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Mable Tooke born 1917 Stockton

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Margaret

Margaret Report 12 Feb 2014 20:19

Hi
Mabel Tooke, 09/03/1917, Stockton on tees , my husbands mam
Her parents are
Jesse Tooke 1891 , Stockton
He married Mary Carter in 1913 .

Thanks for Frederick's, 1861 ( he is dad of Jesse) parents,

But struggling to find his wife Elizabeth's I think they were married in Norfolk in approx 1898.?

Can you help
Thanks margaret :-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Feb 2014 08:05

To be sure Margaret, you would need the 1884 Marriage Cert. for details. PH has posted on page 1, also looking at 1911 there, some Baptisms Norfolk, on below link.

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place East Dereham
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber 1113
DateOfBirth 15 Jul 1890
BaptismDate 15 Aug 1890
Forename Jesse William
Sex M
FatherForename Frederick
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname TOOKE
MotherSurname
Abode Dereham
FatherOccupation Carpenter

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place East Dereham
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber 833
DateOfBirth 09 Jan 1888
BaptismDate 09 Mar 1888
Forename Mabel Mary
Sex F
FatherForename Frederick
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname TOOK
MotherSurname
Abode Dereham
FatherOccupation Carpenter


Baptism
County Norfolk
Place East Dereham
Church St Nicholas Tr
RegisterNumber 380
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 11 Dec 1864
Forename Elizabeth
Sex -
FatherForename William
MotherForename Susanna
FatherSurname BARKER
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation Bricklayer

(above could be a possible, Cert. would be needed)

Chris :)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Feb 2014 09:44

Hi Margaret

"IF" the above baptism is correct.........


1881 England Census
about William Barker
Name:William Barker
Age:52

Estimated birth year:abt 1829
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender:Male
Where born:E Dereham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:East Dereham
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England

Street address:High Street
Marital Status:Widow
Occupation:Bricklayer
Registration district:Mitford
Sub-registration district:East Dereham


Household Members:

William Barker 52 (Widower) Bricklayer
James Barker 22 (Shoemaker)
Lucy Barker 19 (Housekeeper)
Elizth Barker 15
Harriett Barker 11
Susanna Burton 29 (Niece)



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about William Barker
Name:William Barker
Estimated birth year:abt 1828
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1890
Age at Death:62
Registration district:Mitford
Inferred County:Norfolk
Volume:4b
Page:163



1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Barker
Name:Elizabeth Barker
Age:6
Estimated birth year:abt 1865
Relation:Daughter
Gender:Female

Where born:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:East Dereham
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England
Registration district:Mitford
Sub-registration district:East Dereham
Household Members:

William Barker Head 47 (Bricklayers Jour)
Susanna Barker 47 (Wife)
Henery Barker 17 (Gardeners Man)
Ann Barker 13 (Domestic Servant)
James Barker 12
Elizabeth Barker 6
Harriet Barker 2


1861 England Census
about William Barker
Name:William Barker
Age:36
Estimated birth year:1825
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Susannah Barker
Gender:Male
Where born:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:East Dereham
Town:East Dereham
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England


Registration district:Mitford
Sub-registration district:East Dereham

Household Members:

William Barker 36 (Bricklayers Jour)
Susannah Barker 33
William Barker 8
Henry Barker 7
Ann Barker 3
James Barker 1

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Feb 2014 10:15

Thank you :-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Feb 2014 10:43


England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
about William Barker
Name:William Barker
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:15 Aug 1852
Marriage Place:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Spouse: Susannah Wacey


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Henry Barker
Name:Henry Barker
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:14 May 1854
Baptism Place:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Father: William Barker
Mother:Susannah


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Ann Barker
Name:Ann Barker
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:12 Jul 1857
Baptism Place:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Father: William Barker
Mother: Susannah


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about James Barker
Name:James Barker
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:9 Oct 1859
Baptism Place:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Father: William Barker
Mother: Susan



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Lucy Barker
Name:Lucy Barker
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:22 Jun 1862
Baptism Place:East Denham, Norfolk, England
Father:William Barker
Mother: Susanna


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Harriet Barker
Name:Harriet Barker
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:31 May 1868
Baptism Place:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Father: William Barker
Mother:Susanna Barker

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Feb 2014 11:28

Hmmm, I wonder if this is William and he was married before...

??


1851 England Census
about William Baker
Name:William Baker
Age:25
Estimated birth year:abt 1826
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Mary Baker
Gender:Male
Where born:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:East Dereham
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England


Registration district:Mitford
Sub-registration district:Dereham

Household Members:

William Baker 25 (Bricklayer)
Mary Baker 26 (Dressmaker) Sprowston Norfolk

??


1841 England Census about William Baker
Name:William Baker[William Barker]
Age:16
Estimated birth year:abt 1825
Gender:Male
Where born:Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:East Dereham
Hundred:Launditch and Mitford
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England


Registration district:Mitford
Sub-registration district:East Dereham

Household Members:

Mary Baker 35 (Pauper)
William Baker 16
Lucy Baker 13
John Baker 11
James Baker 7
Anna Baker 5

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Feb 2014 13:45

Ah.........this is interesting!

I have checked out the Niece....Susannah Burton who appears on the 1881 census.


1861 England Census
about Susannah Burton
Name:Susannah Burton
Age:14
Estimated birth year:1847
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:William Burton
Mother's name:Emma Burton
Gender:Female
Where born:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:East Dereham
Town:East Dereham
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England


Registration district:Mitford
Sub-registration district:East Dereham

Household Members:

William Burton 39 (Whitesmith)
Emma Burton 39
Susannah Burton 14 (I think Susannah's age is an error!)
William Burton 9
Ann Burton 4
Ann Wacey 71 (Mother in Law)

So Emma Burton must be Susannah's married Sister and Ann Wacey is their Mother.


Susannah Burton is a Servant in the 1871 census and not with the family.


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Susanna Burton
Name:Susanna Burton
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:31 Aug 1851
Baptism Place:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Father: William Burton
Mother: Emma



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about William Burton
Name:William Burton
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:22 Oct 1854
Baptism Place:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Father: William Burton
Mother: Emma



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Ann Burton
Name:Ann Burton
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:8 Feb 1857
Baptism Place:East Dersham Parish, Norfolk County, England
Father: William Burton
Mother: Emma


1851 England Census
about Emma Burton
Name:Emma Burton
Age:29
Estimated birth year:abt 1822
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name:William Burton
Gender:Female
Where born:Dereham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:East Dereham
Town:East Dereham
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England


Registration district:Mitford
Sub-registration district:Dereham

William Burton 28 (Whitesmith)
Emma Burton 29
Ann Wacey (Widow) Pauper
Susan Wacey (Sister in Law) <<<<<<<<< Difficult to read her age!

Emma and William are living next door to William and Susannah Barker in 1871


1871 England Census
about Emma Burton
Name:Emma Burton
Age:50
Estimated birth year:abt 1821
Relation:Wife
Gender:Female
Where born:East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:East Dereham
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England

William Burton 49
Emma Burton 50
William Burton 16
Ann Burton 14
Ann Wacey 80 (Mother in Law)



Deaths Sep 1873 (>99%)
WACEY Anne 85 Mitford 4b 188



Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Feb 2014 18:48

Thank you
I'm getting quite a lot of information to give my husband on his birthday about his past
Can u help
Frederick carter, born 1864 in Stockton on tees but having problems finding his parents
:-D

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Feb 2014 19:22

Found them
I think I only have one last missing link
;-)

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Feb 2014 19:44

Hi
In the threads Mabel ( my husbands mum) married James eadsforth born 1909 , I've got his dad as James 1880 (trimdon) then his dad John eadsforth 1840 born in Chorley but cannot find his parents, can u help
Then I,ve done it

I think

<3

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Feb 2014 10:01


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about John Edward Eidesforth
Name:John Edward Eidesforth
(John Edward Eadsforth)
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1839
Registration district:Chorley
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:21
Page:321



England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about John Edward Eadesforth
Name:John Edward Eadesforth
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1859
Registration district:Stockton
Inferred County:Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 85
John Edward Eadesforth
Mary Lamb



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about John Edward Eadsforth
Name:John Edward Eadsforth
Estimated birth year:abt 1840
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1909
Age at Death:69
Registration district:Easington
Inferred County:Durham
Volume:10a
Page:259





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Feb 2014 10:16


1851 England Census
about John E Eidsforth
Name:John E Eidsforth
(John E Eadsforth])
Age:11
Estimated birth year:abt 1840
Relation:Stepson
Mother's name:Dorothy Webster
Gender:Male
Where born:Chorley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Chorley
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Chorley
Sub-registration district:Chorley

John Webster 46
Dorothy Webster 45
Harriot Webster 7
Mary Webster 5
Thomas Webster 3
Henry Eidsforth 13
John E Eidsforth 11
Thomas Whitehead 41 Widower (Lodger)<<<<<<< Interesting!



Marriages Mar 1842 (>99%)
EADSFORTH Dorothy Chorley 21 171
WEBSTER John Chorley 21 171



1841 England Census
about John Edesforth
Age:2
Estimated birth year:abt 1839
Gender:Male
Where born:Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Chorley
Hundred:Leyland
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Chorley
Sub-registration district:Chorley

Dorothy Edesforth 35 (Provisions Dealer)
Clara Norris 15
Ellen Norris 15
William Norris 14
Henry Edesforth 4
John Edesforth 2

(Res: Hollingshead Street)

Note that a few properties above Dorothy Eadsforth.......is an Alexander Eadsforth age 30, James Eadsforth age 2 and Nancy age 25. There might possibly be a family connection.

ADDED.........

It seems that Alexander Eadsforth is the brother of Doroth's second husband Thomas Eadsforth.

Alexander married Nancy Slater......(Apart from the 1841 census, she obviously preferred to be called Ann)

Alexander and Ann (Nancy) were the witnesses attending Ellen Norris's marriage.



Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Alexander Eadsforth
Name:Alexander Eadsforth (Bachelor) Spinner....Hollingshead Street
Age:Full Age
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:25 Nov 1838
Parish:Chorley, St Laurence
Spouse:Nancy Slater (Spinster)
Spouse Age:Full Age
Father:Alexander Eadsforth (Spinner)
Spouse Father:Henry Slater (Weaver)
Reference Number:Pr3120/1/5
Witnesses: Richard Cotterold? and Ellen Chadwicks.

So you now have the name and occupation of John Edward Eadsforth's Grandfather!

:-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Feb 2014 10:45

According to several tree's on Ancestry, this is Dorothy's first marriage....which explains the Norris children in the 1841 census...


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Dorothy White
Name:Dorothy White
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:19 Oct 1823
Parish:Chorley, St Laurence
Spouse:George Norris
Reference Number:Pr 2799/7

Dorothy's second marriage...


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Thomas Edsforth
Name:Thomas Edsforth
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:18 Oct 1829
Parish:Chorley, St Laurence
Spouse:Drothy Norris
Reference Number:Pr 2799/8



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Thomas Eidesforth
Name:Thomas Eidesforth
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1839
Registration district:Chorley
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:21
Page:258


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Dorothy Whitehead
Name:Dorothy Whitehead
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:16 Oct 1806
Baptism Place:Saint Thomas-Rc,Claughton On Brock,Lancashire,England
Father: Henry Whitehead
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number:
942 B4C V. 20



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Dorothy Webster
Name:Dorothy Webster
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1864
Registration district:Chorley
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8e
Page:295

Siblings....

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Helen Whitehead
Name:Helen Whitehead
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:7 Oct 1798
Baptism Place:Saint Thomas-Rc,Claughton On Brock,Lancashire,England
Father: Henry Whitehead
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number:
942 B4C V. 20



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Wm. Whitehead
Name:Wm. Whitehead
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:24 May 1792
Baptism Place:Saint Thomas-Rc,Claughton On Brock,Lancashire,England
Father: Henry Whitehead
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number:
942 B4C V. 20



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about John Whitehead
Name:John Whitehead
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:19 Jul 1794
Baptism Place:Saint Thomas-Rc,Claughton On Brock,Lancashire,England
Father: Henry Whitehead
Mother:Mary
FHL Film Number:
942 B4C V. 20



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Ann Whitehead
Name:Ann Whitehead
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:7 Aug 1796
Baptism Place:Saint Thomas-Rc,Claughton On Brock,Lancashire,England
Father: Henry Whitehead
Mother:Mary
FHL Film Number:
942 B4C V. 20



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about John Whitehead
Name:John Whitehead
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:3 Apr 1803
Baptism Place:
Saint Thomas-Rc,Claughton On Brock,Lancashire,England
Father: Henry Whitehead
Mother:Mary
FHL Film Number:
942 B4C V. 20



England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
about John Whitehead




Name:John Whitehead
Gender:Male
Burial Date:6 Jun 1803
Burial Place:Garstang, Lancaster, England
Father: Henry Whitehead
FHL Film Number:1278886
Reference ID:2136



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Henry Whitehead
Name:Henry Whitehead
Gender:Male
Birth Date:17 Dec 1808
Baptism Date:18 Dec 1808
Baptism Place:Saint Mary-Rc,Garstang,Lancashire,England
Father: Harry Whitehead
Mother: Molly ??
FHL Film Number:
0599710 IT 2

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Feb 2014 11:35


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Ellen Norris
Name:Ellen Norris (Spinster)
Age:11 >>>>>Age 21 on the image.
Fathers Name: George Worthington>>>> George Norris on the image (Sawyer)
Spouse Father:Robert Norris>> Robert Worthington on the image (Riviter/Glazier)
Reference Number:
Pr 3123/1/11
Witnesses: Alexander Eadsforth and Anne Eadsforth.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Feb 2014 13:07

Going back to the "Visitor" Thomas Whitehead in the 1851 census....

He appears to be Dorothy's Brother...


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Thomas Whitehead
Name:Thomas Whitehead (Widower) Cotton? Printer
Age:45
Birth Year:abt 1810
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:7 Oct 1855
Parish:Chorley, St Laurence
Spouse:Elizabeth Hesketh (Widow) Servant
Spouse Age:42
Father: Henry Whitehead (Printer)
Spouse Father:John Lucas
Reference Number:
Pr3120/1/6
Witnesses: John and Dorothy Webster.




PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Feb 2014 13:49

Dorothy's parents marriage....

???

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
about Henry Whitehead
Name:Henry Whitehead
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:11 Jul 1791
Marriage Place:Garstang, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Mary Jenkinson
FHL Film Number:1278886
Reference ID:402

Henry is living next door to Dorothy in 1841...



1841 England Census
about Henry Whitehead
Name:Henry Whitehead
Age:65
Estimated birth year:abt 1776
Gender:Male
Where born:Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Chorley
Hundred:Leyland
County/Island:Lancashire Country:England
Registration district:Chorley
Sub-registration district:Chorley

Household Members:

Henry Whitehead 65 (Cotton Printer)
William Whitehead 45 (Cotton Printer)
John Saylor 15

(Res: Hollingshead Street)



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Whitehead
Name:Henry Whitehead
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1850
Registration district:Chorley
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:21
Page:283


Son William's Baptism....



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Wm. Whitehead Name:Wm. Whitehead
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:24 May 1792
Baptism Place:Saint Thomas-Rc,Claughton On Brock,Lancashire,England
Father: Henry Whitehead
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number:942 B4C V. 20

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Feb 2014 14:33


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Henry Whitchead Name:Henry Whitchead ?? Bachelor....Shoemaker
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:18 Oct 1829
Parish:Chorley, St Laurence
Spouse: Jane Green (Spinster)
Reference Number:Pr 2799/8
Witnesses: John Calderbanks? and Caroline Woodhouse.



Lancashire, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1986
about Jane Whitehead
Name:Jane Whitehead
Birth Year:abt 1811
Burial Age:21
Burial Date:2 Feb 1832
Burial Parish:Chorley, St Laurence
Reference Number:
Pr 2799/13


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Henry Whitehead
Name:Henry Whitehead (Widower) Shoemaker
Age:40
Birth Year:abt 1807
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:26 Jun 1847
Parish:Chorley, St Laurence
Spouse:Ann Lee (Spinster)
Spouse Age:32
Father:Henry Whitehead (Printer)
Spouse Father:James Lee (Labourer)
Reference Number:Pr3120/1/5
Witnesses: John Holding? or Polding? and Dorothy Webster.



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Whitehead
Name:Henry Whitehead
Estimated birth year:abt 1809
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1881
Age at Death:72
Registration district:Chorley
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8e
Page:281

Prickles. :-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Feb 2014 15:34

Afternoon.

Further proof that John Edward Eadsforth's father was indeed Thomas Eadsforth.

John's brother Henry.

Henry's surname appears as Eidsforth in the records. I have checked the 1861, 1871 and 1881 census records and it all fits with this information...

Are you ready for this? :-D

Right...........

Henry married in 1860...


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Henry Eidsforth
Name:Henry Eidsforth (Bachelor) Spinner
Age:22
Birth Year:abt 1838
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:28 Jul 1860
Parish:Chorley, St Peter
Spouse:Mary Bromley (Spinster)
Spouse Age:22
Father:Thomas Eidsforth (Spinner)
Spouse Father:Thomas Bromley (Weaver)
Reference Number:Pr3125/1/3
Witnesses: James Bromley and Clara Gradwell?

Mary died in 1880...

Deaths Sep 1880 (>99%)
Eidsforth Mary 42 Chorley 8e 331


Henry didn't waste much time and he remarried in December of the same year...


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Margaret Bromiley
Name:Margaret Bromiley (Widow)
Age:Full Age
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:18 Nov 1880
Parish:Chorley, St Laurence
Spouse:Henry Eidsforth (Widower) Spinner
Spouse Age:Full Age
Father:John Amsworth (Labourer)
Spouse Father:Thomas Eidsforth (Spinner)
Reference Number:Pr3120/1/7
Witnesses: John and Alice Bromily


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Feb 2014 15:41

Margaret died in 1884...

Deaths Mar 1884 (>99%)
EIDSFORTH Margaret 46 Chorley 8e 342

Henry remarried for the 3rd time in 1885............Phew! :-D


Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
about Mary Ann Livesey
Name:Mary Ann Livesey (Widow)
Age:39
Birth Year:abt 1846
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:14 Mar 1885
Parish:Chorley, St James
Spouse:Henry Eidsforth (Widower) Spinner
Spouse Age:47
Spouse Father:Thomas Eidsforth (Spinner)
Reference Number:Pr 3124/1/2
Witnesses: Thomas and Nancy Heald

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Feb 2014 16:01

Henry and Mary Ann had a son later that year...


Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
about Thomas Henry Eidsforth
Name:Thomas Henry Eidsforth (Spinner) 6 Aldred Street.
Birth Date:15 Sep 1885
Baptism Date:4 Oct 1885
Parish:Chorley, St James
Father:Henry Eidsforth
Mother:Mary Ann Eidsforth

Just off to see if i can find Thomas in the 1891 and 1901 census.