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Herbert Dearman born 1880

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Jun 2013 19:33

This would be him in 1911, occupation matches the death record:

ROWSELL, Annie Head Widow F 45 1866 Middlesex Enfield
ROWSELL, William Son Single M 18 1893 Groom Gardner Domestic Middlesex Enfield
ROWSELL, Charles Son M 13 1898 School Middlesex Enfield
DEARMAN, Herbert Nephew Single M 25 1886 Hat Case Maker Middlesex Enfield
DEARMAN, Lily Niece Single F 17 1894 Servant Domestic Middlesex Enfield

RG number: RG14 Piece: 7419
Reference: RG14PN7419 RG78PN358 RD132 SD6 ED12 SN98
Registration District: Edmonton
Sub District: Enfield
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: Enfield

Address: 23 Lea Road Enfield Middlesex County: Middlesex

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Jun 2013 19:30

This would be the outward voyage for the man who died:

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr H Dearman
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: 21 Sep 1929
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Cape Town, South Africa
Ship Name: Themistocles
Shipping Line: White Star-Aberdeen
Official Number: 129349
Master: A D Young

A bit of a discrepancy on the age, occupation stated as clerk. Headed to Capetown, intended to live in South Africa.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Jun 2013 19:23

Hi Anne, lets see if we can save you the cost of buying the death certificate.

On the actual image of the 1929 at sea death record that alviegal posted the transcription for, there is the following information:

Herbert Dearman, age 46, a portmanteau maker. British, born Middlesex.

Home address was 25 Harrow Road, Paddington. There is another address - 11 Grey Street, Bloemfontein and this has OFS after it. (Perhaps it was the address at his destination?)

Cause of death was Haemoptyses, secondary to pulmonary pthisisis.

Anne

Anne Report 25 Jun 2013 17:12

Can you tell me where I can get a copy of the Death Certificate.

Anne

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Jun 2013 16:58

Are you sure this is him? He was a labourer going on to NZ.


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Mr H Dearman
Name: Mr H Dearman
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1882
Departure Date: 22 May 1920
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Osterley

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Jun 2013 16:47

For ref.



1891 census transcription details for: 6, Tapster Street, Chipping Barnet, Barnet
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1053
Folio: 32
Page: 8
Reg. District: Barnet
Sub District: Barnet
Parish: Chipping Barnet
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: St John the Baptist
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 6, Tapster Street, Chipping Barnet, Barnet
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DEARMAN, James Head Married M 40 1851 Carman
Baldock, Hertfordshire
DEARMAN, Edith Wife Married F 29 1862
Barnet, Hertfordshire
DEARMAN, George Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Baldock, Hertfordshire
DEARMAN, Herbert Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Baldock, Hertfordshire
DEARMAN, Harry Son M 5 1886
Baldock, Hertfordshire
MORRIS, Kate Stepdaughter F 3 1888
Barnet, Hertfordshire
DEARMAN, George Lodger Married M 30 1861 Carman
Baldock, Hertfordshire


Registration event: death
Print Close
Name: DEARMAN, Herbert
Date of death: 8 October 1929
Age:
Place of death: At Sea
Place of birth: British Middlesex
Belonging to service:
Ship's name: Themistocles
Series: BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea
Box: 0087
Page: 50

Anne

Anne Report 25 Jun 2013 16:21

I am trying to trace a great uncle. His name is Herbert Dearman and he was born in Hitchin in 1880. His father was James John Dearman b.1850 and his mother Lydia Bush b.1849. I can find no reference for Herbert after 1901 census until 1920 when he was on RMS Osterley bound for Sydney Australia. On further investigation I found a death notice for H. Dearman in 1929 which stated he died at sea on board Themosticles. Coincidentally these two ships were in the same fleet. Any help in finding out whether these two people are the same would be greatly appreciated.

Anne