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Grahamwfc
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24 Jul 2013 17:10 |
Wendy, how do you do this?????
Absolutely amazing, I'm astounded that you can find this information. I'm also so very very grateful. :-D
Can't thank you enough xx
Graham
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24 Jul 2013 17:02 |
AnnCardiff, I'm new to this? Are those names potential ancestors of my old rogue Reuben?
I've no idea what the second part is but I do really value your input. I'm recording everything in a document to take along to the Bucks FHS where hopefully they can help me.
Thank you so much and apologies for my lack of understanding, I'm sure ai will get there
Graham x
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Tenerife Sun
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24 Jul 2013 16:09 |
Re 1851 Hannah Riddle 1834 niece of Mary and James Plested
Mary Riddle married James Plested 1831 Chesham re Anchestry
in 1841 Mary Plested c 1804 nee Riddle, Mary Riddle c 1768 (who I think is the mother of Mary 1804) and James Plested 1838 Mary 1804's son are at Charteridge part of Chesham Bucks. All born OUT of county. We know from the 1851 that Mary 1804 was born in Flamstead Herts.
Mary Riddle was baptised at Flamstead 06/05/1804 parents Mary and William Riddle re IGI
Other children baptised Flamstead with same parents are.
James 1800 he married Ann Hewett 18/10/1840 Chesham and lived near the two Marys and little James in 1841
Jane 01/06/1806
William 04/03/1798 he was born Great Gaddesden Herts and was a straw plaiter. He married a Hannah born c 1800 St Margarets Bucks she was a straw worker and died in 1857. I thought maybe your Hannah 1834 was his daughter but cant find any proof of this. William and Hannah had Emma 1831 - Eliza 1836 - William 1838 - Silas 1840 and Isiah 1841. Your Hannah would have fitted in there and named after her mother although I think that it is more likely that her father died, whoever he was, and her mother married Reuben Saunders.
Hannah was a popular name with this family as Willian 1798 had a grand daughter Hannah 1864 and Isiah had a daughter Hannah 1877.
This is as far as I have got but I am working through the rest of the families spouses and children as I am now intriqued. I am 99% sure in my mind that Mary Riddle 1768 and William are your Hannahs grand parents, now all I have to do is proove it.
Wendy
:-(
****EDIT *** A Mary Sloper maried a William Riddle at Flamstead in 1796 re IGI
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AnnCardiff
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24 Jul 2013 15:26 |
The National Archives | Access to Archives Her father Leonard Saunders, ... Marriage settlement of the Rev. Benjamin Plummer Pratton of Boxmoor, Herts, and Mary Anderson of Chesham, Bucks, 1843, ... www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/?records.aspx?cat=008-dx... - Cached More results from nationalarchives.gov.uk » The National Archives | Access to Archives The following names of witnesses to the Charter appear in Feet of Fines for Bucks., 7 ... yeoman, Nicholas Bennett of Chesham, surgeon ... Frauncis Saunders of ... www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/?records.aspx?cat=008-d... - Cached
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AnnCardiff
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24 Jul 2013 15:26 |
Bucks marriages -
Danl. Roberts, labr., & Frances Saunders . . 20 July ,1702,
Christopher Saunders, w., victualler, & Anne Clark, w. . . . . . . . . 27 Jan. ,, 1712
Wm. Sanders & Mary Gravney 1677
Wm. Sanders & Isabel Hickman 1677
Jos. Saunders, of Amersham, & Eliz. Osborne,1798
Full text of "Buckinghamshire parish registers. Marriages" Full text of "Buckinghamshire parish registers. Marriages" www.archive.org/stream/?buckinghamshirep08phil/... - Cached More results from archive.org »
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Grahamwfc
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24 Jul 2013 15:20 |
Tenerife Sun, I have just see your subsequent message, thank you and yes still looking for mum
Am I being a clutz here, who is mum from the information provided on your 1841 search.?
:-)
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Grahamwfc
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24 Jul 2013 15:10 |
Thank you Tenerife Sun
Is the possible deduction, Mary' s brother is James Riddle and Hannah is the child of his wife Ann albeit by Reuben Saunders? I guess more likely another sibling of Mary?
I have some scribbled notes that Hannah may have siblings. I have C 1851 by them which indicates I used that census, Eliza 19, Jane 13, Sophia 7. I think on the 1861 there is an Ann Riddall aged 67. I may have taken these from the UKcensusonline website as don't have ability to drill into, so surmising
I really appreciate your help thank you
Graham :-)
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Tenerife Sun
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24 Jul 2013 14:52 |
Graham are you still looking for Hannaha mother?
1841 with possibly her mother
Name: Mary Plessed (corrected to Plested) [Mary Plested] Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Gender: Female Civil Parish: Chesham Hundred: Burnham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
View Image Registration District: Amersham Sub-registration District: Chesham Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 47 Book: 12 Folio: 6 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Mary Riddles 73 Mary Plessed 38 Jas Plasled 3
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Tenerife Sun
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24 Jul 2013 14:14 |
This has to be a connection somewhere
Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 about Jas Plested Name: Jas Plested Spouse: Mary Riddle Marriage Date: 1831 Parish: Chesham The following was found by MIke* earlier in the thread
1851
Mary Plested 48 - pauper James Plested 12 - son Hannah Ridle 16 - niece
3 doors away lives James and Ann Riddle and their daughter Eliza is a straw Plait maker
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Grahamwfc
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24 Jul 2013 08:59 |
Thank you Penny, very detailed and all helpful, the search for a on for Mum
Graham x
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Penny
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24 Jul 2013 08:16 |
to add a bit of meat to the bones, witnesses
Name:Edwin Dwight
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1852
Registration District:Amersham
Inferred County:Buckinghamshire
Volume Number:3a
Page Number:444
Edwin Dwight Mary Finall
At a guess I'd say Mary was Eli's sister.
( Dwight I can lay claim to!)
Co-incidentally Hannah is with them in 1861 census, lodger
Name:Hannah Riddel Age:27
Estimated Birth Year:bt 1834
Relation Lodger
Gender:Female
Where born: Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish:Chesham
County/Island:Buckinghamshire
Country:England
Condition as to marriage: UNMARRIED!
Registration District:Amersham
Sub-registration District: Chesham ED, institution, or vessel: 11b
Household Schedule Number:49
Piece:846
Folio:8
Page Number10
Household Members
Edwin Dwight 29 Mary Dwight 29 Hannah Riddel 27 Elizabeth Riddel 3 George Riddel 4 Months
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Grahamwfc
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23 Jul 2013 19:45 |
Thank you Anncardiff, I think I managed just now back to establish the Dinton Reuben married in Dinton, so as unusual as the name is, not my old rogue,
Really impressed with the information you all produce. Had my first visit to a bucks record office today and quickly discovered I need a set plan and not to butterfly around. The big database that you can drill into is only available on a Tuesay but the local Family History Society help on a Tuesday and they found RS in the marriage records for me.
So much to learn and understand but a worthwhile exercise I'm finding.
Thank you all again xx :-)
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AnnCardiff
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23 Jul 2013 18:28 |
Name: Reuben Saunders Age (Original): 71 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1810 Birthplace: Ford Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Widower Occupation: Shepherd & Ag Labourer Address: Ford Dinton Event Place: Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1341357 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 1473 / 114 Page Number: 1 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Reuben Saunders M 71 Ford Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Sarah Saunders F 38 Moreton Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England Son James Saunders M 42 Ford Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England
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Grahamwfc
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23 Jul 2013 18:27 |
Thank you so much everyone that is just fantastic, really appreciate all the kind help :-) :-) <3
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Mike *
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23 Jul 2013 18:20 |
1841
Ann Riddle 27 Anna Riddle 6 - born:Buckinghamshire, <<<<<
Could this be Hannah ?
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Tenerife Sun
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23 Jul 2013 18:19 |
I think Hannah died in 1879,Amersham covers Chesham, even though Eli is recorded as married in the 1881 census
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Mar 1879 (>99%) Final Hannah 44 Amersham 3a 361
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23 Jul 2013 18:16 |
For our ref
1861
Edwin Dwight 29 Mary Dwight 29 Hannah Riddel 27- unmar - Lodger Elizabeth Riddel 3 - lodger George Riddel 4 Months - lodger
Assume the children belong to Hannah
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Mike *
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23 Jul 2013 18:09 |
The original 1851 census has no occupation for Hannah who is described as Niece.
Mary Plested 48 - pauper James Plested 12 - son Hannah Ridle 16 - niece
3 doors away lives James and Ann Riddle and their daughter Eliza is a straw Plait maker
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23 Jul 2013 17:55 |
There is also this baptism ...
Name: Reuben Sanders
Gender:Male Birth Date:25 Feb 1810
Christening Date:12 Apr 1810 Christening Place:Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England
Age at Christening 0 Father's Name:Francis Sanders Mother's Name:Mary
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AnnCardiff
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23 Jul 2013 17:23 |
Name: Hannah Final Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 35 Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Birthplace: Chesham, Buckinghamshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Amersham Sub-District: Chesham Parish: Chesham County: Buckinghamshire Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Eli Final M 33 Chesham, Buckinghamshire Wife Hannah Final F 35 Chesham, Buckinghamshire Son George Final M 10 Chesham, Buckinghamshire Daughter Jane Final F 8 Chesham, Buckinghamshire Son Alfred Final M 5 Chesham, Buckinghamshire
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