennel/Kendall is in Cogenhoe as apprentice hairdresser in 1861,is he the son of Mary?? and brother to Fanny?? who later goes on to marry Mary Ann.
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6 Feb 2014 13:04 |
Diane pearl kendell 1946 is married to Kenneth wade who I have spoken to and where I got this information from Nobody seems to get any further than James Kendall 1842
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6 Feb 2014 13:03 |
Diane pearl kendell 1946 is married to Kenneth wade who I have spoken to and where I got this information from Nobody seems to get any further than James Kendall 1842
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6 Feb 2014 13:00 |
Right.... I have James Kendall 1842 married to Mary Ann wilkinson 1850 Children Annie m, arthur j, Jamey, John henry 1889,Mary a, and William j. In 1891 census. John Henry Kendall 1889 married Annie e loveday 1888 Children Annie Amelia, John Henry, Emmy, Frederick g and Arthur William Kendall 1915- 1987 Arthur William married pearl Marjorie sheppard 1915- 1984 Children Diane pearl and roger w
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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6 Feb 2014 11:11 |
Have sent a pm to Philip.
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ErikaH
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6 Feb 2014 10:49 |
I don't think that Wilkinson is remotely relevant......................at least not as a wife for James
If Philip returns, perhaps he will tell us how he 'traced' these people when his' info' is not supported by the facts
We aren't even sure who he's looking for...............JAMES or JOHN
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ErikaH
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6 Feb 2014 10:45 |
Presumably, the child James born c1869 died..............a second James was born c1883
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ArgyllGran
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6 Feb 2014 10:44 |
You're right about the marriage year, Reggie - silly me.
The only possible marriages, then (barring wild spelling of Kendall) - or maybe they didn't actually marry - are these, though not in any obvious places:
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%) KENDALL James Kendal 10b 1021 Pepper Margaret Kendal 10b 1021 ROBERTS Mary Ann Kendal 10b 1021 WALKER Anthony Hodgson Kendal 10b 1021
Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%) Harris Mary Annie Swansea 11a 659 Kendall James Edward Swansea 11a 659 MORRIS Daniel Swansea 11a 659 WILLIAMS Elizabeth Ann Swansea 11a 659
There are dozens of marriages of Mary Ann Wilkinson. all over the place - too many to look at.
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6 Feb 2014 10:40 |
It may, of course, be the case that they never actually married................
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6 Feb 2014 10:35 |
1862 would make Mary no more than 10/11 when the marriage took place..................
..............and that Mary may have been married before
Name: James Kendall
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Baxter Or Sprate Event Date: 09 Jul 1862 Event Place: Saint Mary Spital Square Or Wheeler Chapel,Spitalfields,London,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04265-1 System Origin: England-ODM
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Oops...........already found by Mel - but confirmation never goes amiss
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6 Feb 2014 10:31 |
Get a copy of this - for FACTS about the mother
Births Jun 1876 (>99%) KENDALL Arthur James W. Ham 4a 21
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6 Feb 2014 10:28 |
His birth may not have been registered - no penalty until 1875
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6 Feb 2014 10:27 |
FMP's 1891 - for birthplace info for the children.................
1891 census
Person: KENDALL, James Address: 32, Stamford Road, Tottenham
KENDALL, James Head Married M 49 1842 Decorator Northampton VIEW KENDALL, Mary A Wife Married F 39 1852 Confectioner Leeds, Yorkshire VIEW KENDALL, Mary A Daughter Single F 20 1871 Charwoman Stratford, Essex VIEW KENDALL, Annie M Daughter Single F 16 1875 Charwoman Stratford, Essex VIEW KENDALL, Arthur J Son M 15 1876 Decorator Stratford, Essex VIEW KENDALL, William J Son M 12 1879 Scholar Stratford, Essex VIEW KENDALL, James Son M 8 1883 Scholar Tottenham, Middlesex VIEW KENDALL, John H Son M 3 1888 Tottenham, Middlesex
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6 Feb 2014 10:26 |
???
Births Mar 1842 (>99%) KENDALL James Market Harborough 15 185
Births Jun 1842 (>99%) KENDALL James Market Harborough 15 179
These are the only James Kendall (or variation) births in Northants 1840-5
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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6 Feb 2014 10:25 |
Here is that marriage.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Mary Ann Baxter Name: Mary Ann Baxter Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808***************** Age: 54****************************** Spouse Name: James Kendale Spouse Age: 60******************************** Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 9 Jul 1862 Parish: Spital Square, St Mary Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Wm Spratt Spouse Father: Wm Kendale Register Type: Parish Register
Both widow and widower and James is a Mariner so I don't think this is your man.
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ErikaH
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6 Feb 2014 10:24 |
So it is JAMES...............not JOHN
And why did you say that he married Wilkinson when there is absolutely nothing to support the idea?
You say you've 'traced' these people - how?
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6 Feb 2014 10:22 |
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1861 England Census about James Kendal Name: James Kendal Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: 1843 Relation: Apprentice Gender: Male Where born: Corknoe, Northamptonshire, England [Cooknoe/Cogenhoe, Northamptonshire, England] Civil Parish: Northampton All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: St Katherine Town: Northampton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Northampton Sub-registration District: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 73 Piece: 940 Folio: 49 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age John Lowe 38 Harriet Lowe 30 Thomas Lowe 7 John Lowe 4 James Kendal 18 - Hairdresser apprentice
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