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Christine, I think (hope!) the baptisms above match those birth records -

Charles Thomas baptised 08 March 1874 - mother Selina Jane Burston

George Thomas baptised 10 February 1874 - parents Tom and Emma Burston.

MC

Thought it was too easy!

I think that maybe George Thomas is Selinas brother and Charles Thomas is her son and being brought up by her parents, Charles Thomas's grand parents

And I think her father Tom must have had two wives called Emma ......

Good thinking MC

Marriage for 1847


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
BURSTON Thomas Martley 18 595
PULLIN Emma Martley 18 595

Possibly the second marriage:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1870
Burston Thomas Martley 6c 453 <
JONES Emma Martley 6c 453 ?
ROOFE Harriet Martley 6c 453
Stallard William Martley 6c 453

I agree but haven't found a death yet for Emma number one

You guys are amazing! And your research skills are awesome!!

I need to have a slower read through your answers and confirm what I know, then gather what fits. Hope you don't mind waiting for me to get my head round this!

Thank you so much for your help. :-)

You're very welcome Wendy. Would much rather you took the time to digest what has been found, some of which you may already have.

However, could you confirm where you have got Selina Jane as surname Singleton?

Hi, Charles' marriage certificate (1904) states father name as Thomas Singleton (deceased) and it was always assumed that Selina and Thomas married - clearly this isn't the case which is where I got confused I think. And I can't find any marriage record anyway. :-(

Brilliant help – thank you all.
This is where I have got to:

My Great Great Great Grandfather, Tom Burston married Emma Pullen in 1847. Three children – Maria 1849, George 1851 and Selina 1853.

Emma disappeared (I can’t find any marriage or death records yet) so he married Emma Jones in 1870. One child – George in 1874 (I wonder what happened to the first George? – I think he died in 1895 in Kings Norton, Birmingham)

It makes sense that my Great Grandfather Charles is living with his Grandfather and Step-Grandmother as his mother Selina seems to have gone missing too! I think that Selina used her middle name of Jane (death record 1888)

Thomas died in 1889 leaving Emma Jones with George and Charles. They appear in the 1891 census.

Between 1891 and 1901, Charles has left home, moved to Birmingham and changed his name to Singleton, then married Caroline (I know that this bit is accurate and she was also known as Kate and Catherine. Since she was illiterate I suppose she didn’t care how it was spelt and so was happy to be ‘Kate’). The marriage certificate (1904) states Thomas Singleton as Charles' father (deceased)


Thanks again all for getting me back on track, I am off to order some certificates now to see if can find any more clues…

Whoa guys! I looked up this marriage yesterday and the Thomas on here was only 23 years old.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1847
BURSTON Thomas Martley 18 595
PULLIN Emma Martley 18 595

Name: Thomas Burston
Birth Date: 1824
Birthplace:
Age: 23
Spouse's Name: Emma Pullin
Spouse's Birth Date: 1826
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 30 Oct 1847
Event Place: Malvern Link,Worcester,England
Father's Name: Thomas Burston
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Pullin
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M14777-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 994252
Reference ID:

Is this the marriage of Charles please

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
Holmes Mary Elizabeth King's N. 6c 873
>>>>Singleton Charles King's N 6c 873
>>>>Turner Catherine King's N. 6c 873
Walford Frederick James King's N. 6c 873

I also wonder if there really was a Thomas Singleton as on the marriage cert as the deceased father of Charles. Perhaps it was his fathers real name. Have you got anything else, Wendy, on Singleton.

Hi Tenerife Sun - that is the right marriage details.

Hi Christine, that would be Emma number 1 - I believe. Some years later, she disappeared (divorce/death??) and he marries Emma Jones, or Emma number 2 as I refer to her!

Wendy

Beatrice Catherine Singleton, daughter of Carles and catherine born 1907 married in 1939

Beatrice C Singleton
Spouse Surname: Hancocks
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Sandwell
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 3159
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Possible other children of Chas and Kate. Stourbridge registration district covers Kingswinford. I was hoping for a daughter called Selina as I'm still not sure we are on the right track.

How are you sure that the marriage cert you have for Charles Singleton is definitely the same person as your Charles Burstone?

name First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Singleton Charles D T Turner Stourbridge 6c 305
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Singleton Ethel Turner Stourbridge 6c 108
Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Singleton Olive Turner Stourbridge 6c 116

Tenerife Sun (love your user name!), I wondered whether Chas found out his real fathers name before he got married and just used it on the certificate to present a good impression! Especially since he was living at the same address as Caroline/Kate/Catherine or whatever her name should be!!

Beatrice is my Granny and her sisters are Olive, Ethel and Rachel, so that's all perfectly correct. Beattie married John Percival Hancocks.

Chas's birth and marriage certificates were found together a while ago which is what got me started on this - particularly since he had two names so I am sure I have the right Chas. Wish I could go back in time and speak to them! I don't have anything else on Singleton apart from the fact that the girls all formally had that name.

I'm beginning to think that our Selina was bit 'modern' for her time LOL

Selina married William Hastilow (who then later married Phebe Mary Cherry) and had 3 children (2 survived) and I am trying to find the descendants of Robert (died 1980) in Canada - let's see what they can remember...


Thanks again for your help - you really are very good at this :)

Hi Wendy, did Charles revert to his birth surname - or is this just a coincidence?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Charles T Burston
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Age at Death: 80
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 365

ADDED:

I guess his death was registered in both names

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Charles T Singleton
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Age at Death: 80
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 365

Thank you MC for that clarification on the marriage.

I'm quite hooked on trying to find a Singleton/Selinas connection now