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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 13:41 |
Wow, you guys are on the ball! TY Potty, you are excused!!! LOL
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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 13:39 |
Bloody 'ell, (scuse me French). Another Mackay in another family. Alvie, this could be more closely related than I first thought, and something to go back to once I get the branch or sorted out and correct :) TY
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Potty
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12 Dec 2013 13:30 |
Will have to come back later - OH is chomping at the bit to go shopping!
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alviegal
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12 Dec 2013 13:28 |
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about William McKay James Broomhead Name: William McKay James Broomhead Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Age at Enlistment: 25 Residence: 53 Dixon St, Leinchouse E (should be Limehouse E) Document Year: 1915 Regiment Name: Royal Engineers Number of images: 24
Married to Alice Elizabeth Webb. Child Gwendoline? He was a chemical lab.
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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 13:27 |
From Rootgatherer... "From the image the son is listed as William Mackay James Broomhead." This again makes me strongly believe that there is someone of importance to the family with the name or a link to Mackay. It was important enough to name not 1 but 3 children with it, and for William to name his own son the same, and adding his father's name also.
Please excuse me if I seem to answer people out of order or delayed. I am adding names and data to my tree in order of importance, so will be darting from one entry to another. ;-)
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Potty
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12 Dec 2013 13:27 |
James, the father of Selina, was James Edward according to her baptism and is too old to be William's father but the from occupation could be related. I did find an Edward of the right age on the 1841 but he was with a much older James
1841 England Census
Name:Edward Broomhead Age:4 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837 Where born:Middlesex, England Civil Parish:St Leonard Shoreditch James Broomhead 53 - occupation - J Carver? (possibly journeyman carver?) Edward Broomhead 4
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alviegal
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12 Dec 2013 13:24 |
Who is this one then?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about James M'kay Broomhead Name: James M'kay Broomhead Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 19 Jan 1879 born 24 Dec 1878 Father's Name: James Broomhead, turner of 11 Treadway St Mother's Name: Clara Selina Broomhead Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Jude Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about James McKay Broomhead Name: James McKay Broomhead Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1883 Age at Death: 4 Registration District: Bethnal Green Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 179
EDIT This one? Father is James age 5 in 1861. So it looks like 3 brothers, William, Henry and James all had MacKay as a middle name.
1881 census transcription details for: 8, Middleton St, Bethnal Green Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 427 Folio: 47 Page: 8 Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Church Parish: Bethnal Green Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: 8, Middleton St, Bethnal Green County: London, Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BROOMHEAD, James Head Married M 26 1855 Wood Turner Bethnal GN, Middlesex BROOMHEAD, Clara Wife Married F 23 1858 Shoreditch, Middlesex BROOMHEAD, James Son Single M 2 1879 Bethnal GN, Middlesex BROOMHEAD, Eliza Daughter Single F 0 1881 Bethnal GN, Middlesex DWEK, Sophia Widow F 70 1811 Needle Worker (S) Stepney, Middlesex
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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 13:21 |
I knew his year of death Potty, but I din't have all that info, TY again, great work.
Alvie, I did see that family, but disregarded them as the faimly I was concentrating on. I have no doubt there is a connection somewhere, and I thankyou for posting that. It is always nice to be able to go back later on and cross check. :)
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alviegal
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12 Dec 2013 13:12 |
1841? Perhaps this is a different family.
1841 census transcription details for: Barbican, St Botolph Aldersgate, London Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 724 Book/Folio: 9/17 Page: 29 Reg. District: London, East Sub District: Cripplegate Parish: St Botolph Aldersgate Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: London Address: Barbican, St Botolph Aldersgate, London County: Middlesex Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born COLLENDER, John M 55 1786 Middlesex COLLENDER, Ann F 40 1801 Middlesex BETTS, Sarah F 70 1771 BETTS, Elizabeth F 35 1806 Middlesex BROOMHEAD, James M 35 1806 carpenter Middlesex BROOMHEAD, Elizabeth F 35 1806 Middlesex BROOMHEAD, Selina F 10 1831 Middlesex
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Selina Elizabeth Broomhead Name: Selina Elizabeth Broomhead Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1830 born 12 April 1829 Father's Name: James Edward Broomhead, carpenter of Bath Street Mother's Name: Elizabeth Broomhead Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
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12 Dec 2013 13:05 |
Do you have this? James's Burial - address is given as 3 Ely Place, Globe Rd, Bethnal Green
England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 about James Broomhead
Name:James Broomhead Birth Date:abt 1815 Event Type:Burial Death Date:abt 1871 Death Age:56 Burial Date:25 Sep 1871 Burial Place:Hackney, Middlesex, England Piece Title:Piece 49-1: Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery: Burials. Vol 8 Indexed, 1870-1872
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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 12:50 |
Well, that makes it even more interesting. I'm thinking there has to be someone important or something significant to use Mackay as a middle name for 2 boys, and even more so as to name William the same as his deceased brother. They really wanted that name used.
TY again Potty, more work for me to add to the tree :)
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Potty
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12 Dec 2013 12:28 |
Seems there were two sons called Henry and the 2nd one had Mackay as a 2nd name:
1861 England Census Name:Henry Broomhead Age:8 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1853 Relation:Son Father's Name:James Broomhead Mother's Name:Eliza Broomhead Where born:Beth Gn, Middlesex, England Civil Parish:Bethnal Green St Matthew Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon the Zealot James Broomhead 45 Eliza Broomhead 45 Caroline Broomhead 17 William Broomhead 11 Henry Broomhead 8 James Broomhead 5 London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Mackay Broomhead
Name:Henry Mackay Broomhead Estimated Birth Year:abt 1852 Age:23 Spouse Name:Charlotte Rebecca Benstead Spouse Age:20 Record Type:Marriage Event Date:11 Oct 1875 Parish:Bethnal Green St Jude Borough:Tower Hamlets Father Name:James Broomhead Spouse Father:Joseph Benstead
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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 12:26 |
TY Potty...nice info there.
Here's a little story as to why I am so very interested in William, more so his name. When my son was born, his father suggested a name which I loved. His father was in the army and had sailed around, drove past and flown over this city in Queensland without ever going there. I kept the original spelling, and so my son was called MACKAY. 3 weeks after his birth I met up with my Scottish uncle and my cousins, and he asked if I named him after my uncle. It turned out he was adopted and had only just found his real name and had it legally changed ... to MACKAY. Mum went back to England a few years ago and went to Scotland, and brought back a Mackay tartan scarf for my son, as his namesake. After finding William's name, I am now starting to wonder if there aren't some greater forces at work here, and if it is possible that there is a connection to the Mackay clan somewhere in that branch of the tree.
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Astra
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12 Dec 2013 12:20 |
His grandparents marriage perhaps
Name: James Broomhead Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Buck Event Date: 28 Apr 1807 Event Place: Spitalfields Christ Church,Stepney,London,England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M06969-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 592624, 592625, 592626, 592627, 592628, 592629 Reference ID:
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12 Dec 2013 12:08 |
1851 England Census Name:Edwin Broomhead Age:23 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1828 Relation:Son Father's Name:Jame Broomhead Mother's Name:Eliza Broomhead Where born:Bishopsgate City, Middlesex, England Civil Parish:Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish:St Simon Zelotes County/Island:Middlesex Street Address: 5 Ely St Registration District:Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District:Green
Jame Broomhead 36 Eliza Broomhead 34 Edwin Broomhead 23 Elizza Broomhead 20 Caroline Broomhead 7 William Broomhead 1 As well as William, these children were also baptised on the same day in 1847: Henry, Eliza and Edwin Corbett. There is something written in the margin against them. It looks like F for all except Henry and looks like 08.
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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 11:48 |
TY so much, a lot of info there and a lot of new names to research and add.
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rootgatherer
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12 Dec 2013 11:05 |
1911
Name: William Mackay Broomhead Age in 1911: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Street Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 51 Ocean Street, Stepney E Marital Status: Married Occupation: CABINET MAKER Registration District: Mile End Old Town Registration District Number: 21 Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town South Western ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Piece: 1608 Household Members: Name Age William Mackay Broomhead 62 Elizabeth Broomhead 63 William Mackay Broomhead 20 Son
From the image the son is listed as William Mackay James Broomhead.
The image states that William and Elizabeth have been married 42 years, 10 children born, 2 living and sadly 8 had died.
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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 08:47 |
TY Gin, yep that's what I found too. I think too much of a name coincidence to think otherwise.
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Gee
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12 Dec 2013 08:19 |
This one
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name:William Broomhead
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:15 Sep 1846
Father's Name:James Broomhead
Mother's Name:Eliza Broomhead
Parish or Poor Law Union:Haggerston St Mary <<<12 John Street
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers
London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
William Mackay Broomhead
Record Type:Burial
Estimated Death Date:abt 1849
Burial Date:6 Jun 1849
Age:4
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1845
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register
Looks like John Street on the image
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Wendy
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12 Dec 2013 08:04 |
Something I forgot to include initially is that there would appear to have been a William Mackay Broomhead born C1842, and died C1849. From what I can interpret, most likely to be an older brother, and WMB II was given the same name. I haven't been able to find any more info so far.
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