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Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 13:06

I wondered the same Marie!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jul 2013 12:54

Could the lodger on the 1881 be the father of Emily?

DOUGLAS, Elizabeth Head Married F 36 1845 Wife Wakefield, Yorkshire
DOUGLAS, Fred Son Single M 16 1865 Coal Miner Stanley, Yorkshire
DOUGLAS, Willm Son Single M 15 1866 Labourer Stanley, Yorkshire
DOUGLAS, James Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Stanley, Yorkshire
DOUGLAS, Mar Eliz Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Stanley, Yorkshire
DOUGLAS, Emily Daughter Single F 0 1881 Stanley, Yorkshire
DOUGLAS, Walter Ed Son Single M 3 1878 Stanley, Yorkshire
SPARNELL, John Boarder M 33 1848 Stanley, Yorkshire ???
DOUGLAS, Lot Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Stanley, Yorkshire

Piece: 4574 Folio: 133 Page: 30
Registration District: Wakefield
Civil Parish: Stanley with Wrenthorpe

Address: 3, Shires Row, Stanley With Wrenthorpe County: Yorkshire (West riding)

kira112

kira112 Report 22 Jul 2013 12:41

Thankyou All for the extra info
Regards
K

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 05:53

If you track the family back, the father James appears on 1871, but not 1881 - think this is why:

James Douglas
Date of Trial: 6 Mar 1877
Trial Year: 1877
Location of Trial: Yorkshire - West Riding, England
Sentence: Imprisonment (10 years)
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

James Douglas
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Convict (Prisoner)
Gender: Male
Where born: Thornhill, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Rochester St Margaret
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: "H M Prison Borstal"
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Collier

Registration District: Medway
Sub-registration District: Rochester
ED, institution, or vessel: H M Prison Borstal
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 889
Folio: 9
Page Number: 15

So when Emily was born he was in prison.

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 05:45

Emily's older sisters christening names a father - he was a miner, of Lane End:

Martha Elizabeth Douglas
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1875
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1875
Father's Name: James Douglas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Douglas

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 05:42

Harold Douglas
Birth Date: 27 Apr 1900
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Baptism Date: 20 May 1900
Father's Name: Douglas
Mother's Name: Emily Douglas

No father or occupation stated, of Lane End, Stanley

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 05:40

Emily Duglas
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1880
Father's Name: Duglas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Duglas

Of Lane End, Stanley - no father named - but states Elizabeth as married woman in the occupation bit.

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 05:36

Emily Douglas
Birth Year: abt 1880
Age: 22
Marriage or Bann Date: 25 Dec 1902
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Spouse's Name: Thomas Atkinson (coal miner age 24)
Spouse's Father's Name: John Atkinson (Coal miner)

No father named for Emily. Neither married before, he lived Small Thorn grove, Castleford, she lived Land End Stanley. Witnesses Fred Rogers and Jane Douglas

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 05:26

Horace Atkinson
Birth Date: 2 Jul 1903
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1903
Father's Name: Thomas Atkinson
Mother's Name: Emily Atkinson

Cyril Atkinson
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1905
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Baptism Date: 9 Apr 1905
Father's Name: Thomas Atkinson
Mother's Name: Emily Atkinson

Ben Atkinson
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1907 (should read 31 October 1907)
Parish: Stanley, St Peter
Baptism Date: 1 Dec 1907
Father's Name: Thomas Atkinson
Mother's Name: Emily Atkinson

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 05:15

So this one, but it doesn't give a birthdate - father a miner:

Hilda Atkinson
Parish: Glass Houghton, St Paul
Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1909
Father's Name: Thomas Atkinson
Mother's Name: Emily Atkinson

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jul 2013 05:11

Hi Ann, I think it more likely to be the one born Glassoughton on the census posted by Alemap - you found a christening with parents Thomas/Sarah which pre-dates the birth of the Hilda Kira is looking for.

Could have been either of them, but the new info on birth would now rule one out.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Jul 2013 17:20

is the informaton I posted not relevant then?

kira112

kira112 Report 21 Jul 2013 14:53

Hilda married William B Norton MQ1935 She died Apr 1997 age 88 Birthdate on Reg is 13 Sep 1909

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jul 2013 14:39

Possible marriage for the parents of the second Hilda

Marriages Dec 1902
Atkinson Thomas Wakefield 9c 65
Brook Charles Edward Wakefield 9c 65
Douglas Emily Wakefield 9c 65
GOULTHORPE Clara Wakefield 9c 65

1901

Name: Emily Douglas
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A Douglas
Gender: Female
Where born: Stanley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Stanley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Lee Moor
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Wakefield
Sub-registration District: Stanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 195
Piece: 4282
Folio: 68
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth A Douglas 55
James Douglas 30
Emily Douglas 20
Harold Douglas 11 Months
Walter Shaw 45



1891

Name: Emily Douglas
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A Douglas
Gender: Female
Where born: Stanley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: Stanley
Town: Stanley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Wakefield
Sub-registration District: Stanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3747
Folio: 78
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth A Douglas 47
James Douglas 21
Lot Douglas 19
Martha Eliz Douglas 16
Walter Douglas 14
Emily Douglas 11
Thomas Hy Morris 20

Alemap

Alemap Report 21 Jul 2013 14:37

Think there are 3 possibles two registered q3 1909 and 1 registered q4.

Edit:
From the three
One is Hilda Mary so can be eliminated.
One Hilda registered Q3 and one registered Q4, with a birth date of mid Sep could be either.

kira112

kira112 Report 21 Jul 2013 14:36

I think the Garden St Glasshoughton one is more likley Thankyou again
Regards
K

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 21 Jul 2013 14:33

Kira, As pointed out there are two possibilities, that is why Flip is asking how you got back to her and who she married. Can you add any more information please to help find which is the correct Hilda?

Flip

Flip Report 21 Jul 2013 14:31

Yes, but there are 2 Hilda's born around the same time - if you could say how you arrived at her it may be possible to eliminate one or the other.

kira112

kira112 Report 21 Jul 2013 14:27

Thankyou Dea Methley is very near to Glassoughton

Dea

Dea Report 21 Jul 2013 14:26

Another 'possible' ??

1911 census transcription details for: Garden St Glasshoughton
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN27511 RG78PN1574 RD505 SD4 ED25 SN77
Reg. District: Pontefract
Sub District: Castleford
Parish: Glass Houghton
Enum. District: 25
Address: Garden St Glasshoughton
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ATKINSON, Thomas Head Married M 32 1879 Coal Miner Hewer Yorks Stanley
ATKINSON, Emily Wife Married 8 years F 30 1881 Yorks Stanley
ATKINSON, Harold Douglas Son M 10 1901 School Yorks Stanley
ATKINSON, Horace Son M 7 1904 Yorks Stanley
ATKINSON, Cyril Son M 6 1905 Yorks Castleford
ATKINSON, Ben Son M 3 1908 Yorks Glasshoughton
ATKINSON, Hilda Daughter F 1 1910 Yorks Glasshoughton

Dea x