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Hi Wendy, Cupcakes found a number for this Dawn and spoke with her. Apparently there is no connection. So either her dad isn't Victor Worthington or her dad isn't 'the' Victor Worthington. I'm not entirely sure what was said during the conversation.

Lianne x

It is always possible that Dawn doesn't know her grand fathers history. Lots of people don't. I really hope Peter/Steve finds out some of his past soon.

Wendy

oh Peter Worthington is steve. He was born peter worthington but his adoptive parents changed his name to stephen peter noble

Hi everybody. My name is Lianne, steve's daughter in law. He's finding this all very overwhelming and I have logged in to get my head around it all. Just to update you all so far there is no reply from the girls (Dawn and Paula), however somebody has spoken to one of them Dawn. She says there is no connection so I'm thinking the Dawn and Paula born from the marraige of Victor M Worthington and Kathleen Drury are not cousins of steve's and therefore neither is this Victor M Worthington. I have now written to Ronald Dudley beleived to be the son of Josephine Dudley.

I understand that a death certificate has been obtained by the lady helping steve for his late grandfather, named Michele (otherwise Michael) PACITTI of 32 Redfern Road, Willesden. He died on 4th November 1953 and was husband to steve's grandmother Maria Antonia Pacitti. The informant of the death was Anthony Pacitti. The lady helping Steve wrote to this Anthony Pacitti at the address stated (I'm yet to find out this address) in 2009 but received no reply :(

I have now messaged (on genes reunited) the lady who appears to be the wife of one of josephine's son's, david dudley.

Oh disappointment I saw you had added to the thread and thought YESSSS but No. Hope a reply arrives soon.

No reply as yet :-(

I'm so grateful for all your help and so quickly too. I will of course let you know a.s.a.p :o)

Fingers and toes crossed over here!

;-)

Well done I hope you hear back soon and in the affirmative.

I guess, if we are right, that Victor must have changed his name officially at some point as he would need is birth certificate to get married, get a passport etc.

The letters I sent first class to the adresses for the daughters of victor m worthington would have arrived today hopefully so maybe they'll contact with a link or not

Hampstead is in London near here and spans the boundaries of Camden/Brent boroughs. Willesden is also in Brent.

Southend is the other side of the River Thames from Canvey Island. Rochford and Benfleet are also the same area

Just wondering what happened to Rose after 1964.

Like you all I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Spent the past few hours carefully checking the records and finding the current addresses of the presumed daughters and their hubbies of Victor and Kathleen Worthington.
Can't be absolutely sure but all looks so promising - have PM'd the stuff to Peter

Nite all

:-D

Also the death is Josephine is registered in Southend ...this is Essex isn't it? Or am I over thinking this

No I'm in Kent not far from essex. Before recently when I'd searched a victor worthington an address in essex cropped up on the electrol roll but that victor worthington wasn't there anymore. Also in my records it said that Victor lived at review road in essex whilst my mother was in confinement

Peter are you in Essex

Oh and George Marshall ......I shall look again at the records and see what I can pull out but they're pretty vague. i am sure they basically Just state his age at the time, that he was a guest house owner and that my mother worked for him as a housekeeper :-/

ah brilliant thanks you guy's. I have had a message from another member on here with 2013 electrol roll addresses for the 2 girl's born to the Victor and kathleen (the marriage record detailed on here for victor m worthington born in 1946) i've drafted letters to each and will post them in the morning - both in the essex again!!!! Really so thankful to you all, finger's crossed!

I am shaking in my boots over here Wendy!!

:-D

Ok...........

Google GRO..........the "General Register Office"

www.gro.gov.uk

You will be asked if the GRO index number is known?

By this they mean the volume and page number.


England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
about Vittorio M Pacitti Name: Vittorio M Pacitti
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pacitti
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration District: Hampstead
Inferred County: Devon, Cornwall, Scilly. Dorset, Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1575


vol 5c page number 1575

Good luck!!

Prickles. x

I too will be so sorry if we are wrong but I have a feeling you will come up trumps.

Now.....George Marshal! Any idea where his guest house was that your mother worked?

PH I love it when we get results so fingers crosse. :-)