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If the records of the East India Railway Company are eccurate, then my grandfather Henry Lee was born in the UK within two weeks of New Years Day 1841. His Father's name was George Henry Lee and born somewhere in the British Isles including Ireland. However I have found no matching record of birth registration and, so far no record of baptism. Has anyone found a relative by the name of Lee (or sounds like Lee) that fits that information? I would be so excited to hear from them. Patrick Lee

It may well be his birth wasn't registered .there were no penalties for non registration till 1875 and many births before then just didn't get reg.

Don't know if you have this but this is probably his marriage

father: Henry George Lee
spouse: Ripsima Mack
Name Henry Lee
Birth Date 1840
Birthplace
Age 20
Spouse's Name Ripsima Mack
Spouse's Birth Date 1836
Spouse's Birthplace
Spouse's Age 24
Event Date 11 Apr 1860
Event Place Burdwan, Bengal, India
Father's Name Henry George Lee
Mother's Name
Spouse's Father's Name
Spouse's Mother's Name
Race
Marital Status
Previous Wife's Name
Spouse's Race
Spouse's Marital Status
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M75018-1
System Origin India-EASy
GS Film number 499001


Note father shown as Henry George...do you know his mother's name?
Jude

Welcome to the boards, Patrick.

There are several Henry Lee's born in 1841 on free bmd - have you discounted all of them?

Jude's Henry was born in 1839/1840, if the correct marriage then the birth date in doubt anyway?

There are many members with Henry Lee, 1841, in their trees on here - have you contacted any of them?

Sorry.....but are you sure the man born in 1840 was your grandfather? Shouldn't there be at least one 'great' in there?

Yes, it is just about possible.......but unlikely, I'd have thought. Still, one never knows!

I'm in my seventies - my father was born 1895, but his father was born 1866, and his grandfather in 1840

But, anyway - it's all academic. Doesn't affect the search for the man

Patrick, do you have a tree on ancestry - there is one with extensive information on the family, assuming Jude's marriage is correct, although the wife's name was Hiripsima Mack, a widow.

If it's not your tree, and you don't have an ancestry sub, you can view it on the free spin-off site Mundia.com

Added, Hiripsima's maiden name was Karapet, born 7/1/1837 Calcutta, died 28/11/1885 also Calcutta. Henry died in Meerut in 1915 according to the tree.

Flip several spellings of her name on Familysearch! As you say, quite a few trees which will help with descendants. However there are some extremely dodgy assumptions made on a couple of saved censuses!

One of the trees have Henry going to Calcutta via Egypt from Southampton in 1857 but no supporting evidence (and I can't find any either)

Patrick, could do with some input....firstly is the marriage I posted definitely your Henry?

Did Henry have any relatives called Lennie Henry Lee?

Do you know Henry's mother's name?

Jude

One tree has a 1851 census with his parents born Ireland, I followed it through and they have all got corrected names to FEE

Yes one has him born Lancashire (from 1861 census) when he was likely to be in India if the Henry I have posted is correct with all the children....



Jude

Jude I'm pretty sure that marriage is correct as it links through.

Flip :-)

Jude

Place of Baptism Armenian Holy Church of Nazareth, Calcutta
Baptism Date 28 Jan
Baptism Year 1837
Birth Date 07-Jan
Birth Year 1837
First Names Hribsima
Surname Karapet
Sex f
Mother First Names Katarina
Father First Names Mkrtum
Father Surname Karapet
God-parent 1 First Names M.
God-parent 1 Surname Nicoghayosean
Caste Armenian
Signatore by whom Baptized

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_person_search.php

Chris :)

Could do with a little more information from Patrick, regarding the railway records he has checked. I'm assuming he means Henry was born in January 1841, making him 5 months old for the 1841 census taken on 6 June.

Were there any more clues to his origin on the records - and what was his occupation?

The marriage suggests he was born (probably) the two weeks BEFORE New Year's Day 1841 although Patrick's OP leads one to January 1841...

Jude

The tree on Ancestry has the same marriage as Jude found and says that Henry and Hiripsima had several children including Percy Herbert 1874 -1940.

A few bits about Percy

Marriage
Name: Percy Herbert Lee (he was a civil engineer)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Age: 35
Spouse Name: Mary Dorothea Biller
Spouse Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Aug 1909
Parish: Fulham All Saints
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Henry Lee
Register Type: Parish Register
Father Henry Lee retired
Her father John Billerica dec'd city merchant
Address for both of them 18 Churchfield Mansions.

Civil Engineering Records
Name: Percy Herbert Lee
Birth Date: 7 May 1874
Residence: Irrigation Hept, Punjab India
Record Type: Proposal
Event Date: 25 Dec 1908
Certificate and Year Range: 13201-13400 (1910 Dec - 1911 Mar)

Probate
Probate
Lee, Percy Herbert of Wilton Lodge, Winsue Avenue, Paignton, Devon died 17September 1940 probate to Chartered Bank of India, Australia and China.
Effects £10,584 2s 8d

His wife's birth
Name: Mary Dorothea Biller
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1878
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 95

Have pm'd Patrick to come back to is thread!

Meanwhile anyone..any thoughts on Lennie Henry (I jest not) Lee Major, OBE,????


Jude

What on earth has Shirley's post been reported for?

I saw that and although I can't remember what it said it was nothing reportable