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14 Dec 2013 01:08 |
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I guess I just missed where Mark said thanks ... but then .......... as I said ............ I noticed where he had informed of us of what he wants now ...
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AnnCardiff
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13 Dec 2013 13:41 |
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and best wishes to you too Mark, and have a good New Year XX <3 <3 <3
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Mark
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13 Dec 2013 12:54 |
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Hello AnnCardiff - How are you.....
I am at a public library as we speak... Happy Christmas
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AnnCardiff
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13 Dec 2013 12:44 |
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can't think why anyone would have thought you'd lost interest :-S
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Mark
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13 Dec 2013 11:06 |
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I have not LOST INTEREST i am in a public library with limited time i am trying my best to get my ancestry
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JoonieCloonie
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13 Dec 2013 02:14 |
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"I have Betty's parentage as Nicholas and Mary Unknown ..."
You have that ... from where? why not say the source of information?
I have a Betty Bimson born in Wigan in 1783 with mother Mary Bimson and no father recorded. You can have her too if you do the search at familysearch that I did. I have suspected, since I searched at FS and found that baptism right after Potty posted the details of the baptism naming Betty and her father, that she might be the Betty Bimson in question. Perhaps Nicholas was playing away and the mother wasn't really Bimson; perhaps one of the various reasons why people chose the names they did for fictitious fathers when they married.
It's not like the name was Mary Jones and there might have been a dozen of them born around the same time and place, but perhaps there were two .........
Where have you looked for these relevant dates you seek, Mark?
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JoonieCloonie
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13 Dec 2013 02:10 |
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Oh sorry, I missed this:
"Could i ask for assistance in finding relevant dates for William Houghton and his wife Betty Bimson who married 02/05/1803 in Croston. I have Betty's parentage as Nicholas and Mary Unknown ...
Thanks"
I guess that was acknowledgement of the marriage I suggested and the work I did to find it, after Potty suggested the baptism with Betty's father's name ............
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JoonieCloonie
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13 Dec 2013 02:00 |
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I have no idea whether any of all that has anything to do with the question :-D and I don't know whether this is somewhere in there, but this is likely the Nicholas father of Betty Bimson in the marriage I first posted that was then expanded on:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NX4B-36P
Ann Bimson
christening: 24 August 1783
>> Eccleston (near Croston), Lancashire, England
>> father: Nicholas Bimson
mother: Jane
Mark appears to have lost interest, in any event.
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AnnCardiff
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13 Dec 2013 00:18 |
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The National Archives | Access to Archives
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=055... Cached
Sent by Mr. and Miss Houghton to William Dicconson, ... probably of J. Scarisbrick 1779 and papers concerning the funeral of J. Scarisbrick 1786, 1738-1808; ...
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12 Dec 2013 22:29 |
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The National Archives | Access to Archives
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=055-q_8... Cached
After 1700 the hundred juries gradually disappeared, ... bastard child of Robert Tootell of Mawdesley farmer and Betty Bimson, ... Croston. Order of filiation ...
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 22:18 |
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Croston Parish Registers
1518, Cyssely Dalton dau of Roger and Jane Jakes Dalton
2 May 1548 George Dalton
12 April 1549 Thomas Dalton
24 March 1550/1 Elizabeth Dalton
17 Dec 1552 William Dalton28 April 1603 Thomas Dalton
5 July 1629 Richard bastard son of Thomas Dalton of Croston
27 Jan 1630, William Dalton/Euxton son ofThomas Dalton and Elizabeth Euxton
21 Dec 1631 Mary, daughter of Thomas Dalton of Croston and Jennet Lathome, bastard
7 March 1631/2 Margret daughter of Thomas Dalton of Croston
22 June 1634 Elizabeth bastard daughter of Thomas Dalton and Mary Crook of Croston
7 Feb 1636, Jane Dalton dau of Thos. Dalton
4 Oct 1640 Robert son of Thomas Dalton of Croston
10 May 1663 Thomas son of Robert Dolton of Croston
13 March 1663 William son of Robert Dalton of Croston
5 April 1668 Jane daughter of Robert Dolton of Croston - was borne April the third about 7 o’clock
6 Apr 1676, Thomas Dalton
23 Oct 1698, Mary Dalton dau of Willi Dalton
17 Feb 1751, Wiliam Dalton son of Robert and Mary Dalton
27 Dec 1773, Robt. Dalton son of William and Ellen Dalton
3 Jan 1776, Mary Dalton dau of William and Ellen Dalton
11 Feb 1778, Robert Dalton son of William and Ellen Dalton
31 Jul 1782, Martha Dalton dau of Thomas and Elizth. Dalton
5 May 1785, John Dalton son of William and Ellen Dalton
19 Aug 1787, Mary Dalton dau of William and Ellen Dalton
20 Apr 1792, William Dalton son of William and Ellen Dalton
12 Feb 1794, Ellen Dalton dau of William and Ellin Dalton
17 Feb 1811, Robert Dalton son of John and Susan Dalton
28 Mat 1813, Ellen Dalton dau of John and Susan Dalton
6 Feb 1815, Ellen Dalton dau of Esther Dalton
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 22:16 |
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Bimson is peculiar in that the name Bimme, from which it is derived, was a very rare and very local name. Apparently found only in Lancashire - according to the evidence in the Victoria County Histories - between the valleys of Ribble and Douglas, and in the 16C pretty well limited to the hundred of Leyland. It has been suggested that it was a nick-name for William, like Will and Bill, but David Mills in the Place Names of Lancashire puts it down as Old English and, as he wrote to me, 'it is not a diminutive (Will) or a rhyming diminutive (Bill) of William, and the paucity of records suggests that it was not a by-form of that widely adopted French Christian name.
A search through all the English telephone directories showed that most Bimsons are concentrated between Ribble and Mersey.
The index to names in the 1881 census gave about 45 households - the total number of names was 260. The concentration in Ormskirk is very impressive and Liverpool had far fewer that I should have expected.
It is hard to believe there was none of the family in Wigan.
The distribution derived from the Lancashire Parish Register Society publications for the first century of parish registers - from about 1540 to 1650 - shows Bimsons chiefly in the parishes of Croston, Eccleston and Standish.
Unfortunately the Eccleston register does not begin until 1605, but the family was certainly in the parish as they are mentioned in late medieval deeds and William Bimson of Wrightington was included in the Elizabethan muster of 1600.
My information for the earlier periods comes from searches through The Victoria County History of Lancashire, the works of one of Cannon T C Porteus of Coppull & Chorley and the publications of the Historical Society of Lancashire and Cheshire, the Record Society of Lancashire & Cheshire, the Transactions of the Lancashire and Cheshire Antiquarian Society and the Cheetham Society.
The name Bimme occurs in the documentary records of at least four areas of the county - chiefly dating from the 13 & 14 centuries but in one or two cases referring back to the end of the 12C.
These deeds concern lands and law-suits, we have no way of knowing how common the name was among common men.
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 22:14 |
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Baptism: 14 Apr 1805 St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Jane Bimpson - Daughter of Thomas Bimpson & Jane
Born: 22 Mar 1805
Abode: Mawdesley
Occupation: Ship-Wright
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 94, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 93712
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 22:09 |
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Baptism: 4 Jul 1802 St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Thomas Bimson - Son of Thomas Bimson & Jane
Born: 6 Jun 1802
Abode: Mawdesley
Occupation: Shipwright
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 69, Entry 1
Source: LDS Film 93712
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 22:08 |
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Baptism: 16 May 1802 St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Betty Bimson - Daughter of Ann Bimson, Spinster
Born: 29 Apr 1802
Abode: Bretherton
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 67, Entry 7
Source: LDS Film 93712
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 22:06 |
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Baptism: 19 Jul 1801 St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Thomas Halton - Son of Thomas Halton & Ellin
Born: 3 Jul 1801
Abode: Mawdesley
Occupation: Blacksmith
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 60, Entry 10
Source: LDS Film 93712
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 22:00 |
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Baptism: 13 Feb 1800 St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Betty Bimson - Daughter of Thomas Bimson & Jane
Born: 12 Feb 1800
Abode: Mawdesley
Occupation: Carpenter
Register: Baptisms 1792 - 1812, Page 50, Entry 8
Source: LDS Film 93712
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 21:58 |
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in case there's a connection
Banns: St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Luke Bimson - of Mawdesley
Alice Halton - of Bispham
Banns Read: 28 Aug 1814, 2nd: 4 Sep 1814, 3rd: 11 Sep 1814
Married 19 Sep 1814
Register: Banns of Marriage 1814-1829, Page 7, Entry 31
Source: LDS Film 93713
Banns: St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Henry Watkinson - of Bretherton
Ann Bimson - of Bretherton
Banns Read: 6 Nov 1814, 2nd: 13 Nov 1814, 3rd: 20 Nov 1814
Married 28 Nov 1814
Register: Banns of Marriage 1814-1829, Page 8, Entry 39
Source: LDS Film 93713
Banns: St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Robert Riley - of Tarleton
Alice Bimson - of Tarleton
Banns Read: 16 Jul 1815, 2nd: 23 Jul 1815, 3rd: 30 Jul 1815
Married 23 Aug 1815
Register: Banns of Marriage 1814-1829, Page 14, Entry 68
Source: LDS Film 93713
Banns: St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
James Bimson - of Mawdesley
Ellin Wilson - of Mawdesley
Banns Read: 13 Aug 1815
Notes: (Only published once)
Register: Banns of Marriage 1814-1829, Page 14, Entry 70
Source: LDS Film 93713
Banns: St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
James Miller - of Tarleton
Isabella Houghton - of Scarisbrick in the Parish of Ormskirk
Banns Read: 8 Dec 1816, 2nd: 15 Dec 1816, 3rd: 22 Dec 1816
Married 24 Dec 1816
Register: Banns of Marriage 1814-1829, Page 25, Entry 122
Source: LDS Film 93713
Banns: St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Stephen Halton - of Bispham
Betty Stringfellow - of Wrightington in the Parish of Eccleston
Banns Read: 28 Mar 1819, 2nd: 4 Apr 1819, 3rd: 11 Apr 1819
Register: Banns of Marriage 1814-1829, Page 37, Entry 185
Source: LDS Film 93713
Banns: St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
John Sumner - of This Town
Esther Dalton - of This Town
Banns Read: 12 Nov 1820, 2nd: 19 Nov 1820, 3rd: 26 Nov 1820
Married 27 Nov 1820
Register: Banns of Marriage 1814-1829, Page 47, Entry 231
Source: LDS Film 93713
Banns: St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
John Bimson - of Bispham
Ann Halton - of Bispham
Banns Read: 7 Oct 1821, 2nd: 14 Oct 1821, 3rd: 21 Oct 1821
Married 30 Oct 1821
Register: Banns of Marriage 1814-1829, Page 54, Entry 268
Source: LDS Film 93713
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AnnCardiff
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12 Dec 2013 20:37 |
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this would be around the date she was born
Name: Betty Bimson
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 21 Nov 1783
Christening Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Mother's Name: Mary Bimson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03546-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1469050
Reference ID: item 5
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12 Dec 2013 20:35 |
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Name: William Halton
Spouse's Name: Betty Bimson
Event Date: 02 May 1803
Event Place: Croston, Lancashire, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07330-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1656816
Reference ID: item 5
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