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12 Jan 2014 18:05 |
Births Jun 1864 MAYO Caroline Jane Holborn 1b 497
The reason there is no marriage to Henry Harris is that she was already married :-)
and ordinary people seldom got divorced at that time, they just moved on
of the couples who married in 1884, Edwards probably married Sheppard: John and Amy E Edwards in Hackney in 1891
so Mayo married Blanchard but I can't trace him ...
whoever made that tree just took the 'estimated marriage date' / years married from the 1911 census and did not bother finding a real marriage
edit, I expect this is her death
Name: Caroline J Harris Birth Date: abt 1864 Date of Registration: Dec 1922 Age at Death: 58 Registration District: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 803
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patchem
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12 Jan 2014 16:45 |
Father is a butcher Barlow Harris Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 22 Sep 1899 Father's Name: Henry Robert Harris Mother's Name: Caroline Jane Harris Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth St John the Evangelist Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers
Added; Born 29 April 1895, also baptised Doris and Robert at the same time
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12 Jan 2014 16:39 |
1911 England Census Caroline Harris Age in 1911: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 34 Faulkner St, New Cross S E Marital Status: Married 27 Years Estimated Marriage Year: 1884 Occupation: COTTON BAG TRADE Registration District: Greenwich Registration District Number: 28 Sub-registration District: Deptford South ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 2643 Caroline Harris 45 15 children, 8 living Barlow Harris 15 Doris Harris 12 Leonard Harris 9 Martha Harris 7 Irene Harris 2 Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 2643.
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12 Jan 2014 16:35 |
I think this is the Henry Harris who marries Caroline: 1901 England Census Henry Harris Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Caroline Harris Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England Civil Parish: St George the Martyr County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 43 Clifton Buildings Occupation: Journeyman butcher Henry Harris 45 Caroline Harris 37 Barlow Harris 5 Doris Harris 2 Robert Harris 1
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LadyKira
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12 Jan 2014 16:29 |
I did say not necessarily accurate Mike*
I have been searching with just the term 1838 +/- 5 occupation butcher with no name and I have not found him.
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12 Jan 2014 16:11 |
The marriage to Caroline Jane Mayo is quoted on those trees as being 1884 but not seeing a Henry Harris
Marriages Dec 1884 Blanchard Edward Guildford 2a 84 Edwards John Guildford 2a 84 Mayo Caroline Guildford 2a 84 Sheppard Amy Elizabeth Guildford 2a 84
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Ed
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12 Jan 2014 16:08 |
Appears that Jane may not have died. Supposedly there would have been a divorce? Nice to have confirmation re marriage
Thanks
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LadyKira
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12 Jan 2014 16:06 |
He had a brother London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Edward Arthur Harriss Name: Edward Arthur Harriss Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1844 Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1844 Father's Name: Jabez Harriss Mother's Name: Margaret Harriss Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark Christ Church Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers
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LadyKira
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12 Jan 2014 15:41 |
His baptism
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Henry Malcolm Robert Barlow Harris Name: Henry Malcolm Robert Barlow Harris Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 7 May 1848 Father's Name: Jabez Harris Mother's Name: Margaret Harris Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark Christ Church Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers
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LadyKira
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12 Jan 2014 15:39 |
A tree on Ancestry has a different wife although other trees may not be accurate.
Birth: Jun 1848 - England Parents: Jabez Harris, Margaret Duggin Spouse: Caroline Jane Mayo
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12 Jan 2014 15:33 |
Is this correct 1881?
Henry Harris 33 Jane Harris 43 Arthur Harris 5 Frederick Harris 3 Margaret Jones 17 Charles H. Heison 18 H.J. Van Hoen 28
if so, maybe Jane and children 1891
Thomas Mountfort 34 Jane Mountfort 33 Arthur H Harris 15 Frederick J Harris 13 Clara Owen 25 Ann Woodifer 38 Gustave A Hipperman 40
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Harris Jane Holborn 1b 1202 MOUNTFORT Thomas Holborn 1b 1202
Jane in both census born Pembrokeshire
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12 Jan 2014 15:32 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name:Henry Harris
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1848
Age:26
Spouse Name:Jane Bransford
Spouse Age:36
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:20 Dec 1874
Parish: St Giles without Cripplegate
Borough:City of London
Father Name:Tabez Harris
Spouse Father:James Deboneld
Register Type:Parish Register
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Ed
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12 Jan 2014 15:25 |
Henry born 7 Apr 1848 Lambeth to Jabez Harris and Margaret Duggin. In 1851/61 he is with parents in Lambeth Surrey. In 1911 he is in Islington Workhouse and shown as widowed and a butcher. I think in 1881 he is living in Clerkenwell with wife Jane and children. It appears that he may have married in 1874 to Jane Bransford nee Devonald. I can not find either Henry nor Jane in 1891 or 1901. Can someone have a look please?
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