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JOHN PERCY S. GLOVER

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xtootsy16x

xtootsy16x Report 3 Oct 2013 22:16

Hi, I am trying to find the parents and siblings of John Percy S.Glover (don't know what the S stands for) b.AMJ 1869, many thanks

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Oct 2013 22:19

Have you looked for him on any census ?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 3 Oct 2013 22:20

Births Jun 1869 (>99%)
GLOVER John Percy S Newcastle T. 10b 72

Name: John P T Glover
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Glover
Mother's Name: Jane Ann Glover
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Jesmond
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration District: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household Schedule Number: 61
Piece: 5085
Folio: 46
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
James Glover 27
Jane Ann Glover 25
John P T Glover 1
Alice M Glover 9 Months
Margaret Cummins 15

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Oct 2013 22:20

John P S Glover in household of James Glover,
"England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: John P S Glover
Age (Original): 11
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1870
Birthplace: Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: 25 North View
Event Place: Heaton, Northumberland, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342224
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5070 / 140
Page Number: 13

Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head James Glover M 37 Felling, Durham, England
Wife Jane A Glover F 34 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Son John P S Glover M 11 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Son William Glover M 7 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Daughter Florence M Glover F 6 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Daughter Annie M Glover F 3 Gosforth, Northumberland, England
Daughter Elizabeth J Glover F 1 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father In Law Peregin Henzell Stead M 66 North Shields, Northumberland, England
Mother In Law Jane Stead F 69 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Servant Mary Dufour F 18 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Oct 2013 22:21

To place him

Name: John Percy S Glover
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1869
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 72

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Oct 2013 22:24

1881 England Census about John P.S. Glover
Name: John P.S. Glover
[John P T Glover]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: James Glover
Mother: Jane A. Glover
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Heaton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 25 North View
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration District: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5070
Folio: 140
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
James Glover 37
Jane A. Glover 34
John P.S. Glover 11
William Glover 7
Florence M. Glover 6
Annie M. Glover 3
Elizabeth J. Glover 1
Peregin Henzell Stead 66
Jane Stead 69
Mary Dufour 18

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5070; Folio: 140; Page: 13; GSU roll: 1342224.

Rambling

Rambling Report 3 Oct 2013 22:24

Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)

GLOVER James Newcastle T. 10b 16

Stead Jane Ann Newcastle T. 10b 16

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Oct 2013 22:27

Name: John P S Glover
Birth Date: abt 1870
Date of Registration: Jun 1941
Age at Death: 71
Registration District: Tynemouth
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 337

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Oct 2013 22:31

You searched for John Glover in Northumberland
All 1911 England Census Results
1911 England Census about John Percy Glover
Name: John Percy Glover
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Newcastle-On-Tyne Yesmond
Civil Parish: Broomley
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: Sunny Crae Stocksfield Northumberland
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Engineering Auchoner & Valuer
Registration District: Hexham
Registration District Number: 561
Sub-registration District: Bywell
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 30892
Household Members:
Name Age
John Percy Glover 42
Clara Glover 42
John Dennis Glover 1
Agnes May Lonsdale 21 servant
Jane Sarah Shield 18 servant

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 30892.


Married 3 years 1 child born

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Oct 2013 22:40

?

Marriages Jun 1909
GLOVER John Wolverhampton 6b 1005
GRIFFITHS Clara Wolverhampton 6b 1005
PEARSON Sarah Jane Wolverhampton 6b 1005
WALTERS George William Wolverhampton 6b 1005

Flip

Flip Report 4 Oct 2013 08:31

1891 shows another younger brother for him, JPS is not with his parents - is a boarder in Barrow in Furness, a marine engine fitter so probably working in the shipyard.

James Glover
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane A Glover
Gender: Male
Where born: Felling, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Heaton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration District: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4217
Folio: 118
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
James Glover 47
Jane A Glover 44
Florence M Glover 16
Annie M Glover 12
Elizabeth J Glover 11
James H Glover 2 <<<

Flip

Flip Report 4 Oct 2013 08:37

It looks like father James died in 1900, but Jane Ann lived to a ripe old age:

Jane Ann Glover
Probate Date: 14 Feb 1933
Death Date: 26 Dec 1932
Death Place: Northumberland, England
Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne

Widow, of 11 Delaval Rd Whitley Bay. Probate to James Henry Glover, Buyer. £14 17s

Flip

Flip Report 4 Oct 2013 08:44

Annie Glover
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Jesmond
Town: Newcastle on Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration District: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 80
Piece: 4780
Folio: 137
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Glover 53 (widow)
Florence M Glover 25
James H Glover 12
Constance E Glover 27 (daughter in law)
Gladys E Glover 2 (granddaughter)
Catherine De Lucey 22 (visitor)

By 1911 she is with Harry (James H). She is a widow, but crossed off the image it states married 44 years, 8 children born but only 5 still alive.

Flip

Flip Report 4 Oct 2013 08:46

Jane Ann Stead
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Apr 1846
Christening Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father's Name: Peregrine Henzall Stead
Mother's Name: Jane

Flip

Flip Report 4 Oct 2013 09:25

Although John P is on 1911 census with Clara, it looks like he was married previously:

John Percy Glover (engineer)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 29
Spouse Name: Ellen Heaney
Spouse Age: 29
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Jun 1897
Parish: Hatcham Park All Saints
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: James Glover (Clerk)
Spouse Father Name: Peter Heaney
Register Type: Parish Register

Flip

Flip Report 4 Oct 2013 09:33

I think this is them in 1901:

Ellen Glover
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Milton, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Moss Side
Ecclesiastical parish: Moss Side Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 84
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 191
Piece: 3711
Folio: 144
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Ingham 44
Dorothy I Ingham 13
Ernest Carter 29
Edith Carter 26
Lucie Carter 21
Percy G Glover 31 <<Percy S on image, Engineers manager, born Newcastle
Ellen Glover 32
Mabel E Glover 9 Months <<born Urmston, Lancashire


Flip

Flip Report 4 Oct 2013 10:22

Shirley, not sure that 1909 marriage is right - married 3 years on 1911 census, but wonder if they were actually married, it doesn't look like he was free to marry?

Think this could be the first wife & child in 1911:

Mabel Ellen Glover
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Armston (Urmston on image)
Civil Parish: Charlton and Kidbrooke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 71 Inverine Road, Charlton
Occupation: SCHOOL
Registration District: Woolwich
Registration District Number: 30
Sub-registration District: Charlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 2853
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Glover 43 (Milton, Kent)
Mabel Ellen Glover 10
Cecil Harry Glover 7 (Hearne Bay, Kent)
Gerald Claude Glover 3 (ditto)

States Ellen married 14 years, had 4 children but 1 had died.


Flip

Flip Report 4 Oct 2013 11:10

Ellen was still around in 1921, she wrote to the army for a reference for her son Cecil Harry.

xtootsy16x

xtootsy16x Report 5 Oct 2013 14:25

Many thanks for the information, John P.S.Glover, was married before to a Louisa Jane Jeffries, they had a son who died as a baby, didn't know whether they had anymore children or whether he remarried or divorced .Many thanks again

Flip

Flip Report 5 Oct 2013 14:51

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1892
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GLOVER Charles A C Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services JEFFRIES B/59/136

And the marriage:

Cumbria Marriage indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
JEFFRIES Louisa J GLOVER John P S St James, Barrow in Furness Cumbria Certificate Services C3/3/27

They didn't have any more children in Barrow, but there is no death showing for the son or Louisa in the Barrow records - so I would assume they moved away.

I'm local, so if you don't have their marriage cert I can check out the parish records for the details if you want. May confirm if his fathers name is the same as that given when he married Ellen Heaney

Incidently, the S stands for Stead - google his full name, there are newspaper articles about his business.

Added: when he married Ellen Heaney he stated he was a bachelor.