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Well found Kucinta! - You have been very busy whilst I have been asleep :-D

I am sure that Richard will be thrilled with all of this info.

Dea x

A tree on ancestry has two more children for John Anthony Roach, namely Lilian Eileen Birth 2 Nov 1912, and Cedric Edgar Birth 9 Mar 1915.

It also says Edith is Edith Winifred Mabel Yates and gives baptism details but no marriage details, and has a photo of John Anthony Roach.

Name: Edith Winifred Mabel Yates
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Jul 1887
Father's Name: Alfred Yates
Mother's Name: Maria Amelia Caroline Yates
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

The tree has no parents for Edward Saxton Tully or John Anthony Roach.

Marigold Eunice also died in England under her married name:

Name: Marigold Eunice Bailes
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1910
Date of Registration: May 2003
Age at Death: 92
Registration District: Hillingdon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Register Number: B44B
District and Subdistrict: 236/1B
Entry number: 78

Death of Edred Algernon Roach in England:

Name: Edred Algenon Roach
Birth Date: 26 Jun 1908
Date of Registration: May 2001
Age at Death: 92
Registration District: Croydon
Inferred County: London, Surrey
Register Number: B91B
District and Subdistrict: 2251B
Entry number: 32

Gerard/Gerald Arnold Roach also died in England. Birth date tallies with same on baptism:

Name: Gerald Arnold Roach
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1903
Date of Registration: May 1992
Age at Death: 88
Registration District: Barking and Dagenham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 11
Page: 93

His travel?

Name: Arnold gerald Roach
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 47
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1950
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Bombay]
Ship Name: Strathnaver
Search Ship Database:
Shipping Line: P and O Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 162619

EDIT: Accompanied by Ellen Roach also 47, heading for Old Park Barracks, Dover, Kent. Engineer India.

Milton Egbert Roach died in England:

Name: Milton Egbert Roach
Birth Date: 30 May 1905
Date of Registration: Aug 1995
Age at Death: 90
Registration District: Enfield
Inferred County: Middlesex
Register Number: C35D
District and Subdistrict: 2271C
Entry number: 18


His travel?

Name: Milton Roach
Birth Date: abt 1905
Age: 47
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 16 Jun 1952
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Bombay]
Ship Name: Maloja
S
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 145437

Edit: With Milton came these Roaches, Beryl, 32, Justin 11, Clive 9, Denzil 7, Martin 5 and Tilene 3, heading for 115 Third Avenue Dagenham Essex, Motor mech Assam.

Death of Edith Wnifred Roach wife of J A Roach:

Name: Edith Winifred Roach
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 18 Mar 1918
Burial Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Death Date: 17 Mar 1918
Death Place:
Age: 32
Birth Date: 1886
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: J. A. Roach
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00210-6
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 527484
Reference ID:

Looking at dates of infant Edith Grace,who died in post above, Edith Winifred's death may have been childbirth related? Or maybe they died of the same illness,

sad one:

Name: Edith Grace Roach
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 16 Mar 1918
Burial Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Death Date: 16 Mar 1918
Death Place:
Age: 0
Birth Date: 1918
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: J. A. Roach<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<??????
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00210-6
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 527484
Reference ID:

familysearch again:

familysearch.org

Other baptisms from family search

???

Name: Milton Egbert Roach
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Jul 1905
Christening Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Birth Date: 30 May 1905
Birthplace: Madras, India
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Roach
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Edith Winifred
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00072-2
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 527470
Reference ID:

Name: Gerald Arnold Roach
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 28 Jan 1904
Christening Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1903
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Roach
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Edith Winifred
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00072-0
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 527468
Reference ID:

Edred Algeron had father John Anthony Roach in marriage in my previous post, but plain Father John and mother Edith for baptism:

Name: Edred Algernon Roach
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Jul 1908
Christening Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Birth Date: 26 Jun 1908
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Roach
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Edith
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00072-7
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 527473
Reference ID:

From family search:

Name: Edred Algernon Roach<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date: 1908
Birthplace:
Age: 24
Spouse's Name: Phyllis Marjorie May Dawes
Spouse's Birth Date: 1909
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 23
Event Date: 08 Aug 1932
Event Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Father's Name: John Anthony Roach<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Ludwick Norman Dawes
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00113-7
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 528779
Reference ID:

Name: Harry Norman Bailes
Birth Date: 1906
Birthplace:
Age: 27
Spouse's Name: Marigold Eunice Roach<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Birth Date: 1911
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 22
Event Date: 17 Apr 1933
Event Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Father's Name: George Bailes
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Anthony Roach<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00113-8
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 528780
Reference ID:

Thanks roorgatherer that was Loraine's grandmother who I had met. She had six children and I have not as yet worked out how many grand and great grand children. She died in 2000.

No middle name for John Roach here.

Name: Geraldine Adelina Roach
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 11 Apr 1907
Christening Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1907
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Roach
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Edith
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00072-5
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 463303
Reference ID:

Sorry folks as Dea said that was my first time on the board. Please shout at me if I make any c---ups.
now for the answers to all your questions:- Edward Saxton Tully was her father he worked on the Indian railway as an engine drive out of Kazipet Junction. Her mothers maiden name was Lever (ursula Millencent) dob 2/11/1934 dod 28/12/2010. Her grandmother's maiden name was Roach(Geraldine Adelina) dob 11/3/07 dod 2000. So that makes John Anthony Roach was her great grand father.
Thanks to the DetEcTive for the info i have been on that sight and found out a lot more but still nothing on Edward nor when John A got married.
I originally thought that J.A. Roach came from London but I have managed to rule that one out.
Hope this essay clears thing up a bit

Where was EDWARD born?

Whose father was ROACH?

Richard, I haven't been able to find anything so far I am afraid but what puzzles me is that you have her father as 'Edward Saxton Tully' and then her Great grand father as 'John Anthony Roach'.

How have you got back to Mr. Roach when you haven't got any details of the generation inbetween, or, is Mr. Roach her Great Grandfather on her mother's side, if so, can you give us the details of her mother and family please?

Do you have any certs which might give details of any professions, addresses, or witnesses to marriages etc?

Please tell us ALL you know and we might have a better chance of finding something for you.

Dea x

Agreed.............it is utterly stupid of GR to persist with this, but they won't listen to reason!

Hi Reggie,

Richard is a new poster and I would think that he probably believes that he has marked Prickles' question as being answered.

Those of us who have been using these boards for a long time realise the stupidity of the 'tick as answered' option which is STILL being offered by GR.

For future reference Richard, always ignore that particular option as it is meant only to be used to indicate that the whole query on the thread has been answered and no further help is required on the subject. A lot of people therefore will not look at your query once it has been ticked.

Dea x

As you have 'marked as answered' can we assume that you require no further assistance?

There does not appear to be an appropriate birth registered for a John Anthony Roach in England or Wales.