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Thanks,MC!

On the link that Jude gave:
http://www.westchestergov.com/recordcenter/marriages.asp?NAV=8&pageNum=C

There's a marriage for:
Curteas Charlotte E.A. 3592 1927

It's such a shame that you can't match them to the relevant spouse.

So did Edward die or was there a divorce?

Maureen

I'm pretty sure that's her Maureen.

On the image she's with William Froehlich 61 from Germany, a machinist and Augusta Froehlich, age 13.

There are no marital status on that census.

William is listed as "Father" and Anna as "Sister" so wonder if Augusta give the information for that census?

I can't read it but this may be Anna (Charlotte):
New York, State Census, 1925 about Anna Curtis
Name: Anna Curtis
Birth Date: abt 1901
Birth Place: United States
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Residence Place: Greenburgh, Westchester
Relationship: Sister
Color or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 24
Assembly District: 04
House Number: 537
Line Number: 27
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Man Frocklick 61
A?? Frocklick 13
Anna Curtis 24
Source Citation: New York State Archives; Albany, New York; State Population Census Schedules, 1925; Election District: 13; Assembly District: 04; City: Greenburgh; County: Westchester; Page: 7


Maureen

Haven't found them yet in 1930 but father William's 1903 passport application has some useful info for tracing her:

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925

Name: William Frohlich
Birth Date: 28 Apr 1864
Birth Place: Koske, Germany
Age: 39
Passport Issue Date: 22 May 1903
Passport Includes a Photo: No
Residence: Hartingster, Hudson, New York

Included on the passport application is wife Anna born 2 Feb 1873 in New York and daughter Charlotte born 16 Feb 1901 Hastings on Hudson.

Yes the very person! Married at 22 and is now a Curteis. Is she in the 1930 census as a Curteis?

This is Charlotte AKA Anna



1920 United States Federal Census

Name:Anna Froehlich[Anna Fracklighs]
Age:18

Birth Year:abt 1902

Birthplace:New York

Home in 1920:Hastings-on-Hudson, Westchester, New York Warbutton Ave

Race:White

Gender:Female

Relation to Head of House:Daughter

Marital Status:Single

Father's Name:William Froehlich

Father's Birthplace:
Germany[Schlesien]

Mother's name:Anna Froehlich

Mother's Birthplace:New York


Household Members:

William Froehlich 56 <<Pipe fitter, plumbing
Anna Froehlich 47
Anna Froehlich 18
Augusta Froehlich 8

Hi All,
Have just received my grandfathers marriage cert from Westchester Archives. It looks like he was a naughty boy. Edward Sidney married Charlotte Elizabeth Anna Froelich 25 July 1922 in Tarrytown NY. Both married for the 1st time, Edward 30, Charlotte 21 ( Edward should be 35). Parents of Edward are correct, and for Charlotte, father William and mother Anna Marie Wacenfield both from NY City. Edward is a professional golfer and Charlotte a clerk. They live at537 Warburton Ave, Hastings on Hudson.
Well where to now? Can't find any death records. We're there any children? As she was only 21 there must be so where do you look for the records?

Hi all, I am waiting for the marriage cert and will update when it comes. Tried the air link but they have said I need to send further info that I haven't got. No further on the death also and any further children.
Thanks
Andrew

Maureen ha! :-D

Just waiting for Andrew to come back now!

Jude

:-| :-| :-|
I really MUST be blind.

SORRY to Jude-I really don't know how I missed that link you gave. I may have thought it was something for Fred. Hardie.

Sorry, too ,for the delay in responding. Was off doing a house-sitting stint for a family member with no computer access.

I promise to try harder in future. :-)

Moxxx

Jude posted a link 20 Jan. 07:17

I posted this link on page 2 Maureen

http://www.westchestergov.com/recordcenter/marriages.asp?NAV=8&pageNum=C

Jude

Andrew wrote:
"Have requested the marriage cert for Edward from Westchester. Lets hope that it is the right one. You can only do this by snail mail and they wont accept credit cards."
.................
OK-I'm blind. Where did that marriage info come from please???

Maureen

Gins, it's his Airman's Record (Chris posted on page 1)

Air Ministry: Air Member for Personnel and predecessors: Airmen's Records
Reference:AIR 79

Air Ministry: Air Member for Personnel and predecessors: Airmen's Records

Description:
This series contains service records for airmen of the Royal Air Force (RAF) who served during the First World War.

Note: Some AIR 79 records are noted as 'Record Not Available'. There are two reasons for this. Either the individual was commissioned from the ranks and his RAF airmen's record no longer survives, or the airman served after the late 1920s and in many cases into the Second World War and his record has yet to be transferred. In the case of those men who were commissioned, their records may be in AIR 76. The records of those airmen whose service continued into the 1930s and 1940s will be transferred at a later date.
Date: 1918-1928

Arrangement:
The records are arranged in service number order and by name of airman.

Related Material: A nominal index to later service records not yet transferred to the National Archives is available to download free of charge as part of the Digital Microfilm project in
Records of service for RAF officers are in AIR 76
AIR 78
Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record Language: English Physical description: 2807 file(s) Access conditions: Open

Not sure what this is?


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C11655785

Cost three times as much to get a bank cheque for $15 US. Still need the info.Has anybody any idea where I could search for his death or if he had more children in the second marriage.

Hi HeyJudeB4Beatles,
Have requested the marriage cert for Edward from Westchester. Lets hope that it is the right one. You can only do this by snail mail and they wont accept credit cards.
Thanks for this Andrew

There's a link to him here in 1922

http://www.westchestergov.com/recordcenter/marriages.asp?NAV=8&pageNum=C

Following Frederick and Estelle
Between 1919 and 1928 they were back and forth to London - an address in Kensington accompanied from 1925 with son Miles Clayon (later OBE) born 1924

Then there is this.....

Name: Estelle M H Hardie
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Sep 1929
Age at Death: 32
Registration District: Westhampnett
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 424

Guessing - given the registration district that this is Frederick

Name: Frederick R Hardie
Birth Date: abt 1895
Date of Registration: Sep 1930
Age at Death: 35
Registration District: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 120

and his probate...sadly no mention of Edward!

Name: Frederick Russell Hardie
Probate Date: 3 Mar 1931
Death Date: 27 Aug 1930
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

I think the seven year thing is the time when a missing person can be assumed dead....but he was hardly missing! Your grandmother's second marriage would be a good certificate to purchase just to see what her status was given as. Of course, if she said she was widowed, they probably would have taken her word for it.

Jude