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Nicola
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8 Nov 2013 21:09 |
Thankyou Dea for the search it was a long shot I know, but as this address was mentioned by the Pleasance decendants, I thought it was worth a look to see if any Pleasance or Knapp's were living there in 1911. Another dead end but thanks for looking anyway. Kind regards Nicky
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9 Nov 2013 08:22 |
Nicola - about that address.......
You could try contacting the local library closest to that address and see if they would be willing to do an electoral roll look up for the year in question and perhaps a year either side?
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16 Nov 2013 20:05 |
I need help again!! To all those who have helped with my research on my Pleasance/Knapp family so far. I have received the Birth cert of Frederick Robert Knapp, details are: Frederick Robert Knapp, Born 14th April 1900 at 2.10am, 71 Warley Street, Bethnal Green. Father: William Wallace Knapp. Mother: Charlotte Knapp formerly Rees of 71 Warley Street, Bethnal Green. To recap Frederick Robert Knapp was married in March 1925 as Frederick Robert Pleasance, marriage cert says father was Albert Pleasance. I know this is the same person for sure!! but can't connect them because of the name change.. I have found a Charlotte Rees to John T Pleasance in 1887. Help please...
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Choccy
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16 Nov 2013 20:28 |
probably Daisy Pleasance NOT Placanses !
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RG number: RG13 Piece: 295 Folio: 136 Page: 13 Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Bethnal Green East Parish: Bethnal Green Enum. District: 18 Ecclesiastical District: St Simons Zelotes City/Municipal Borough: Address: 71, Bethnal Green Warley Street, Bethnal Green County: London
REES, Mary Ann Head Widow F 59 1842 Silk Weaver Bethnal Green, London >>>>>>PLACANSES, Daisy Lodger Single F 5 1896 Bethnal Green, London WANT, Anna Lodger Single F 28 1873 Cap Maker Bethnal Green, London WANT, Tress Lodger Single F 25 1876 Cap Maker Bethnal Green, London
here they are in 1911
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RG14PN1378 RG78PN48 RD16 SD3 ED15 SN386 Reg. District: Shoreditch Sub District: Shoreditch North East Parish: Shoreditch Enum. District: 15 Address: 19 Marlborough Road County: London
PLEASANCE, Charlotte Wife Widow F 38 1873 Boot Bethnal Green >>>>>PLEASANCE, Daisy F 15 1896 Bethnal Green PLEASANCE, Charlotte Elizabeth F 20 1891 Shorditch PLEASANCE, Albert M 5 1906 Shorditch
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16 Nov 2013 20:49 |
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RG number: RG13 Piece: 295 Folio: 151 Page: 43 Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Bethnal Green East Parish: Bethnal Green Enum. District: 18 Ecclesiastical District: St Simons Zelotes City/Municipal Borough: Address: 34, Bethnal Green Walter Street, Bethnal Green County: London
>>>>>PLACACES, Charlotte Head Widow F 28 1873 Packer Bethnal Green, London PLACACES, Charlotte Daughter Single F 12 1889 Bethnal Green, London PLACACES, Robert Son Single M 1 1900 Bethnal Green, London
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16 Nov 2013 21:12 |
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RG number: RG12 Piece: 258 Folio: 138 Page: 9 Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Bethnal Green North Parish: Bethnal Green Enum. District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: St Paul City/Municipal Borough: Address: 54, Gibraltar Walk, Bethnal Green County: London
PLEASANCE, Thomas Head Married M 22 1869 Printers Warehouseman Bethnal Green, London PLEASANCE, Charlotte Wife Married F 21 1870 Bethnal Green, London PLEASANCE, Charlotte Daughter F 3 1888 Bethnal Green, London PLEASANCE, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1890 Bethnal Green, London
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16 Nov 2013 21:23 |
don't know if any of these postings are relevant, but they may be!
In 1901 looks like Thomas Pleasance was with a 'new' family and possibly Charlotte wasn't actually a widow. This Thomas Pleasance born the same year in Bethnal Green with the same occupation
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RG number: RG13 Piece: 282 Folio: 28 Page: 48 Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Bethnal Green North Parish: Bethnal Green Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas City/Municipal Borough: Address: 179, Ravenscroft Buildings, Bethnal Green County: London
PLEASANCE, Thomas Head Married M 32 1869 Printer's Warehouseman Bethnal Green, London PLEASANCE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 28 1873 Wood Green, Middlesex PLEASANCE, Reuben Son M 6 1895 Shoreditch, London PLEASANCE, Jane Daughter F 7 1894 Shoreditch, London PLEASANCE, Lille Daughter F 0 (7 MOS) 1901 Bethnal Green, London
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Nicola
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16 Nov 2013 23:24 |
Thanks all for your help especially Choccy, finding Pleasance's in the same house as my Knapp Birth, confirms they are the same family..This is driving me mad..I thought there would be a clear date for the change of name, but know I have Pleasance's ancestor's prior to my Knapp Birth's in 1900!!
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18 Nov 2013 21:39 |
So Charlotte Rees Married John Thomas Pleasance had 2 kids, Charlotte, 1890 and Daisy Emma, 1996. John Thomas then up and left and started new life with Elizabeth ??. Meanwhile Charlotte had twins Fred and William in 1900,Father William Wallace Knapp, and then had Albert Pleasance in 1906, Shoreditch. All this time claiming she was a widow?? I know guess work is rarely right when it comes to family history, so would love to know if anyone with more knowledge than me (thats all the kind people that have helped) thinks I maybe right in my thinking..
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14 Dec 2013 23:14 |
Hi, could someone please look up William W Ruopp in the 1891 census in Pontypridd... think this could be my William Wallace Knapp.. looking to trace him back before 1891 any info helpful, birth place, occ etc Thanks
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