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catherine belcham v henry kerr

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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Dec 2013 09:49

Gracious folks, Henry is looking very interesting!...

(wonder if John has any other info. of things)

Chris :)

Flip

Flip Report 25 Dec 2013 09:27

Looks like another conviction - was given 4 months for simple larceny:

Henry Kerrs
Date of Trial: 20 Feb 1877
Trial Year: 1877
Location of Trial: Durham, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

And, I wonder about this?


Henry Ker
Date of Trial: 22 Oct 1888
Trial Year: 1888
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Acquittal
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Imag

Charge was embezzlement. ADDED - I don't think this is the same Henry, there was a report in the Post early October 1888, and he was 31.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Dec 2013 09:11

Sounds like they might have had an on-off relationship. He is mentioned in the 1893 article about the daughter Laura's bigamous husband. Quite likely on the 1901 he named his wife although she was elsewhere.

Very frustrating that the newspapers mention he had aliases but don't say what they were - could answer a few questions.

Flip

Flip Report 25 Dec 2013 09:02

Good find Marie, it certainly looks like him! Maybe they weren't really together in 1891/1901 - may explain her having to work as a charwoman.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Dec 2013 08:45

Yes! I'm pretty sure it is him per this newspaper article:

Headline: AN ALLEGED "LONG FIRM" SWINDLE.

Publication:Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette

Publication date:Tuesday 22 January 1884

Article text:
AN ALLEGED "LONG FIRM" SWINDLE. SUNDERLAND MAN TROUBLE. Yesterday, at Marlborough Street Police Court, London, Henry Kerr (52), who had given the address of Cross Place, Covent Garden, Sunderland, and who was said to have several aliases was brought before ......

The article states that he and his confederates had committed a number of frauds via newspaper adverts. He'd been arrested in Durham and brought to London.


Would be interesting to try and find his aliases.

ADDED: The Covent Garden area of Sunderland was where their address of Coronation Street on the 1881 census would be.

ANOTHER ADD: There were several brief reports of the crime. It appears all of the defendants were from the Sunderland area. They variously described themselves as "merchants" although it was reported that they had no means and were living in very poor conditions.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Dec 2013 08:35

This could be another complete red herring but am posting it as the age and occupation fits:

Crime, Prisons & Punishment

First name: Henry
Last name: Kerr
Age: 52
Year of birth: 1832
Occupation: Butcher

Date the court session started: 25 Feb 1884
Victims: William Pullin , Charles Hewson , Marie Hocquert
Record source: Central Criminal Court: After Trial Calendars of Prisoners
The National Archives reference: CRIM9/30

He was charged along with a George Robert Short, George Sumby and George Edmundson of stealing a silver pocket watch and other items with intent to defraud. All sentenced to 18 months in Cold Bath Fields prison.
Doesn't say where the offence or trial took place but seems to be in the London/Middlesex/Surrey area.

Flip

Flip Report 25 Dec 2013 08:33

I agree Marie - but wonder, because apart from the 1904 death I can't find a death for Henry prior to 1911 where she is recorded as a widow.

Very strange, for her to be a charwoman as well, it just doesn't add up.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Dec 2013 08:20

It's curious Flip, the birthplaces and ages on the 1901 seem to fit but Henry' occupation is completely different. Just posting different version to show all info:

KERR, Henry Head Married M 70 1831 Paper Merchant London
KERR, Catharine Wife Married F 59 1842 Lynn, Norfolk

Piece: 4719 Folio: 55 Page: 23
Registration District: Sunderland
Civil Parish: Sunderland

Address: 28, New Grey Street, Sunderland County: Durham

I think it's too much of a coincidence, she must have been recorded twice.

Flip

Flip Report 25 Dec 2013 07:36

I don't think the 1901 census posted earlier in the thread is right, I think this is Catherine:

Catherine Kerr
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Kerr 56
Frank Kerr 27
E W S Kerr 16

So no Henry on either 1891or 1901, on this census she is a charwoman but still stating married. So wonder where Henry disappeared to?

ADDED - although looking at both 1901 census images I wonder if she has been recorded twice??

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Dec 2013 18:45

(Thankyou for that MC)


Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
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Kerr Laura Sunderland 10a 838
LAWRENCE George William Sunderland 10a 838

Chris :)

1891
KERR, Catherine S Wife Married F 47 1844
Kings Lynn, Norfolk
KERR, John Son Single M 20 1871 Sawyer
Sunderland, County Durham
KERR, Frank Son Single M 17 1874 General Dealer
Sunderland, County Durham
KERR, Ellison Son M 6 1885
Sunderland, County Durham
Piece: 4139
Folio: 67
Page: 13
Registration District: Sunderland
Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Municipal Borough: Sunderland
Address: 20, Sussex Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland
County: Durham

Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette
Publication date:Tuesday 01 September 1891

Mrs Catherine Kerr, of 20, Sussex-street, desires to thank the doctors, sisters and nurses of the Sunderland Infirmary for their careful treatment and great attention to her while she was in No. 5 ward of that institution, also her son Robert Henry Kerr who was in No.14 ward.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Dec 2013 16:27

To summarise that newspaper article - one Gus Lawrence had married Laura Kerr, the daughter of Henry Kerr (butcher) and Catherine Susannah Kerr of 17 William Street, Sunderland.

Gus and Laura married 20 Feb 1883 at the Registry Office, Sunderland and had 6 children, all living.

Marion Elizabeth Baldwin had met Gus Lawrence in 1893 in New Delaval and they became engaged. They "married" in January 1894 in Earsdon. They lived with Marion's mother until April 1894 when he told her he was married with a wife and family still alive. She brought charges.

He said he'd told her all along he was married, she said he hadn't, he said he had (much he said, she saids) but admitted bigamy.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Dec 2013 15:24

(Thankyou for Probate Flip, wrong one then!)

LOCAL BIGAMY CASE.

Publication:Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette

Publication date:Tuesday 19 June 1894

Article text:"Sessions yesterday Gus. Lawrance, labourer, Sunderland, was charged With feloniously marrying one Marion Elizabeth Baldwin on the 9th January, his wife, Laura, then being alive. Catherine Susannah Kerr, wife of Henry Kerr, butcher, 17, Wiiliam.street, Suuderiand"

(something above newspapers, if anyone has a minute, I'm 'sausage rolling' in a minute, lol)

Chris :)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Dec 2013 15:21

Yes safc I'd agree U=Unmarried. I've just checked the image again on the 1861 and although it's not clear I think I would tend to go more for unmarried. (I can see, though, how the transcription on FMP could have picked it up as married).

Well found.

safc

safc Report 24 Dec 2013 15:11

this could be henry and jane hunter

1861 Census
6 Records found



Piece: RG9/3775 Place: S Bishop-Wearmouth -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 16
Civil Parish: Bishopwearmouth Ecclesiastical Parish: St Thomas
Folio: 91 Page: 40 Schedule: 243
Address: 40 Sans St

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
KERR Henry Head M M 28 Printer Compositor Scotland - -
Page: 92/41 KERR Jane Wife M F 28 Scotland - -
KERR Marian Dau - F 7 Co. Durham - Sunderland
KERR Henrietta J Dau - F 5 Co. Durham - Sunderland
KERR Elizabeth Dau - F 2 Co. Durham - Sunderland
KERR John Henry Son - M 5m Co. Durham - Sunderland

safc

safc Report 24 Dec 2013 15:02

1861 Census
1 Records found



Piece: RG9/3775 Place: S Bishop-Wearmouth -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 15
Civil Parish: Bishopwearmouth Ecclesiastical Parish: St Thomas
Folio: 46 Page: 25 Schedule: 142
Address: 19 Sussex St

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
KERR Henry Head U M 27 Butcher Middlesex - London


free cen says hes not married does U mean unmarried???

http://www.freecen.org.uk/

safc

safc Report 24 Dec 2013 14:51

Henry Kerr, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: Henry Kerr
Birth Date: 1832
Birthplace:
Age: 21
Spouse's Name: Jane Hunter
Spouse's Birth Date: 1832
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 06 Mar 1853
Event Place: Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England
Father's Name: Peter Kerr
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Hunter
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00851-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1514549
Reference ID: it 2, p 77, no 153

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Dec 2013 14:43

Just putting this here on the off chance, either to prove or eliminate.

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record

Day: 6
Month: Mar
Year: 1853

Groom forenames: Henry
Groom surname: Kerr

Bride forenames: Jane
Bride Surname: Hunter

Place: Bishopwearmouth
Description: St. Michael & All Angels
County: Durham

Checked: Yes
Record source: Northumberland and Durham Marriages
Data provider: Northumberland & Durham Family History Society

...........................................................................................................

I think he's been recorded both with and without a middle name on the index:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1853
BAXTER George William Sunderland 10a 378
HUNTER Jane Sunderland 10a 378 **
KERR Henry Sunderland 10a 378 <<
KERR Henry M Sunderland 10a 378 <<
WHITE Sarah Ann Sunderland 10a 378

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Dec 2013 14:38

Henry appears to be in the North East in 1851:

MILLS, Robert Head Married M 23 1828 Butcher Alnwick, Northumberland
MILLS, Ann Wife Married F 27 1824 Hetton Le Hole, Durham
KERR, Henry Aprentice Unmarried M 18 1833 Butcher's Apprentice London, Middlesex

Piece: 2392 Folio: 333 Page: 58
Registration District: Easington

Address: Shotton Colliery County: Durham

Did he marry someone between 1851 & 1861 so wasn't free to marry Catherine?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Dec 2013 14:29

I think this is Henry in 1861 on FMP (occupation on image is Butcher) - it says he's married, but who to? Catherine is still with her parents.

KERR, Henry Head Married M 27 1834 ... London, Middlesex

Piece: 3775 Folio: 46 Page: 25
Registration District: Sunderland
Civil Parish: Bishopwearmouth
Municipal Borough: Sunderland

Address: 19, Sussex Street, Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland County: Durham

Ancestry have added a Mary Walsh and her children as his family but I think that may be an error and they've wrongly appended the household beneath.

Flip

Flip Report 24 Dec 2013 13:50

Not sure that death is right Chris, I think it ties into this probate record:

Henry Kerr
Probate Date: 22 Feb 1907
Death Date: 4 Feb 1907
Death Place: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Registry: Durham, England

Henry Kerr, of Hartlepool. Probate to Annie Pilcher (wife of George Pilcher) - £31 4s. But they didn't appear to have a daughter Annie, and they weren' t living in Hartlepool.

I wondered about this death - although the age is about 10 years out??

Deaths Jun 1904 (>99%)
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KERR Henry 63 S. Shields 10a 475

Parts of Sunderland came under South Shields until 1928.

ADDED: although none of this is helping in the original question to find their marriage!