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Finding Information On Scottish Ancestors

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Dec 2013 15:04

Death
Name: JOHNSTONE, Margaret Brand
Registration district: Nuneaton & Bedworth
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1989
Month of registration: December
Date of Birth:24 September 1933
Volume no: 31
Page no: 230
Reg no: 1289

Was BRAND actually her surname?

....................or was it, as seems from the above, a second forename?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Dec 2013 15:01

Margaret Workman Brand born 1933, as in MarieCeleste's post above, married in 1956.
But her husband was Edgar Anton Meaten:-

1956 MEATEN EDGAR ANTON BRAND MARGARET WORKMA TRADESTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0049

The only other 1956 Scottish marriage of a Margaret Brand was to a Robert Paterson:-

1956 PATERSON ROBERT BRAND MARGARET ARMADALE /WEST LOTHIAN 662/02 0043

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Dec 2013 14:45

ScotlandsPeople has no record of a Margaret Brand marrying a William Johnstone (or variant spelling) 1940-60.

Searching for M Brand marrying William Johnstone (or variant) 1950-60 only produces one result, which is presumably not the right couple:
1950 JOHNSTONE WILLIAM ROGERSON
BRAND IRENE MARY
LANGHOLM OR STAPLEGORTON /DUMFRIES 839/00 0002

Potty

Potty Report 11 Dec 2013 12:53

Scottish birth certs also give the date and place of parents' marriage.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Dec 2013 10:03

Scottish marriage certs include the names of both parents........if known, of course.

You can't hope to make progress on this without buying at least one cert....................

How do you know the exact date of the marriage to Johnstone?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Dec 2013 15:04

Would they be the ones that MC posted earlier?

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/ MR GROS Data Image
1 1933 BRAND MARGARET ELIZAB F ST ANDREW (DUNDEE) DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/03 0311
2 1933 BRAND MARGARET WORKMA F GOVAN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/21 0290

Out of interest, how did you work out that the regs are for the same person (always willing to listen and learn!)

As there are no results of a Margaret marrying a William Johnstone in England in 1956, presumably that also occurred in Scotland.

Not knowing in detail about the info on Scottish certs, would it be cheaper and more reliable to purchase Margaret and William's MC, or to pay for one of the BC's?

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Dec 2013 13:08

Only one person called Margaret Brand was born in Scotland in 1933.
Birth was registered in St Andrew, Dundee,.

( an SP search for 1933 will show 2 birth entries.
One in Dundee the other in Angus but it is the same birth as both lead to a registration in St Andrew, Dundee)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Dec 2013 13:00

Were did Margaret marry? If you bought the MC, an English cert would give the father's name if known....and the details of the mother if its a Scottish MC.

Even with just the father's name, it might be possible to look for a marriage in Scotland (presumably) to a Mary by elimination.

Similarly a 1987 Scottish DC will give far more info than an English one. You'd probably have to send for it rather than purchase and download.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 10 Dec 2013 12:58

I checked on SP.
Only one person called Mary Brand died in Scotland in 1987.
The death was registered in Midlothian but the death index states she was 70yrs old.

This woman was born circa 1917.

Zoe

Zoe Report 10 Dec 2013 12:40

I'm afraid I don't know any more than I originally posted. I imagine Brand was Mary's married name, not her maiden name.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Dec 2013 09:30

1901

Household BRAND, Mary 1900 1 F Gorbals Lanarkshire VIEW
N/A
Household BRAND, Mary P 1900 1 F Stenton Haddingtonshire (East Lothian) VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Dec 2013 09:29

Are you saying that Margaret's mother did not marry?

If she was born Mary Brand, you should be able to find her on the 1901 Scottish census on Ancestry.

If Margaret married in Scotland, the cert will contain info about her parents..............

Zoe

Zoe Report 9 Dec 2013 22:57

Thank you for your quick reply.. Only started searching this part of the family tree a few days a go and was disappointed that I couldn't use Ancestry.com! Will have a look on Scotlandspeople.gov.uk as you suggested.
Margaret had two brothers called Terry & Jim and two sisters called Eileen & Jean but apart from that I know very little.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Dec 2013 22:44

Hello Zoe, have you tried Scotlands People for records?

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

These are the only two births registered in 1933 (using 1 spare credit for results)

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/ MR GROS Data Image
1 1933 BRAND MARGARET ELIZAB F ST ANDREW (DUNDEE) DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/03 0311
2 1933 BRAND MARGARET WORKMA F GOVAN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/21 0290

It would cost £12 to order an extract of the record, depending if you think one of them fits.

Zoe

Zoe Report 9 Dec 2013 22:42

Can anyone help me find information about
Margaret Brand ~ Born in Scotland 24th September 1933 ~ died 9th December 1989 in Nuneaton ( Married William Johnstone 9th December 1956)
Her mother was Mary Brand ~ Born 1900 ~ died 1987 in Scotland

Trying to trace the family back but struggling because of lack of information and trouble accessing Scottish records.