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Please could I have the other pages of my grandfathers records if anyone can message them to me

I managed to download them it is quite easy isn't it lol

Sorry if l don't keep up with posts life is overly hectic at the moment and my health isn't too good.

My mum and older brother also spoke of (Frank) Francis when I was younger.
Apparently he visited our home until we moved when I was a baby in the 50s.

I can't thank all of you enough for the excitement you have given me during these posts.
I feel as if part of the brick wall has come tumbling down with my grandfathers army records.

Heyjude.

Yes that's her.

I'm wondering if the elusive uncle frank (relative of my dad) was actually his mums brother and not my dad's brother

I had a thought that maybe he could have had learning difficulties or something and my grandparents took him in!

For info...Maria Catherine's family (including her) in 1891

Name: Mary C Macguire
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Macguire
Mother's Name: Mary Macguire
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2920
Folio: 37
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John Macguire 40
Mary Macguire 36
John T Macguire 19
Joseph Macguire 15
James Macguire 13
Mary C Macguire 11
Peter Macguire 7
Francis Macguire 3

This is your grandmother's baptism

Name: Maria Catherina Maguire
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1879
Baptism Date: 13 Nov 1879
Parish: St Joseph's
Father's Name: Joannis Maguire
Mother's Name: Mariae Connor

brothers

Name: Josephus McGuire
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1875
Baptism Date: 16 Jan 1876
Parish: St Joseph's
Father's Name: Joannis Mcguire
Mother's Name: Mariae Oconnor

FLIP....

Name: Franciscus Maguire
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1881
Baptism Date: 21 Oct 1881
Parish: St Joseph's
Father's Name: Joannis Maguire
Mother's Name: Mariae Connor

actually there are three entries that would fit for Francis McGuire between 1878 and 1887!! But I think your are probably correct about the baptism of Francis Logan

Got to go out now!

Jude

Flip I did wonder about the death for Francis - for two reasons...the age thing and also because Pam's father had memories of him....that's why I said "might" be him!

Pam, downloading attachments from your GR inbox is easy. At the bottom of the message it will say Get Attachments. Click on this and it brings up the attachments. Click on each and it will download to your computer then you can open and save where you want.

Jude

Jude, that catholic burial linked to the death reg for Francis gives an age of 2 yr 10 months at date of burial of 8/9/08, however the image states 22 months (so another mistranscription). This would indicate a birth Nov.06

But the Francis that Pam is looking for was baptised and recorded as born Sept.06 so possibly not the same one?

The godparents for Francis were Francis & Maria McGuire - is Francis a brother of Mary Catherine?

GB, if you've downloaded those records, there are a couple of pages back from the opening link which refer to him.

He had a right side hernia, done lifting timber in 1910 - also was pretty deaf due to measles as an infant. There was also an operation scar for a left side hernia.

Where it asks for childrens names it just says 2 - so wonder does this mean there were still 2 children alive in 1917?

I missed your earlier post about the Irish census
I shall try that tomorrow

Pam

Hi Maureen

Thank you

I could message you my email address l'm not sure how I save them sent through GR

Time isn't a problem its time I went to bed.

Pam

Pam

I will try and save the records from Ancestry for you but my computer is slow so might take a bit of time

I can then send as attachment thru GR

Maureen

GlitterBaby

I only have 30 credits for the military records on here but they say there's no record of him

Where did you find the records?

Thank you for finding it.

I'll see if I can get further with it.

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

Name: John Logan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Age at enlistment: 39
Document Year: 1917
Regimental Number: 347536
Regiment Name: Labour Corps
Number of images: 7


This is the record mentioned by HeyJude


Next of kin is given as wife Mary Catherine Logan of 23 Gomer St

He only served 108 days and discharged as no longer physically fit

In case you want to check the Irish census. Plenty of hits for John Logan but none for Peter or Mary

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/


Ancestry has WW1 service records, pensions records and medal cards

Ah thanks Tenerife sun.

They really are frustrating. If they weren't my grandparents I'd begin to think they were a figment of my imagination.

Regards

Pam

Checked all houses in Gomer Street no luck with the Logans

Hi heyjude

I was hoping the boys had not died as there is a frank that my mother spoke of and my brother remembered visiting us til the 1950s when we moved.

Their mother Mary Catherine Logan's father was born Cavan but had died by the time my dad was born.
I think he died before my grandparents marriage in 1901

Their father John's 2xs great grandparents came over from Ireland I don't know if they had contact with relatives from either side over there.

I know my dad visited his mother and maybe other relatives in the 1950s and maybe the 1960s.

Dad joined the army as a boy soldier. I imagine that's why the two Logan cousins I have found don't know anything of the family
Plus my dad was brought up catholic (his mothers religion)
His fathers side were all in the orange lodge.

What are the WW Pension records? Are they war pension records?
I know nothing of my grandfather so any little tidbits on him would be a great discovery too

I think this is Thomas
Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%)
Logan Thomas 0 Liverpool 8b 99

I think this is Daniel
Deaths Jun 1905 (>99%)
Logan Daniel 0 Liverpool 8b 31

And this could be Francis
Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
Logan Francis 1 W. Derby 8b 394
There is a Catholic burial for this one

I found WW! pension records which are definitely them. Living at Gomer Street. Annoyingly, there is nothing regarding dependants.

I still think they might have gone to Ireland - did either have Irish ancestors? (Good Irish names)

Jude

Hi Glitterbaby.

I've searched and searched till I'm cross eyed.

I'm beginning to think rootgather could be right they just didn't fill out the form.

I'm still checking the deaths for the Logan brothers Francis. Thomas and Daniel.
So far I haven't found any so they could have lived on to adulthood unlike a younger brother and sister to my dad. Michael and Mary Frances.

Thanks everyone for your help and input. I appreciate the time and effort you have put in.

Regards

Pam

Checked the 1911 for Peover Street Liverpool and there's no sign of them but I don't think all the houses are listed.