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20 Jul 2013 11:26 |
Is any of the info of use to you?
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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20 Jul 2013 11:24 |
And here was me thinking this surname would be easy, peasy to research!!!! :-D
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20 Jul 2013 11:24 |
Gotta go shopping or we'll starve, will check back later.
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ErikaH
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20 Jul 2013 11:14 |
1851 census
Person: SMETHURST, Jane Address: 5, Agenorian Buildings, Manchester
SMETHURST, Joseph Head Married M 51 1800 Labouring Chemist Bolton-By-Boland, Yorkshire VIEW SMETHURST, Eliza Wife Married F 40 1811 Illegible Ireland VIEW SMETHURST, Ellen Dau Unmarried F 15 1836 Illegible Manchester, Lancashire VIEW SMETHURST, Elizabeth Dau F 8 1843 Illegible Manchester, Lancashire VIEW SMETHURST, Jane Dau F 5 1846 Illegible Manchester, Lancashire VIEW SMETHURST, Sarah Dau F 0 (10M) 1851 Illegible Manchester, Lancashire
This must have been one of the water-damaged records.......the image is typed, having been transcribed by Manchester FHS
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20 Jul 2013 11:13 |
Think you are right Reggie
Elizabeth Huntsworth Age: Full Age Marriage Date: 5 Nov 1876 Parish: Hulme, St Mary Parish as it Appears: S Marys Hulme Father's Name: Charles Huntsworth Spouse's Name: Charles Thomas Spouse's Father's Name: Mobert Thomas Reference Number: M321/2/2/2 Item Number: 3 Archive Roll: 823
He is a carter, and a widow. His father a joiner and hers what looks like Bone or Prone cutter. He lived 84 Erskill? st and her at 86. Again, not mention of fathers being deceased.
Added, forgot to say witnesses were George & Jane Thomas
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ErikaH
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20 Jul 2013 11:10 |
Looks like the marriage address was one of convenience............
1861 census
Address: 10, Alpha Street, Hulme, Manchester
88 BARROLL, John Head Married M 36 1825 Lithographic Printer Manchester, Lancashire VIEW 88 BARROLL, Ellen Wife Married F 33 1828 Shalford, Lancashire VIEW 88 BARROLL, John Son M 14 1847 Gold Ticker Printer Manchester, Lancashire VIEW 88 BARROLL, Henry Son M 9 1852 Scholar Halifax, Yorkshire VIEW 88 BARROLL, Charles E Son M 6 1855 Scholar Halifax, Yorkshir
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ErikaH
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20 Jul 2013 11:07 |
Thank, Flip...........looks like his sister was a witness.........
Would you have time to check the marriage I just posted..............I don't have Ancestry nowadays
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ErikaH
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20 Jul 2013 11:05 |
Suggestion....................
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HUNTSWORTH Elizabeth THOMAS Charles Hulme, St. Mary Manchester 68/2/43
1881 census
Person: THOMAS, Elizabeth Address: 7, Upper Medlock St, Chorlton Upon Medlock Cost
THOMAS, Charles Head Married M 47 1834 Labourer (Water Works) Llansanttfrid, Montgomeryshire, Wales VIEW THOMAS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 46 1835 Shop Keeper Manchester, Lancashire VIEW THOMAS, Charles Hy Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire VIEW MARSH, Joseph Boarder Single M 28 1853 Labourer (Water Works) Manchester, Lancashire
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20 Jul 2013 10:59 |
You got the right marriage for Charles Reggie:
Cahrles Huntsworth (button maker) Birth Year: abt 1844 Age: 17 Marriage Date: 21 May 1861 Parish: Manchester, St John Parish as it Appears: Manchester Father's Name: Charles Huntsworth (button maker) Spouse's Name: Jane Smethurst Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Smethurst (labourer) Reference Number: GB127.M403/6/3/34
She was also 17, both were from 10 Alpha?? street. Witnesses William Parker and Priscilla Huntsworth. It does not state either father as deceased
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20 Jul 2013 10:53 |
Charles' widow re-married in 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HEYWOOD John HUNTSWORTH Jane Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/145/27 HEYWOOD John SMETHURST Jane Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/145/27 HUNTSWORTH Jane HEYWOOD John Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/145/27 SMETHURST Jane HEYWOOD John Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/145/27
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20 Jul 2013 10:51 |
1881 census
Person: HUNTSWORTH, Charles Address: 67, Hall St, Chorlton Upon Medlock
HUNTSWORTH, Charles Head Married M 36 1845 Button Maker Unemployed Macclesfield, Cheshire VIEW HUNTSWORTH, Jane Wife Married F 35 1846 Button Maker Unemployed Mchester, Lancashire VIEW HUNTSWORTH, Priscilla Daughter Single F 19 1862 Tailoress Mchester, Lancashire VIEW HALL, Charles Lodger Single M 26 1855 Button Maker Unemployed Coventry, Warwickshire
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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1883 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HUNTSWORTH Priscilla GRUNDY Thomas Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registar Attended Manchester CHO_RM/62/114
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20 Jul 2013 10:47 |
If this was the son, he was barely old enough
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HUNTSWORTH Charles SMETHURST Jane Manchester, St. John Manchester STJ/21/461
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20 Jul 2013 10:45 |
Struggling, Flip..............
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20 Jul 2013 10:43 |
1891 census
Person: HUNTSWORTH, Charles Address: 30, Providence Street, Manchester HUNTSWORTH, Charles Head Married M 46 1845 Bone Cutter Macclesfield, Cheshire VIEW HUNTSWORTH, Jane Wife Married F 45 1846 Manchester, Lancashire
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20 Jul 2013 10:42 |
Don't know about you Reggie, but I'm not finding anything for Mary or Charles post 1851 - can't see deaths, so checked ancestry migration records but nothing coming up.
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20 Jul 2013 10:41 |
One of the sons......................
Deaths Mar 1894 (>99%) Huntsworth Charles 49 Manchester 8d 164
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20 Jul 2013 10:38 |
Presume one of these was first wife?
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1838 Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference HUNTSWORTH Maria 28 Saint George Manchester STG/2/64 HUNTSWORTH Maria 38 London Road Manchester LRD/2/83
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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20 Jul 2013 10:34 |
1841 - Chas Huntsworth believe he's in prison in Cheshire, where Henry/Priscilla are I don't know. Believe Elizabeth is living with my 3xGreat-Grandfather, Richard Huntsworth.
Thanks for those details, Reggie.
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20 Jul 2013 10:33 |
FMP's transcription
1851 census
Person: HUNTSMITH, Charles Address: 7, Edge Street, Manchester HUNTSMITH, Charles Head Married M 49 1802 Button Maker Hanley, Staffordshire VIEW HUNTSMITH, Mary Wife Married F 41 1810 Macclesfield, Cheshire VIEW HUNTSMITH, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Smallaid Nurse Manchester, Lancashire VIEW HUNTSMITH, Henry Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Butter Maker Manchester, Lancashire VIEW HUNTSMITH, Priscilla Daughter F 13 1838 Silk Factory Manchester, Lancashire VIEW HUNTSMITH, Charles Son M 7 1844 Scholar Manchester, Cheshire VIEW KEUGH, Michael Lodger M 28 1823 Chair Maker Ireland VIEW HEATH, James Lodger M 35 1816 Chair Maker Ireland VIEW COOK, John Lodger M 66 1785 Pensioner Manchester, Nottinghamshire VIEW PATTISON, John Lodger M 40 1811 Traveller Scotland VIEW PATTISON, Susan Lodger F 36 1815 Traveller Tunderlgnd, Derbyshire VIEW ANSLE, Elizabeth Lodger F 19 1832 Shoe Binder Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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20 Jul 2013 10:31 |
Don't know exactly where Charles was born, Reggie. Research suggests he was baptised in Sudbury, Derbyshire.
That's him Flip. Where was Mary born, I haven't made a note of it on my tree.
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