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20 Dec 2013 13:38 |
Listed as Parkin in 1881
Name: William Parkin Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relationship to Head: Son in Law Gender: Male Where born: Mottram, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Stayley County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: 2 Bower Row Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Cotton Grinder Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Stayley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4063 Folio: 59 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Betty Senior 62 William Parkin 42 Hagar Parkin 41 Martha Parkin 5 Sarah Parkin 3
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20 Dec 2013 13:40 |
Will send a PM to let William know that he has replies.
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20 Dec 2013 13:44 |
1841 England Census about Joseph Schofield Name: Joseph Schofield Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Mottram in Longden Dale Hundred: Macclesfield County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Ashton under Lyne Sub-registration District: Stayley Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 102 Book: 7 Folio: 3 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Schofield 55 (Carter) Betty Schofield 55 Sarah Schofield 35 (Cotton Reeler) Ann Schofield 20 (Cotton Reeler) Fanny Schofield 15 (Cotton Reeler) Henry Schofield 10 (Cotton Reeler)
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20 Dec 2013 14:40 |
..England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Fanny Schofield Name: Fanny Schofield Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1822 Age: 47 Father's Name: Joseph Schofield Spouse's Name: Joseph Mellor Spouse's Age: 51 Spouse's Father's Name: John Mellor Marriage Date: 31 Jan 1869 Marriage Place: Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
It seems that Grandson Joseph who appears age 6 in the 1861 census is Fanny's son.
..1871 England Census about Fanny Mellor Name: Fanny Mellor Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Mellor Gender: Female Where born: Staleybride, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Chadderton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Oldham Sub-registration District: Chadderton ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household Schedule Number: 97 Piece: 4105 Folio: 110 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Mellor 54 Fanny Mellor 49 Joseph Schofield 16 (Son) William Burns 17 (Lodger)
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PricklyHolly
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20 Dec 2013 15:04 |
Sarah Wood who appears in the 1851 census...
1871 England Census about Sarah Wood Name: Sarah Wood Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Cumberworth, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Stayley Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Stalybridge County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Stayley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Schedule Number: 12 Piece: 4092 Folio: 31 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Wood 67 (Widow) William Parkey 35 (Boarder) Mottram Cheshire....Cotton Spinner
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rootgatherer
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20 Dec 2013 15:22 |
Well spotted Prickles.
So looks like William is Sarah's brother-in-law. So probably Ann has died?
I just wonder if the age on the death posted earlier for Ann Parkey is correct?
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20 Dec 2013 15:30 |
Marriage: 13 Jul 1873 St Stephen, Audenshaw, Lancashire, England William Parkey - 37, Stripper, Widower, Audenshaw Hagar Senior - 34, Spinster, Audenshaw Witness: Henry Wilson; Sarah Ann Wilson Married by Banns by: J. Hornby Butcher, Vicar Register: Marriages 1867 - 1874, Page 196, Entry 392
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patchem
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20 Dec 2013 16:21 |
This is from a pm from William, and I have asked him to return to here:
witnesses on marriage certificate is William Parkey father a farmer and brides father John Lomas a carter.
So William Parkey is a farmer....
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patchem
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20 Dec 2013 16:28 |
1871 England Census James Parkin Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Parkin farmer Gender: Male Where born: Hattersley, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hattersley Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Mottram ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Schedule Number: 49 Piece: 4090 Folio: 13 Page Number: 8 William Parkin 50 Matley, Cheshire, Martha Parkin 49 Alfred Parkin 28 Harriet Parkin 20 Sarah Parkin 13 James Parkin 10 Mary Parkin 7 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4090; Folio: 13; Page: 8; GSU roll: 846697.
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patchem
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20 Dec 2013 16:35 |
Same family from 1871 in 1861 and 1851:
1861 England Census William Parkey Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Parkey Gender: Male Where born: Hattersley, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hattersley Ecclesiastical parish: Mottram County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Mottram ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household Schedule Number: 20 Piece: 3003 Folio: 11 Page Number: 4 William Parkey 40 Martha Parkey 36 Alfred Parkey 18 John Parkey 14 Harriet Parkey 11 Sarah Parkey 3 Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3003; Folio: 11; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543063.
1851 England Census William Parkey Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Parkey Gender: M (Male) Where born: Matley, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hattersley County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Mottram ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Household Schedule Number: 36 Piece: 2239 Folio: 19 Page Number: 10 William Parkey 30 Martha Parkey 26 Alfred Parkey 8 John Parkey 5 Harriet Parkey 1 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2239; Folio: 19; Page: 10; GSU roll: 87251.
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PricklyHolly
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20 Dec 2013 16:39 |
That is the info i posted earlier and then deleted. :-S
I will post it again just in case.
The above family appear as Parkey in the 1861 and 1851 census...
..1861 England Census about William Parkey Name: William Parkey Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Parkey Gender: Male Where born: Hattersley, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hattersley Ecclesiastical parish: Mottram County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Mottram ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 20 Piece: 3003 Folio: 11 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age William Parkey 40 (Farmer 3 Acres) Martha Parkey 36 Alfred Parkey 18 John Parkey 14 Harriet Parkey 11 Sarah Parkey 3
..1851 England Census about William Parkey Name: William Parkey Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Parkey Gender: M (Male) Where born: Matley, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hattersley County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Mottram ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 36 Piece: 2239 Folio: 19 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age William Parkey 30 Martha Parkey 26 Alfred Parkey 8 John Parkey 5 Harriet Parkey 1
Ooops......you already posted it Patchem.
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patchem
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20 Dec 2013 16:44 |
Yes, I thought you had lost interest.
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20 Dec 2013 17:46 |
PM from William
Thank you for your reply. I think this is the correct line to follow. Ann died at the age of 28. William is shown as a lodger in the 1871 census. What happened to James he is not on the 1871 census but he is mentioned in the 1881 census as a lodger with a family in Manchester. Thanks again William
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20 Dec 2013 19:48 |
Hello All I would like to convey my most grateful thanks to each and everyone of you for the help and suggestions that I have received from you. All the messages that have been posted on here will give me plenty of things to search and allow me to get a little further in my quest. My thanks again, for the time that you have given up to help me in my search. May I wish all of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Yours William
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PricklyHolly
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21 Dec 2013 10:42 |
Sorry..........i had to go out last night.
It seems this family couldn't decide if they wanted to be called Parkey or Parkin!
1881 England Census about William Parkin Name: William Parkin Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Martha Parkin Gender: Male Where born: Matley, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hattersley County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: Further Lane Farm Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Farmer Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Mottram ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4060 Folio: 10 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age William Parkin 59 (Farmer) Martha Parkin 56 Sarah Parkin 23 (Cotton Corder) Mary Parkin 17 (Farmers Daughter)
Deaths Dec 1884 (>99%) Parkin Martha 60 Ashton 8d 415
1891 England Census about William Parkey Name: William Parkey Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Matley, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Hattersley Ecclesiastical parish: Mottram St Michael Town: Hattersley County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration District: Mottram ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3297 Folio: 12 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age William Parkey 70 (Widower) Farm Labourer
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Deaths Jun 1893 (>99%) Parkin William 73 Ashton 8d 351
What address did James give on the marriage cert?
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PricklyHolly
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21 Dec 2013 15:09 |
Hi William
Thankyou for your message. It is best to reply on here so that other members can see your reply.
What leads you to believe that James's parents are not the above William and Martha?
Just so we can rule that one out.
Prickles.
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21 Dec 2013 15:19 |
In case this is of any help to you.....apart from the 1871 census, the brother Alfred appears as "Parkey"
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Alfred Parkey Name: Alfred Parkey Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1879 Registration District: Stockport Inferred County: Cheshire Volume Number: 8a Page Number: 136 Records on Page: Name Alfred Parkey Tabitha Rhodes Sandiford Household transcription 1911 census Person: PARKEY, Alfred Address: Nimble Nook Hattersley Broadbotham PARKEY, Alfred Head Widower M 68 1843 Farmer Dairy Mottram Cheshire VIEW PARKEY, John William Son Single M 31 1880 Margarine Labourer Mottram Cheshire VIEW PARKEY, Joseph Son Single M 30 1881 Joiner Hattersley Cheshire VIEW PARKEY, Sarah Daughter Single F 24 1887 Hattersley Cheshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 24432 Reference: RG14PN24432 RG78PN1402 RD468 SD9 ED1 SN47 Registration District: Ashton under Lyne Sub District: Mottram Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Hattersley Address: Nimble Nook Hattersley Broadbotham County: Lancashire (6 children born, 5 living, 1 had died)
..England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Alfred Parkey Name: Alfred Parkey Probate Date: 26 Aug 1921 Death Date: 17 Mar 1921 Death Place: Cheshire, England Registry: London, England Of 3 Nimble--nock Hattersley Mottram-in-Longdndale Cheshire
To: John William Parkey farmer and Joseph Parkey joiner.
Effects: £1348 19s
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