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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Dec 2013 18:55

Blue Plaque Heritage Trail - KCS 1
homepage.ntlworld.com/rogerjpayne/civic/trail.htm Cached
This years Heritage Trail Blue Plaque will be dedicated to the Architect and first Mayor of Kettering John Alfred Gotch ... Kettering banking and shoe making family.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Dec 2013 18:57

Tall Tales from the Trees: JOHN COOPER GOTCH (1772-1852) AND ...
talltalesfromthetrees.blogspot.com/.../john-cooper-gotch... Cached
John Cooper Gotch was the only surviving child of thirteen of Thomas Henry Gotch, a Leicestershire farmer who brought the family to Kettering and started ...

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Dec 2013 19:40

Notes Mary dau of John and Mary

(noticed the Baptisms added above Ann, if it gives a clue with anything)

Chris :)

(below from Find My Past, if relating anywhere, but probably already known)

Year:1774
Month:Oct
Day:18
County:Northamptonshire
Place:Harrington
Title:
Forename:John
Surname:Gotch
Parish:Rushton All Saints
Condition:B
Occupation:
Spouses Title:
Spouses Forename:Mary
Spouses Surname:Philips
Spouses Parish:Harrington
Spouses Condition:S
Spouses Occupation:
Licence or Banns:Banns
Event Type:Marriage
Record source:Northamptonshire Marriages
Data provider:Northamptonshire Family History Society

Year:1806
Month:Nov
Day:3
County:Northamptonshire
Place:Clipston
Title:
Forename:William
Surname:Clipsham
Parish:Kettering
Condition:B
Occupation:
Spouses Title:
Spouses Forename:Mary
Spouses Surname:Gotch
Spouses Parish:Clipston
Spouses Condition:
Spouses Occupation:
Licence or Banns:Banns
Event Type:Marriage
Record source:Northamptonshire Marriages
Data provider:Northamptonshire Family History Society

(worth a look on google)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Dec 2013 22:14

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335128

Roger

Roger Report 16 Dec 2013 05:38

Well, thanks for your splendid efforts, including some material new to me. I was aware of the Gotch Archive but thought I'd have to go to Kettering to see it.(and still might) You have put your finger on much of the relevant dilemmas I am trying to solve. Namely that my Mary,who was born a Gotch and buried with all the other Baptist Gotches ,as shown, cannot so far be linked to the famous family described.
I had read elsewhere that the shoemaking Gotches came in from rural Leicestershire/Northamptonshire, as indeed did my Gotch. There are earlier Baptist churches there.
Somewhere out there is a Gotch expert who has a handle on the eighteenth century, given the significance of the name! I've pretty much exhausted the posted trees where a common ancestor or other overlapping tree member exists.

Roger

Roger Report 16 Dec 2013 06:13

If Gotch-Philips marriage is an ancestor of the main family,(not sure if that is so) it is separated by only 5 miles (but 30 years) from the Clipsham-Gotch marriage, it still provides a circumstantial connection. Unfortunately so far, nothing more, so I'll go on digging.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Dec 2013 07:46

http://www.one-name.org/register.html

(Clipsham on above, if the person links to Gotch)

Chris :)

Penny

Penny Report 16 Dec 2013 08:01

The records will be held at Northamptonshire county record office In Northampton, although I suppose Kettering libriary would also have information

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Alemap

Alemap Report 16 Dec 2013 12:19

You may find this website useful.

http://www.fullerbaptist.org.uk/church

Look under HISTORY


:-)

Roger

Roger Report 16 Dec 2013 12:49

Thanks for the above. I'm aware of Fuller Baptists, which tell me that my Mary Gotch's parents were John & Mary Gotch of Kettering. The grandaddy of the famous Cooper-Gotches in that generation now appears to be Thomas Gotch as shown above. So if related I would have to go a generation further back, or otherwise prove this John Gotch was a siblingof Thos Gotch. There are several John & Mary Gotches found recorded and there may be others. My main candidates for this John & Mary Gotch are John Gotch b Clipston 1851 d Kettering 1832 & Mary b 1750 d 1828 Kettering.
The Kettering library claims to hold Gotch archive, but I guess I would check before setting off!
Thanks for pointing out that the Clipston one-name study encompasses Clipsham - I had seen that but it looked like a long shot (but that's the territory I'm in now I guess). I also just tumbled that you don't have to be a GONS member to make an enquiry.

Roger

Roger Report 16 Dec 2013 13:15

Thanks for all the comments .This discussion, having highlighted the significance of Thos Gotch as the founder of the main Gotches, as my next line of pursuit - to find his progenitors and siblings - has awakened me to notes I had previously made but not followed up. I note his Will is at Kew, and that I can follow that up electronically.

Roger

Roger Report 16 Dec 2013 14:34

Yes indeed - wills are very hard to transcribe - Thomas Gotch did have brothers John & Edward mentioned. I'm taking this forward.