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Various possible marriages for Norah:

Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Wilson Norah G Noone W.Derby 8b 1060

Marriages Sep 1942 (>99%)
Wilson Norah G Galloway Watford 3a 3490

Marriages Jun 1943 (>99%)
Wilson Norah G Batt Poole 5a 779

Marriages Jun 1946 (>99%)
Wilson Norah G Briggs Wigton 10b 1543

Janique -
In addition to the questions asked by MarieCeleste on page 1:

is Mildred named Beazley on the birth certificate; or is that her adoptive parents' name added on to her birth name of Wilson?

hi ive called my auntie and she told me my nan mildred was adopted to a family in godshill on the isle of wight called beazley.and yes it says mildred wilson beazley on the birth certificate.

Hello again Janique, just to repeat what I previously asked about Mildred's birth:

Have you seen the actual certificate yourself? If so, can you give us the following:

Mildred's exact date of birth from the certificate

Is there any mention of address or occupation for Norah Gladys?

Did Norah register the birth, or someone else?

We need this info to try to trace Norah .....

ok mildreds d.o.b is the 28th of august 1918 and it was nora who registered the birh i also have an address 22 woodford road london.will have to ask my auntie again about occupation.

To repeat what I said before, there is no Mildred Beazley (or variant spelling) born anywhere in England / Wales 1916 - 20, with mms Wilson.

This remains the most likely birth record:

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Wilson Mildred Wilson Lambeth 1d 489

It sounds as though you haven't seen the original birth cert, Janique.
Perhaps what your aunt has is the adoption certificate?

Quote from:
http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/services/a-f/copycertificates/faqs/howcanifindmyoriginalbirthoradoptionrecord.htm

"In most cases, a child's birth will have been registered within six weeks of their date of birth at a Register Office and a birth certificate will have been issued. The record may have been registered by one or both parents or other informant such as a social worker and will show who the mother is, and sometimes who the father is.

Once a legal adoption takes place, a new 'adoption certificate' is created showing the child's new name and new adoptive parent(s). Since 1927, all adoptions granted by the courts in England and Wales, and some overseas adoptions, are recorded in the Adopted Children Register which is held by the General Register Office (GRO) in Southport.

Most adopted children therefore have two birth records; the original birth certificate being superseded by the adoption certificate."

From
http://www.dfw.org.uk/adoption-faqs
"For all official purposes. e.g. getting married or applying for a passport, your adoption certificate is required; this is sometimes known as your birth certificate and it shows the name given to you by your adoptive parents as well as their names."

thank you for that i will have to go down to see my auntie and ask to see the birth certificate.once again thanks.

To anybody who comes across this thread, some years on, I can confirm that I requested and recieved the birth certificate from GRO for Mildred Wilson 1918 Sept LAMBETH 01D 489 highlighted by ArgyllGran above.

This gives the following:
* Name: Mildred (no middle names)
* Birth date 28.8.1918, birth address 4 Belgravia Terrace, Stockwell
* Details of father - none given
* Details of mother - Nora Gladys Wilson, a farm labourer of 22 Woodford Road, Watford
* Informant - N G Wilson (22 Woodford Road)
* Registered 9.9.1918

There is no mention of Beazley on the birth certificate. So the above linked file must be the Adoption certificate?

Janique still seems to be a member and you could contact her by clicking on her name and send a pm. If she has still got the same email address she will get a notification from Genes. Otherwise it is unlikely that she would find your post after all this time.

If Janique was correct in saying that "it says mildred wilson beazley on the birth certificate" (and it's still not clear if she had actually seen the document herself or was just taking her aunt's word for it ) then yes, that was presumably the adoption cert.

Cheers guys, I've pinged her an email - let's see. It looks like I might be able to request the adoption cert from GRO also? Never done that before, woudl have to take a bit of a guess as to which year she was adopted - my hunch would be 1929, after HJ Beazley's first wife had died, but before he'd married his second one (Ellen).

Mildred Perkins DoB 28 Aug 1918 is on 1939 register with husband etc

Mildred's death has already been posted - but here's the full GRO version with all middle names:

PERKINS, MILDRED WILSON BEAZLEY 1917
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/1996 in ISLE OF WIGHT (5561A) Reg A75A Entry Number 255

Source
Name: Nora Gladys Wilson-----295 Westend Lane.
Marriage Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1898
Marriage Date: 14 Jun 1924
Marriage Place: Emmanuel, Hampstead, Camden, England
Father:
George William Wilson
Spouse:
Edwin Perkins.

Noras father is George William Wilson a ---Licenced Victualler.

Matches census information posted on Pg 1.

Hi all,

OK thanks everybody.

So, my interest here is that Herbert John Beazley, who I believe adopted Mildred (though I have not seen an adoption certificate and would v much like to) is my grandfather. He lived in Godshill, IoW so believe we are speaking about the same person (Janice mentions Godshill earlier).

Herbert John's first wife, Ada Marian, died 28.02.1929 and he married his second wife, Ellen Mary on the 2nd quarter of 1930 (I have the date somewhere...).

My dad recollected that Mildred had been adopted late 1920s, so presumably shortly before, or just after, his wife Ada died.

However I have no explanation why he adopted Mildred (beyond some perhaps obvious possibilites!), particularly at this time in his life; his first children were much older by this stage, and he had not remarried. I don't have anything to confirm any connection (of any sort!) between Nora and my grandad. The suggestion in the thread above that the birth certificate mentioned a Beazley got me to check, but it doesn't mention a Beazley, so beyond a DNA test, that feels like a closed door?

If born in 1898, Nora would have been 20 ish, and single, when Mildred was born. She would have been concieved around November 1917. HJB would have been aged 36.

What happened to kids born to single mums in those days? Why would a 47-ish-year old railway worker, with four grown up children, from the Isle of Wight adopt an eleven-ish year old girl from London?

One other odd thing; Kay's post above suggests Nora married a Perkins, after Mildred was born, but before she had been adopted. But I have it that Mildred ALSO married a Perkins, William A Perkins. Coincidence? If not, what?

Edwin and Nora G Perkins are together in 1939

Her DoB is given as 27 Oct 1898

Formalised adoption came into force in 1927

Adoption certs do not show any info about the child’s origins - neither the birth name nor natural parents’ names

Mildred’s husband is recorded as Alfred W on 1939 register. DoB 19 May 1914

His death is as `William Alfred’

Research his birth etc to determine whether there is any connection, or merely coincidence

Connection seems extremely unlikely. WAP was born in the Isle of Wight. Perkins isn’t an uncommon surname

Thanks ErikaH.

One more thing. Don't know if this counts. But if you look at the old London maps on NLS, Woodford Road, Watford, is really just across the railway tracks from the London Orphan Asylum.

The birth address is backin stockwell, central London, Belgrave Terrace was a very short terrace of houses, since demolished, coming off of what is now Stockwell Park Walk.