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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Jun 2013 09:22

Name Prior, Richard William Charles
Official Number: 229401
Place of Birth: Bromley, Kent
Date of Birth: 25 December 1887

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/royal-naval-seamen.htm

(just adding above link, if you want above Record, £3.36 to download)

Chris :)

Catherine

Catherine Report 12 Jun 2013 09:03

Rootgatherer,
Any chance of finding out who else was living at that address?
If there were others with the name of Prior, then maybe they were related.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Jun 2013 16:18

This is the only other reference I can find for him.

Name: Richard A Prior
Address: 2323 Latrium Cir N # L, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, 32082-2925 (1990)
[2772 Bordeaux CT, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, 32082-2901 (1990)]

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 10 Jun 2013 23:43

Yes absolute positive Catherine. can anyone see any more information on rootgetherers post as it is the right name and DOB ?

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Jun 2013 22:05

Hi Jennifer,
So are the parents definately Richard William Prior and Ada (mmn. Hanson)?
Catherine

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 10 Jun 2013 20:27

I had assumed it was anthony (it is a family name) all I had was A as a middle initial.

The Birth Cert is the right one I'm 100% sure right parents. just goes to show you should never make asumptions!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Jun 2013 20:02

Hi Jennifer - I thought that earlier you had said his middle name was Anthony? Does all the other info on the birth certificate match up?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 10 Jun 2013 19:19

The birth certificate arrived today

Richard Arthur Prior b 01.08.1919 weymouth

going to look at that american death record

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jun 2013 21:58

Somebody on ancestry has this:-

Richard A Prior
1919
Sep
Weymouth, Wiltshire
1 source citation

parents:-
Richard William Charles Prior 1887 – 1967
Ada Hanson 1895 – 1969

Marriage to Ada Susannah Taylor
1935
ABT Age: 16
Death 1995
ABT Age: 76


Ada :- Birth 7 APR 1919 in 65 Newcome Road, Kingston Portsmouth
Death 19 OCT 1995 in West Glamorgan

............. went on to marry:-

Marriage to Edward James Rickard

1941 8 Sep
Age: 22
Registry Office Islington

..............and they had two children.

So it does give his date of death as 1995 which fits with american record.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 3 Jun 2013 21:17

I, not sure am waiting for his birth cert. but it was quarter 3 1919 his middle name is Anthony. I never thought of him being in america, i suppose because of the family telling me he went to south africa - nothing to have stopped him doing both!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jun 2013 12:20

Do you have an exact date of birth for him please?

Wondering about this man

Name: Richard A. Prior
SSN: 592-54-9868
Last Residence: 32082 Ponte Vedra Beach, Saint Johns, Florida, United States of America
Born: 1 Aug 1919
Died: 22 Sep 1995
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (1987)

Name: Richard A Prior
Birth Date: 1 Aug 1919
Address: 501 Alabama Ave, Fort Lauderdale, FL, 33312-1957



What was his middle name please? Could he have been known by that to avoid confusion with his father?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Jun 2013 17:54

He was only 17 when his girlfriend became pregnant. his father RWC was retired by then and eventually adopted the Richard I am looking for and brougt him up with his aunty pauline . we think the Richard I am looking for was kind of sent off to make his fortune which is where I have lost rack of him. I don't think he returned home we only have this small snippet that he becam a music critic on one of the South African newspapers ....:(

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 17:24

just for ref:-

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Mrs Ida Prior
Name: Mrs Ida Prior
Gender: Female
Age: 29

xxxx Birth Date: abt 1895

Departure Date: 26 Apr 1924
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Malta
Ship Name: Morvada
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Morvada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: British India Shipping and Navigation Company, Limited
Official Number: 136319
Master: T L Mills


Have had a look for the family coming back into England, but can't see any of them?

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 17:13

If his father was in the navy, then this may also be relevant:-

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Richard Prior
Name: Richard Prior
Birth Date: abt 1888
Age: 27
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 17 Apr 1915
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Suez]
Ship Name: Medina
Search Ship Database: View the 'Medina' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 131849

Occupation:- Royal Navy
Coming back from China.

.........................................................

and also:-

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Richard William Prior
Name: Richard William Prior
Gender: Male
Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1887
Departure Date: 12 May 1934
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Lisbon, Portugal
Ship Name: Highland Patriot
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Highland Patriot' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Royal Mail Lines Limited
Official Number: 161883
Master: R H Robinson
Heading for:- Buenos Aires

Occupation:- Columbian Navy A.B.

.............so if this is his father and the family followed him around the world, then your man could have married anywhere!

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Jun 2013 17:08

Yes Catherine you have the right family - wow I had never found those before. It is their son Richard I am looking for and he could have only left the UK after 1936 when his illegitamate son was born. I can't find any trace of him after that. I thought he might have been in the merchant navy as we have a photo of him in uniform, but I haven't found any trace of that either. andhe was definately in south africa but I have found no trace of that either.

the entry you found for Richard W C Prior was his father who was in the navy. the firs one is his wife with their youngest daughter Pauline - this if fabuous information that I have never seen thank you so much.

Just seen the date his dad, Richard W C arrived back hmmm wonder if it is coneceted with the Richard I am looking for his son (also Richard) was born in the August!

:-D

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 16:59

His father?

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
PRIOR Richard William C Bromley 2a 422
The district Bromley spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London and Kent

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Richard W C Prior
Name: Richard W C Prior
Birth Date: abt 1888
Age: 48
Port of Departure: San Antonio, Chile
Arrival Date: 25 May 1936
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ports of Voyage: Liverpool
[Talcahuano]
[Callao]
Ship Name: Orduna
Search Ship Database: View the 'Orduna' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Pacific Steam Navigation Co
Official Number: 135539

Occupation:- Naval
Address:- 37 Ferndale Road, Weymouth

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 16:51

Only two marriages Prior to Hanson including this one:-

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
Hanson Ada Prior Newcastle T. 10b 287
Prior Richard W Hanson Newcastle T. 10b 287

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 16:49

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Prior Richard A Hanson Weymouth 5a 416

...............mother's maiden name is Hanson, so, this may be him ?


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Richard Prior
Name: Richard Prior
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Birth Date: abt 1920
Departure Date: 26 Apr 1924
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Malta
Ship Name: Morvada
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Morvada' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: British India Shipping and Navigation Company, Limited
Official Number: 136319
Master: T L Mills

Travelling with:-
Mrs. Ida Prior
Address:- 24 Bradford Road, Southsea

and:- Pauline Prior aged 2yrs


Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Prior Pauline I Hanson Portsmouth 2b 914

Was his mother's name Ida?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 2 Jun 2013 15:34

His birth record is 1919 weymouth Q3

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Jun 2013 15:30

When and where was he born?