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Herbert Dearman born 1880

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Jun 2013 23:36

I've traced the Herbert who died on the ship as being born Bertie Arthur Dearborn in Edmonton in 1884. Appears to be the illegitimate son of Ellen/Helen Dearborn. Her mother Sarah married a Frederick Wiseman (hence the Sarah Wiseman on that 1901).

The Annie Rowsell that Herbert is with on the 1901 & 1911 is his mother's sister.

At some point between 1901 & 1911 he must have decided he preferred the name of Herbert.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 30 Aug 2017 07:41

The Brother on above...

Hertfordshire Baptisms Baldock, England (Find My Past)

Dearman George Henry — 1879 (Baptism February 2nd. Parents James and Lydia)


Do you have Birthdate, can sometimes be helpful with Overseas Census search)

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
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DEARMAN Herbert Hitchin 3a 396


Hertfordshire Baptisms Baldock, England

Dearman Herbert — 1880 (Baptism Sept. 26th)

Chris :)

(and MC you are missed!)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2017 09:56

Just reading Herbert's army documentation - interesting! Pages and pages of it.

Harry Dearman
in the Canada, WWI CEF Personnel Files, 1914-1918
Name: Harry Dearman
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1879
Birth Place: Baldock, England
Relative: Mr G Dearman
Regimental Number: 9663



He had a number of tattoos:
a spray of fern on his chest; "basket of flowers, peacock, etc" on left arm; female figures on his right arm; a man's figure on his left leg, and a female figure on his right leg.

He banked with the Bank of Montreal in Toronto.

In 1915 he was initially reported missing, then discovered to be a PoW at Geissen. Moved to various other PoW camps, then repatriated to England (Ripon) in January 1919.

In 1919 there's a record of pay Oct - Dec, with address 37 Faraday St [or Ct ?], Camberwell, E17.
another page says "For repatriation overseas (Toronto) after the War."

Reading on -
there's a page headed "Will Enquiry", which says "Undated Will removed from Docs and sent to Leg 6/DVA"
It appears to be dated 28/6/ 54
I wonder if that's when he died?

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EDIT:
another page says "Deceased 7/6/54"
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Anne

Anne Report 30 Aug 2017 10:50

So Herbert (Harry) was a POW and repatriated to Ripon and then onward to Canada. Is there any record of a marriage?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Aug 2017 11:47

No, that record doesn't mention marriage - or any family apart from brother George.

Also no address for after demob.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2017 11:53

You can look at his Service documents here - don't give up - they take a while to load onto the screen

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B2397-S019

Records here show him as a single man

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Aug 2017 12:04

This site tells you about Red Cross POW records
http://www.1914-1918.net/soldiers/icrc.html

It's well worth reading how to search the records

and a couple of paragraphs down under "Where are the records" there is a link to
http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/

Enter his surname and go from there - there are 3 references for him