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I don't see a Frederick James (or variation) with wife Sarah in 1911, at least not in West Derby.

Nor can I see a marriage for a Fred* (or James) Rix to a Sarah anywhere in England/Wales on FreeBMD 1880-1911.

But there's this one in 1913 - a possibility if Jean/Jane/Mary was born before their marriage??

Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
Benbow Sarah Rix W.Derby 8b 914
Rix Frederick Benbow W.Derby 8b 914

One subsequent birth from that marriage:
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Rix Hugh Benbow W. Derby 8b 1008

Is the Jane Rix you have found the Mary J Rix already posted by rootsgatherer?

Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
RIX Mary J W.Derby 8b 371

Pamela, in the post on your other thread, you say that you have found a Jean Rix b1911 with father Fred (as on the marriage cert you have also posted). Where have you found her?

This post should have been tagged on to here I think

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1336326

keep in mind also that if a woman marries under her deceased husband's surname, her children's birth records will still show her own birth surname, not her first husband's.

So the mother's surname Rix indicates that this was her surname at birth, not by first marriage.

However, it could have been a stepfather's surname, and the marriage record would help with that.

There is no Jean Rix in the 1911 census ...

Not sure that she would have been a widow Pamela. If the death in 1928 is her, then she married Reg when she was 17?

Just checked on Scotlandspeople - no births for a Jean (or forename variants) Rix. Not seeing an Irish birth either.

Let's hope the marriage cert. helps.

Hi Rootgatherer, I cant wait for this cert to come and I will let you know .
the more I think about it the first wife must be a widow as I cant find a birth for a jean rix . the only other thing I can think of that she was born in Scotland or Ireland '
thanks again Pam :-)

IF Reginald's second wife was a spinster, there is a possible birth for a daughter in 1944. Have you seen that please?

Let us know how you get on with the marriage certificate - just to clear up the birth of his first wife please.

Hi Rootgatherer thank you for you your help yes I do have what you last sent plus I found another marriage for Reginald Gorden McCann in dec qtr 1943 to a Nellie Evans in Liverpool and his death in 1946 mac qtr Liverpool . I think his first wife must have been a widow just waiting for the cert to comferm this or not thanks again Pam,

Assume to have these.......

Name: John Arnold McCann
Birth Date: 2 May
Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1897
Parish: Seaforth, St Thomas
Father's Name: James Arnold McCann
Mother's Name: Emma Sephia McCann
Reference Number: 283 THS/2/6

Name: John Arnald McCann, Engineer
Birth Year: abt 1897
Age: 21
Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1918
Parish: Seaforth, St Thomas
Spouse's Name: Winifred Norah Clark
Father's Name: James Arnald McCann (Deceased)
Spouse Father's Name: Louis Spencer Clark (Major A.S.C.)
Reference Number: 283 THS/3/3

Name: John Arnold McCann
Birth Date: 2 May 1897
Date of Registration: Jun 1984
Age at Death: 87
Registration District: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 707

I suggest that you purchase the death cert for the child..............to save looking any further for someone who didn't apparently survive.

I wondered about this possibly for Jean's birth if she was perhaps Mary Jane?

Births Jun 1911 RIX Mary J W.Derby 8b 371


The death that I posted above for Jean McCann, I thought was a possible if she had a complication when giving birth to the Arthur who seems to have been born and died in the March Quarter of the same year,



If you know for sure that Arthur was in the army, could he have been the son of one of Reginald's brothers and mmn not Rix?


1911 - for ref

Name: Reginald Gordon McCann
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Seaforth, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Litherland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Tattersall Road Litherland
Occupation: School
Registration District: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration District: Litherland
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 22338
Household Members:
Name Age
James Arnold McCann 44
Emma Letitia McCann 48
John Arnold McCann 13
Isabella Grace McCann 12
George Albert McCann 10
Reginald Gordon McCann 8

Arthur McCann is a 2nd cousin to my husband Reginald McCann is a brother to Isabella McCann my husbands gran there are to more brothers John Arnold McCann who died in London 1984 and George Robert McCann who went to Australia .I have looked for a birth for Jean Rix born abt 1909 with no luck so have sent for Reginald and jeans marriage cert and waiting for it to come

If you are looking for descendants of Reginald and Jean, you may well have wasted your money as it looks, at the moment, that their only child did not reach adulthood.

Can you say how you got back to Arthur please?

Hi Reggie ,hanks for getting in touch I have sent for the marriage cert and awaiting it arrival been looking on army births no uck so far

Marriages Sep 1926

Jones Frederick Wolstenholme Liverpool 8b 425
McCann Reginald G Rix Liverpool 8b 425
Rix Jeane McCann Liverpool 8b 425
Wolstenholme Adalaide Jones Liverpool 8b 425



The only McCann mmn Rix birth showing on FreeBMD

Births Mar 1928 McCann Arthur Rix Liverpool 8b 356



Name: Reginald G McCann
Birth Date: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Mar 1946
Age at Death: 43
Registration District: Liverpool North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 283


Births Mar 1903 McCann Reginald Gordon West Derby 8b 248


????

Name: Jean McCann
Birth Date: abt 1909
Date of Registration: Jun 1928
Age at Death: 19
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 95

Only ONE McCann/Rix birth anywhere on freebmd after 1926 (the year of the marriage of Reginald and Jean

Can you tell us how you relate to this family? And how much checking you have done..............

Did you actually obtain a copy of the marriage cert, to establish that the man who married was the son of the people whose names you give for his parents?

Pre-dates the marriage............so not relevant

Death

Name: MCCANN, Reginald G
Registration district: Liverpool North
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1946
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:43
Volume no: 8B
Page no: 283

Are you sure about his date of birth please?

Name: Arthur McCann
Mother's Maiden Surname: Rix
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 356


This would match the above?

Name: Arthur McCann
Birth Date: abt 1928
Date of Registration: Mar 1928
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 164



Did they name another son Arthur?