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Also, since most of the men in our family use their middle name as their 'known as' I think it might be worth me looking for ?first name? Thomas Singleton.

This stuff really gets you thinking doesn't it? Still having fun tho'

That would fit with Emma number 2 coming along, In the 1871 census I found another daughter, Elizabeth. Born 1863.

It seems this branch of the family all aimed to have 10 kids!

Death of Emma number one ?


Name: Emma Burstow
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1868
Age at Death: 41
Registration District: Martley
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 141

Hi Wendy

Thomas and Emma 1 had more than 3 children. Here is the 1861 in which they have 5. I am assuming that Jane in the census is Selina Jane.


1861 England Census about Thomas Burston
Name: Thomas Burston
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Burston
Gender: Male
Where born: Leigh, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Leigh
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Martley
Sub-registration District: Leigh
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 180
Piece: 2088
Folio: 48
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Burston 35
Emma Burston 34
Mary Ann Burston 12
George Burston 10
Jane Burston 8
Emma Burston 5
Samuel Burston 2

I do tend to think that Mr Singleton came along before her marriage to William but like you I looked for him on the 1871 and couldn't find anyone of that name in the right area. I wonder what made Charles decide to change his name to one of a person he didn't know, or maybe he did meet him in later life. All speculation on my part

I found that earlier too - very sad but a good connection.

I like to think that Selina met her man when she worked at the Water Cure, Malvern but I can't find any mention of Singleton there at all. I went through all of the residents names that I could find and matched to census but... nothing. Maybe she met him in the pub and he made up a nice name?

Baby Joseph William died in 1883. West Bromich covers Wednesbury where they were in 1881



Surname Given Name Age District Volume Page
Deaths Dec 1883
Hastilow Joseph William 2 W Bromwich 6b 521

MarieCeleste - the date is from family 'knowledge' that she was registered as Jane Burston at her death (Born Selina Jane Burston and the age on the record stacks up). I need to order the cert to confirm but relatives are pretty certain. Best to be sure tho'

(Love your avatar - very glam!)

Also - I found both records for old Charlie too but no-one knows why there are two records. I might have to order those certs as well...

Tenerife Sun - I know! I find that the easier people are to prove, the less interested I am. Selina is my new obsession... :-S

MC do you think this is the one Wendy meant as she said that she thought Selina used her middle name. I don't know why she would use Burston though as she did marry William Hastilow. The age and place are right.


Deaths Sep 1888 (>99%)
Burston Jane 36 Martley 6c 113

I'm struggling to find the 1888 death for Selina that Wendy mentions, not sure if it was as Singleton or Hastilow?

(Just like to tidy up the loose ends in my mind)

Thank you MC for that clarification on the marriage.

I'm quite hooked on trying to find a Singleton/Selinas connection now

Hi Wendy, did Charles revert to his birth surname - or is this just a coincidence?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Charles T Burston
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Age at Death: 80
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 365

ADDED:

I guess his death was registered in both names

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Charles T Singleton
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Age at Death: 80
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 365

Tenerife Sun (love your user name!), I wondered whether Chas found out his real fathers name before he got married and just used it on the certificate to present a good impression! Especially since he was living at the same address as Caroline/Kate/Catherine or whatever her name should be!!

Beatrice is my Granny and her sisters are Olive, Ethel and Rachel, so that's all perfectly correct. Beattie married John Percival Hancocks.

Chas's birth and marriage certificates were found together a while ago which is what got me started on this - particularly since he had two names so I am sure I have the right Chas. Wish I could go back in time and speak to them! I don't have anything else on Singleton apart from the fact that the girls all formally had that name.

I'm beginning to think that our Selina was bit 'modern' for her time LOL

Selina married William Hastilow (who then later married Phebe Mary Cherry) and had 3 children (2 survived) and I am trying to find the descendants of Robert (died 1980) in Canada - let's see what they can remember...


Thanks again for your help - you really are very good at this :)

Possible other children of Chas and Kate. Stourbridge registration district covers Kingswinford. I was hoping for a daughter called Selina as I'm still not sure we are on the right track.

How are you sure that the marriage cert you have for Charles Singleton is definitely the same person as your Charles Burstone?

name First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Singleton Charles D T Turner Stourbridge 6c 305
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Singleton Ethel Turner Stourbridge 6c 108
Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Singleton Olive Turner Stourbridge 6c 116

Beatrice Catherine Singleton, daughter of Carles and catherine born 1907 married in 1939

Beatrice C Singleton
Spouse Surname: Hancocks
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Sandwell
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 3159
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Hi Tenerife Sun - that is the right marriage details.

Hi Christine, that would be Emma number 1 - I believe. Some years later, she disappeared (divorce/death??) and he marries Emma Jones, or Emma number 2 as I refer to her!

Wendy

I also wonder if there really was a Thomas Singleton as on the marriage cert as the deceased father of Charles. Perhaps it was his fathers real name. Have you got anything else, Wendy, on Singleton.

Is this the marriage of Charles please

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
Holmes Mary Elizabeth King's N. 6c 873
>>>>Singleton Charles King's N 6c 873
>>>>Turner Catherine King's N. 6c 873
Walford Frederick James King's N. 6c 873

Whoa guys! I looked up this marriage yesterday and the Thomas on here was only 23 years old.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1847
BURSTON Thomas Martley 18 595
PULLIN Emma Martley 18 595

Name: Thomas Burston
Birth Date: 1824
Birthplace:
Age: 23
Spouse's Name: Emma Pullin
Spouse's Birth Date: 1826
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 30 Oct 1847
Event Place: Malvern Link,Worcester,England
Father's Name: Thomas Burston
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Pullin
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M14777-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 994252
Reference ID:

Brilliant help – thank you all.
This is where I have got to:

My Great Great Great Grandfather, Tom Burston married Emma Pullen in 1847. Three children – Maria 1849, George 1851 and Selina 1853.

Emma disappeared (I can’t find any marriage or death records yet) so he married Emma Jones in 1870. One child – George in 1874 (I wonder what happened to the first George? – I think he died in 1895 in Kings Norton, Birmingham)

It makes sense that my Great Grandfather Charles is living with his Grandfather and Step-Grandmother as his mother Selina seems to have gone missing too! I think that Selina used her middle name of Jane (death record 1888)

Thomas died in 1889 leaving Emma Jones with George and Charles. They appear in the 1891 census.

Between 1891 and 1901, Charles has left home, moved to Birmingham and changed his name to Singleton, then married Caroline (I know that this bit is accurate and she was also known as Kate and Catherine. Since she was illiterate I suppose she didn’t care how it was spelt and so was happy to be ‘Kate’). The marriage certificate (1904) states Thomas Singleton as Charles' father (deceased)


Thanks again all for getting me back on track, I am off to order some certificates now to see if can find any more clues…