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Britain: outbound passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960 - person transcript

Name: Wm C PLEASANCE
Date of departure: 23 February 1911
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Halifax
Destination country: Canada
Date of Birth:
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Lab
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 25
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Wm PLEASANCE


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Ship: HESPERIAN
Official Number: 124266
Master's name: W T Main
Steamship Line: Allan Line Steamship Co. Ltd
Where bound: Saint John NB, Canada
Square feet: 34520
Registered tonnage: 6123
Passengers on voyage: 936


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935


Name: Wm Pleasance

Gender:Male

Age: 43

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868

Date of Arrival: 4 Mar 1911

Vessel:Hesperian

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Port of Arrival:
Halifax, Nova Scotia

Port of Departure
Liverpool, England

Roll:
T-4738

I would think that this death is a better match for the one who was baptised as son of William and Sarah ??

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Frederick Pleasance
Name: Frederick Pleasance
Birth Date: 6 Nov 1899
Date of Registration: Nov 1988
Age at Death: 89
Registration District: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 1967

We know that this one is the blind child as he was with William and Sarah in 1901:

1901 census transcription details for: 135, Queens Road, West Ham
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1573
Folio: 41
Page: 13
Reg. District: West Ham
Sub District: Plaistow
Parish: West Ham
Enum. District: 34
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 135, Queens Road, West Ham
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
PLEASANCE, William C Head Married M 30 1871 Bricklayer Improver
West Ham Plaistow, Essex
PLEASANCE, Sarah C Wife Married F 28 1873
West Ham Plaistow, Essex
PLEASANCE, William C Son M 10 1891
West Ham Plaistow, Essex
PLEASANCE, John Son M 3 1898
West Ham Plaistow, Essex
PLEASANCE, Frederick Son M 1 1900
Blind Chd West Ham Plaistow, Essex


Therefore I think that this is not the one you are looking for, especially if the Frederick Robert death posted above for 1973 is the correct one.

You really DO need that marriage cert. !!!

Dea x

He was using the middle name of Robert when he was with Beatrice on this 1939 ER.

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Beatrice Pleasance
Year: 1939
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Shoreditch
Street Address: 36 Ely Place

Nicola,

If you are having problems you need to order his marriage certificate for confirmation that his father is William.
It would be a waste of time and effort to follow the wrong people.
Did I have the correct death for him?
Just wondered when he started using 'Robert'?


Sylvia,

You can edit your posting to remove all the extra stuff, and get rid of the spacings. I stop reading information when it is full of blank spaces taking up 2 screens.

After searching every possible Fred C Pleasance, I keep coming up with the same one in a Blind institution in 1911, saying he was blind from birth. I am researching this family tree for a old friend, who has ever mentioned that her Grandfather was blind...Could there be some mistake! surely she would know this. Now doubting I have the right Fred!!

I'm pretty sure my Fred, had parents William C Pleasance and Sarah C (Hall) in west Ham 1901, Fred and elder brother John seem to be in some type of institution in East london 1911, Mother Sarah C Pleasance and her mother inlaw Mary Pleasance living together in 1911, no sign of William C Pleasance snr or eldest son William C Pleasance in 1911?. There is a connection with the name Knapp somewhere and a Edith Knapp aged 24 Boarder was living with Sarah C and Mary Pleasance in 1911!
Still confused but Thanks for everyone's help.

Not sure if this is the same person in 1911 census

about Frederick Pleasance
Name: Frederick Pleasance
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: St John-at-Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Blind School, 2, 4 and 6 Warwick Road, Upper Clapton, N E
Occupation: SCHOOL
Registration District: Hackney
Registration District Number: 11
Sub-registration District: North Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

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From ancestry London records:
Frederick Pleasance
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Sep 1900
Father's Name: William Pleasance
Mother's Name: Sarah Pleasance
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shadwell, St Paul
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers
4 Radnor Road, Plaistow

Added:
No, claims birth was Nov 8th 1899.

Do you know that he was definitely born in Hackney?

The name of his Father will be on his marriage certificate - have you ordered it?

Just for ref:
Frederick Robert Pleasance
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1900
Date of Registration: Mar 1973
Age at Death: 72
Registration District: Hackney
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 1744

Looking for parents and siblings of Frederick Robert Pleasance, born 1900,Hackney. He married Beatrice Iles in Shoreditch 1925. Believe he's parents were William Charles Pleasance and Sarah Celia Hall, married in 1897, West Ham.
Having trouble finding any census or BMD info, to confirm any family for Fred.
Any help most welcome.