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Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 5 Aug 2013 04:06

By the by Arthur Lincoln RICHARDSON shows up in Australia electoral roll from 1963 to 1980 in the Australian Captial Territory (ACT). Wife Elizabeth Mary is there too 1963 to 1977. But can't find their deaths in ACT nor burials there :-(

It is POSSIBLE he is still alive...if you go to www.whitepages.com.au and do a residential search (green tab), there is an A L Richardson listed in ACT...never know! :-D

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Aug 2013 08:23

I personally do think that the Colin found is the "right" one but the subject of a previous marriage could be a delicate issue ........

Emma, when we've got as far as we can I'll send you the original images of all the shipping lists and anything else useful.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 5 Aug 2013 11:06

Agreed MC :-)

Still lots to go on with here...I think Emma will be pretty chuffed!

Emma

Emma Report 5 Aug 2013 13:36

No the only picture I have is one from My husbands grandmother gave us and another a article showing him packing parcels in the war. I haven't seem this other picture!

I am at work at the moment so will get a chance to look through the information above.

Ps I don't think she knew he had been married previously - I may speak to my husband about how to approach this one to ask the question, through his mum first.

Emma

Emma

Emma Report 5 Aug 2013 13:42

Ps I am chuffed you both have been amazing. I really enjoy doing my family tree I thought I was good getting upto the 1000 mark... But recently got harder with lots of tough links to find. I am thinking of buying some additional access to resources now... One day hoping to be upto your levels xxx

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Aug 2013 13:54

Emma, I'd suggest confirming exactly when Colin died. If is WAS 1984 then the issue of a possible previous marriage needs to be tactfully addressed.

But if it was 1995 like your husband thought then we can ignore the records found.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Aug 2013 14:43

You could, if you wanted to speculate, order a copy of this marriage certificate:

Civil Registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: Colin A Richardson married Hilary C Cooke
Name: RICHARDSON, Colin A
Registration district: Kensington
County: London
Year of registration: 1939
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Taylor Or Cooke
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 661

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Name: COOKE, Hilary C
Registration district: Kensington
County: London
Year of registration: 1939
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Richardson
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 661

Name: TAYLOR, Hilary C
Registration district: Kensington
County: London
Year of registration: 1939
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name Richardson
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 661

The fact that there are two surnames for Hilary indicate that she had been previously married (or known by another surname).

Emma

Emma Report 5 Aug 2013 19:44

Hi just home from work... i have checked on the date that Colin died... and my husband is now not as sure as he was before... so could be 1984...so we have ordered his marriage certificate to Gwen which should have his birthday on and ordered the other marriage certificate to Hilary Cooke. I shall let you know when they arrive in the next few weeks. My husband is going to send me the file from his laptop of the marriage certificate we got yesterday online for arthur richardson to see if it can make out his mothers name.

Emma x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Aug 2013 19:57

Hi Emma, I doubt very much whether the marriage certificate will have his actual birth date on, they usually just give age at marriage.

Not sure if you know of this site but it's great for explaining what to expect on UK certificates:
http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm

BUT, the important thing will be to see what information it says on each one for the father of the groom - that will be the clincher. It will also be interesting to see what it says for his marital status on the one to Gwen.

Fingers crossed they don't take too long to arrive, I got some from GRO within a week.

Emma

Emma Report 5 Aug 2013 20:15

yeah fingers crossed.. your right about the certificates... think i was having a moment to myself when i thought it would give me birth dates... but good to see the other info... think i must be having one of those days... ;-)

Emma

Emma Report 5 Aug 2013 20:16

still awaiting my husbands e-mail... :-|

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Aug 2013 20:22

Well, if he's anything like mine ..........

I've taken to saving images on cloud storage e.g. Google Drive so I can access them anywhere. I used to save them on desktop pc and then found I was away and took the lappy I couldn't get them .

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Aug 2013 10:59

Another voyage on FMP in 1949
RICHARDSON Alex I 1899 F 1949 Southampton Australia Adelaide
RICHARDSON Arthur O 1876 M 1949 Southampton Australia Adelaide
RICHARDSON Paul E 1935 M 1949 Southampton Australia Adelaide

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Aug 2013 11:08

Paul - hm think he is a new one...thanks, Thelma!

Possible death in SA (recently):
Advertiser
RICHARDSON Paul Edward (Tall) 2010

He was 75 so it fits.

A notice was also placed in the Melbourne newspaper (The Age).

It is listed at Ryerson Index so you can request a lookup.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Aug 2013 12:42

I wonder if that 1949 trip had been for Colin and Gwen's wedding?


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name:
Mrs Alex I Richardson
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Birth Date: abt 1899
Departure Date: 29 Sep 1949
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Adelaide, Australia
Ship Name: Esperance
Shipping Line: Shaw Savill Line
Official Number: 151802

With Arthur O (75, retired) and Master Paul E (14). Their address while in UK had been c/o Bank of Australasia.

I think Cherilyn found an article that mentioned Arthur Lincoln as "elder son of" so Paul Edward clarifies that.

Well done Thelma.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Aug 2013 12:53

Looks like they'd stayed a few months as they arrived in April:


UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Paul E Richardson
Birth Date: abt 1937
Age: 12
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 14 Apr 1949
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane [Sydney] [Melbourne] [Colombo]
Ship Name: Esperance Bay
Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line
Official Number: 151802

with Arthur (73, retired photographer), Alex (49)

(Odd how they'd all aged 2 years by the time they left - I guess family visits can do that).

Thelma

Thelma Report 6 Aug 2013 13:07

(Odd how they'd all aged 2 years by the time they left - I guess family visits can do that). :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Emma

Emma Report 6 Aug 2013 19:47

Not sure who Alex Richardson is on the passanger list???? in 1949

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Aug 2013 19:56

Still trying to find out more about Arthur Osmond Richardson's background.

Emma has kindly sent me a scan of his marriage certificate, as previously mentioned his father was Frederick Richardson - Gent. His mother is listed as Ethel Louisa (UnKnown) - how inconsiderate not to know his other's maiden name to help us.

Arthur's residence at time of marriage was Surrey Hills but usual residence is given as Oxford Chamber, Bourke Street, Melbourne. Birthplace Northampton, England.

The witnesses were Hetty Thomas and James Middlecoat Mundell (found on later ERs as variously a traveller and a manager).

So, when did Arthur Osmond come to Australia?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Aug 2013 19:57

Emma - Alex would be Alexandrina, I think. It's a female Alex on the list.